jbowman Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Redskins football is about being the physically dominant team in the game. Win or lose. Redskins football is where the other team goes home with lots of new bruises. Smashmouth football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 Gibbs will not reach the NFC Champ. game this year with this team, maybe next year with a few changes but I say that every year. As for the definition of Redskins football it's very easy, Redskins football is about winning and winning constantly, at least to me it is. I remember winning games pretty, ugly, blowouts, and last second games but we always won 10+ games and were hell in the playoffs. We won running, passing, with tough D it didn't matter because we won constantly. Exactly what I was getting at and that's exctly my feeling of what Redskins Football is. We won every which way possible but dammit, you didn't want to play us, you knew you'd come out bruised and more likely than not, we would win. What I see now couldn't be further from that and after 3 and a half years of hoping we'll get there, I'm having a real hard time believing anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 Gibbs will not reach the NFC Champ. game this year with this team, maybe next year with a few changes but I say that every year. As for the definition of Redskins football it's very easy, Redskins football is about winning and winning constantly, at least to me it is. I remember winning games pretty, ugly, blowouts, and last second games but we always won 10+ games and were hell in the playoffs. We won running, passing, with tough D it didn't matter because we won constantly. Exactly what I was getting at and that's exctly my feeling of what Redskins Football is. We won every which way possible but dammit, you didn't want to play us, you knew you'd come out bruised and more likely than not, we would win. What I see now couldn't be further from that and after 3 and a half years of hoping we'll get there, I'm having a real hard time believing anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabee1973 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Every time i hear of redskins football nowadys all i can think of is run run 3rd and 10 pass for 2 yards and punt. Now there my friends is classic down and dirty redskins football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabee1973 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Every time i hear of redskins football nowadys all i can think of is run run 3rd and 10 pass for 2 yards and punt. Now there my friends is classic down and dirty redskins football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom44 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 In the past it has been easy to define Physical, punishing line of scrimmage dominance on both sides Intelligent play calling, innovative offensive attack Controlled agression on defense, Respectful mean streak toward opponents I keep the image of the "88" team in mind for the above.:helmet: Its up to the 2007 skins to define all this for themselves in the wake of getting bent over this past week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom44 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 In the past it has been easy to define Physical, punishing line of scrimmage dominance on both sides Intelligent play calling, innovative offensive attack Controlled agression on defense, Respectful mean streak toward opponents I keep the image of the "88" team in mind for the above.:helmet: Its up to the 2007 skins to define all this for themselves in the wake of getting bent over this past week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Why's that? Actually, the question regarding Redskins Football is great, but the one about this team going to the NFC Championship under Gibbs......well, I'm pretty sure his approval rating is WAY down right now. I'm surprised that the results are pretty even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Why's that? Actually, the question regarding Redskins Football is great, but the one about this team going to the NFC Championship under Gibbs......well, I'm pretty sure his approval rating is WAY down right now. I'm surprised that the results are pretty even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorcoreskin Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Redskins football refers to conservative offensive philosophy, and you don't wan't to know what kind of feeling they evoke in me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorcoreskin Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Redskins football refers to conservative offensive philosophy, and you don't wan't to know what kind of feeling they evoke in me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#21Taylor4Ever Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Power running game to set up the PA passing. End of story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#21Taylor4Ever Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Power running game to set up the PA passing. End of story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 Actually, the question regarding Redskins Football is great, but the one about this team going to the NFC Championship under Gibbs......well, I'm pretty sure his approval rating is WAY down right now.I'm surprised that the results are pretty even. I'm kind of surprised, too. The reason I asked was because for me, unless there's a dramatic change in the way things are done and the attitude displayed through the play calling and risk taking, it's not even a possibility. I finally came to that unwanted conclusion after last week because if there was ever a game to pull out the stops, try everything and go for broke it was last week's game. And we did the opposite. At this point in the 4th year of Gibbs II, that leads me to believe that the philosophical shift is not going to happen and that Gibbs is completely set in his ways. I just don't know how else to explain why this looks like the Mark Brunell circa 2004 offense. Redskins football refers to conservative offensive philosophy, and you don't wan't to know what kind of feeling they evoke in me lol. :laugh: Read what Loyal2 wrote and my response. I think the characterization you (and many others) hold of a conservative offensive philosophy and running the ball at all costs are misguided. Gibbs 1 would call fake punts, surprise onside kicks, throw when everyone expected the run and run when everyone expected the pass. He was unpredictable and adapted to the players he had and the team he was playing. That's the key difference for me. I don't see the adaption to his team or the opposing team. It feels like we go in with the same offensive gameplan week in, week out, year in, year out.....no matter the players we put out there and no matter the strengths and weaknesses of the defense and team we're playing. That fact, and the fact that it was NEVER that way the first go round are what have left me with little hope for any real success this time around. And btw, for the record, the NFC champ game question for me is something of a barometer for success. I can't possibly consider Gibbs II a success if after 4 (or 5) years we haven't won one NFC East Title or reached 1 NFC Championship Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 Actually, the question regarding Redskins Football is great, but the one about this team going to the NFC Championship under Gibbs......well, I'm pretty sure his approval rating is WAY down right now.I'm surprised that the results are pretty even. I'm kind of surprised, too. The reason I asked was because for me, unless there's a dramatic change in the way things are done and the attitude displayed through the play calling and risk taking, it's not even a possibility. I finally came to that unwanted conclusion after last week because if there was ever a game to pull out the stops, try everything and go for broke it was last week's game. And we did the opposite. At this point in the 4th year of Gibbs II, that leads me to believe that the philosophical shift is not going to happen and that Gibbs is completely set in his ways. I just don't know how else to explain why this looks like the Mark Brunell circa 2004 offense. Redskins football refers to conservative offensive philosophy, and you don't wan't to know what kind of feeling they evoke in me lol. :laugh: Read what Loyal2 wrote and my response. I think the characterization you (and many others) hold of a conservative offensive philosophy and running the ball at all costs are misguided. Gibbs 1 would call fake punts, surprise onside kicks, throw when everyone expected the run and run when everyone expected the pass. He was unpredictable and adapted to the players he had and the team he was playing. That's the key difference for me. I don't see the adaption to his team or the opposing team. It feels like we go in with the same offensive gameplan week in, week out, year in, year out.....no matter the players we put out there and no matter the strengths and weaknesses of the defense and team we're playing. That fact, and the fact that it was NEVER that way the first go round are what have left me with little hope for any real success this time around. And btw, for the record, the NFC champ game question for me is something of a barometer for success. I can't possibly consider Gibbs II a success if after 4 (or 5) years we haven't won one NFC East Title or reached 1 NFC Championship Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyburd Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Redskin football is no longer. It was the 80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyburd Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Redskin football is no longer. It was the 80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gart Monk Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Redskin football is no longer. It was the 80s yes, a term for the Reagan years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gart Monk Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Redskin football is no longer. It was the 80s yes, a term for the Reagan years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Post this poll each week. I'd love to see how it bounces from week to week. "Redskins" football, to me, just means tough football, and strategically you know how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Post this poll each week. I'd love to see how it bounces from week to week. "Redskins" football, to me, just means tough football, and strategically you know how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmeworry Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Redskins football means simply beating up your opponent and wearing them down. It could be from a power running game but not necessarily. It means that you have a roster of players that realize the team comes first and you accept whatever role you have in it. It means being tough and smart. Gibbs used to be able to adapt to his talent. He came in as a disciple of Air Coryell but when he realized he didn't have the personnel to make that work he switched to the punishing ground game. He wouldn't hesitate to improvise if he thought that would help the team. A classic example was when he benched George Rogers in the Super Bowl and instead started Timmy Smith. Sadly those days are just a memory. I'm still hopeful of an NFC title game though if for no other reason than the NFC is pretty mediocre at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatmeworry Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Redskins football means simply beating up your opponent and wearing them down. It could be from a power running game but not necessarily. It means that you have a roster of players that realize the team comes first and you accept whatever role you have in it. It means being tough and smart. Gibbs used to be able to adapt to his talent. He came in as a disciple of Air Coryell but when he realized he didn't have the personnel to make that work he switched to the punishing ground game. He wouldn't hesitate to improvise if he thought that would help the team. A classic example was when he benched George Rogers in the Super Bowl and instead started Timmy Smith. Sadly those days are just a memory. I'm still hopeful of an NFC title game though if for no other reason than the NFC is pretty mediocre at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins4ever Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Only if he takes the offense back and starts calling his own plays again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins4ever Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Only if he takes the offense back and starts calling his own plays again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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