clubisyohankovic Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Giants Holder Could Not Have Spiked Ball -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Associated Press Originally published January 6, 2003, 12:27 PM EST NEW YORK -- Giants holder Matt Allen could not have spiked the botched snap on the final play of New York's loss to the San Francisco 49ers. It's against the rules. Mike Pereira, the NFL supervisor of officials, confirmed Monday that Allen would not have been allowed to immediately spike the ball because it was a long snap. The only time a player can spike the ball is when he takes the snap from under the center. With six seconds left Sunday and the Giants trailing 39-38, Matt Bryant lined up to try a potential game-winning 41-yard field goal. The snap from newly signed Trey Junkin was in the dirt. Allen fumbled the ball, then made a desperation pass downfield to what turned out to be an ineligible receiver, guard Rich Seubert. Fox commentator Cris Collinsworth said at the time that since it was third down, Allen could have spiked the ball, giving the Giants another chance at a kick. Afterward, on the Fox postgame show, other commentators agreed. Pereira said the only other option would have been to throw to an eligible receiver. ============================================= I don't understand this.... To say that the holder "could not have spiked the ball...." The Giants would have been charged with a penalty, sure. But would it have been 5 yards, 10 yards?? Or is it one of those things where the team is charged 5 yards and 10 seconds off of the clock?? This story did not explain it particularly well. Can anyone clarify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin56 Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 On an offensive penalty, within the last two minutes (I think) of the ball game the penalty is the yardage, loss of down what ever it may be, PLUS a 10 second run off of the clock. The kick came at :06 seconds, therefore a 10 second run off would have ended the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Offensive fouls at the end of the game run time off the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubisyohankovic Posted January 6, 2003 Author Share Posted January 6, 2003 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 When the clock is active, which in this case it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Allen was outside of the tackle box with three seconds left. He could have thrown the ball anywhere he liked then as long as it got beyond the line of scrimmage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin56 Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 But even if he threw the ball away, they still would have been penalized for an ineligible man down field. There still would have been the run off of time and game called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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