ouvan59 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I was perusing the internet last night and came across the 1980s All-Decade team. Several things popped out at me. http://www.nfl.com/history/legends/1980s QB Joe Montana Dan Fouts Boomer Esiason RB Walter Payton Eric Dickerson John Riggins Roger Craig WR Jerry Rice Steve Largent Art Monk James Lofton TE Ozzie Newsome Kellen Winslow T Anthony Munoz Joe Jacoby Gary Zimmerman Jimbo Covert G Bill Fralic John Hannah Russ Grimm Mike Munchak C Mike Webster Dwight Stephenson DE Reggie White Howie Long Lee Roy Selmon Bruce Smith DT Randy White Dan Hampton Keith Millard Dave Butz LB Ted Hendricks Mike Singletary Lawrence Taylor Andre Tippett John Anderson Carl Banks CB Mike Haynes Mel Blount Frank Minnifield Lester Hayes S Ronnie Lott Kenny Easley Deron Cherry Joey Browner Nolan Cromwell P Sean Landeta Reggie Roby K Morten Andersen Gary Anderson Eddie Murray PR Billy Johnson John Taylor KR Mike Nelms Rick Upchurch Coach Bill Walsh Chuck Noll 1. Two players on the team were active last year (Sean Landeta, Morten Andersen). Even though they are only kickers that's still impressive. 2. Six Redskins on the team but only one in the HOF. There are 46 position players and 25 of those are currently in the HOF. Two of the 19 that are not in the HOF are not eligible (Jerry Rice, Bruce Smith) but are surefire bets to be first ballots. So 65% of the non-Redskin All-Decade teamers are in the HOF. Only 16% of the Redskins are in the HOF. 3. Looking at the team that was voted by the HOF committee I don't really have any issue with the members with one notable exception. Chuck Noll. How the heck did he make it ahead of Joe Gibbs? Here are their respective records in the decade: Chuck Noll - 77-75 (2-4 playoff record) Joe Gibbs - 91-45 (11-3 playoff record, 2-1 SBs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 The reason the Redskins are in the HOF is b/c they didn't play on teams that won enough superbowls. HUH??? That's the best I could come up with to defend the idiocy that is the HOF/SI BTW, how in the hell is Darrell Green not on the list of CB's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightbird Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 This reads more like a 1975 to 1985 list, as oppsed to an all 80s team. Chuck Noll??? Mel Blount??? And Frank Minnifield over Darrell Green??? I'm sorry, but even if you HATE the Skins, you have to acknowledge that as far as corners go, DG had some of the real signature plays of the 80s while going to the pro-bowl repeatedly. Lame-ass list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I would say leaving Darrell Green off an all-decade team for the 80's is like leaving Emmitt Smith off an all-decade team for the 90's. You would have to suffer some kind of mental illness. Also, Mark Mosely may not have been the best kicker in the 80's but doesn't being the only kicker to win an MVP at least give him honorable mention or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I would also like to point this out: Dexter Manley in the 80's (started logging sacks in 1982) 1982: 9 games, 6.5 sacks, 1 INT 1983: 16 games, 11 sacks, 1 INT 1984: 15 games, 13.5 sacks 1985: 16 games, 15 sacks 1986: 16 games, 18.5 sacks 1987: 11 games, 8.5 sacks 1988: 16 games, 9 sacks 1989: 10 games, 9 sacks END OF DECADE Total: 109 games, 91 sacks, 2 INT's Lee Roy Selmon in the 80's 1982: 9 games, 4 sacks 1983: 14 games, 11 sacks 1984: 16 games, 8 sacks RETIRED Total: 39 games, 23 sacks Okay Lee Roy Selmon was a very good player...in the 70's. There were better defensive ends in the 80's to choose from and uhh...yeah... Joe Gibbs, Bill Parcells, Tom Landry, Dan Reeves, Marty Schottenheimer, Don Shula and Mike Ditka should have all made that list before Chuck freaking Noll. He had all of his success in the 70's. You wanna make him the coach of the decade in the 70's thats fine, but he barely won a couple of playoff games in the 80's much less any championships like Gibbs, Parcells and Ditka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I just looked it up, and the guy did put DG on the list of corners for the all 90's team... seems wrong to me, but he did recognize Green in some way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRomoProBowl Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I just looked it up, and the guy did put DG on the list of corners for the all 90's team... seems wrong to me, but he did recognize Green in some way He should be on both teams.......including D. sanders, DG is the best CB in the games history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paloosa Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 What you missed is something that is really worth mentioning. I followed the link and it went to NFL.com where the list is. That isn't the thing that makes it a big deal. What makes it very interesting and surprising is who generated the list. It wasn't one person but a committee. The HOF committee. How can the same committee that doesn't have all these people as top players in that decade not have them in the HOF? They vote Monk on the All-Decade Team in the 1980's but not the HOF? How does that happen? Can someone answer this question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Just for reference: Chuck Noll in the 1980's: 1980: 9-7, No playoffs 1981: 8-8, No playoffs 1982: 6-2, 0-1 playoffs 1983: 10-6, 0-1 playoffs 1984: 9-7, 1-1 playoffs 1985: 7-9, No playoffs 1986: 6-10, No playoffs 1987: 8-7, No playoffs 1988: 5-11, No playoffs 1989: 9-7, 1-1 playoffs Total: 77 wins, 74 losses, 2-4 playoffs, no championships. Joe Gibbs in the 1980's: 1981: 8-8, No playoffs 1982: 8-1, 4-0 playoffs, Superbowl Champions 1983: 14-2, 2-1 playoffs 1984: 11-5, 0-1 playoffs 1985: 10-6, No playoffs 1986: 12-4, 2-1 playoffs 1987: 11-4, 3-0 playoffs, Superbowl Champions 1988: 7-9 No playoffs 1989: 10-6 No playoffs Total: 91 wins, 45 losses, 11-3 playoffs, 2 Superbowl championships Bill Parcells in the 1980's: 1983: 3-12-1, No playoffs 1984: 9-7, 1-1 playoffs 1985: 10-6, 1-1 playoffs 1986: 14-2, 3-0 playoffs, Superbowl Champions 1987: 6-9, No playoffs 1988: 10-6, No playoffs 1989: 12-4, 0-1 playoffs Total: 64 wins, 46 losses, 5-3 playoffs, 1 Superbowl championship Mike Ditka in the 1980's: 1982: 3-6, No playoffs 1983: 8-8, No playoffs 1984: 10-6, 1-1 playoffs 1985: 15-1, 3-0 playoffs, Superbowl Champions 1986: 14-2, 0-1 playoffs 1987: 11-4, 0-1 playoffs 1988: 12-4, 1-1 playoffs 1989: 6-10, No playoffs Total: 79 wins, 41 losses, 5-4 playoffs, 1 Superbowl championship Need I say more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 What you missed is something that is really worth mentioning. I followed the link and it went to NFL.com where the list is. That isn't the thing that makes it a big deal. What makes it very interesting and surprising is who generated the list. It wasn't one person but a committee. The HOF committee. How can the same committee that doesn't have all these people as top players in that decade not have them in the HOF? They vote Monk on the All-Decade Team in the 1980's but not the HOF? How does that happen? Can someone answer this question? Because Peter King was just a Giants' beat writer at the time and not an influencial member of the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 The QB list is messed up also... Dan Fouts and Boomer Esaison? Fouts was the first big passer and yes Boomer Esaison was a great QB as well...but hmm...who else could be missing? The top player in each category will be highlighted in green, 2nd best in yellow, worst in red. 2x yellow= tie Dan Fouts' totals for the 1980's: 2156/3599 (60%) 28,301 yards, 172 touchdowns, 141 interceptions Boomer Esaison's totals for the 1980's: 1296/2285 (56%) 18,350 yards, 126 touchdowns, 76 interceptions Dan Marino's totals for the 1980's: 2174/3650 (60%) 27,853 yards, 220 touchdowns, 125 interceptions Hmm... Maybe you are thinking: "Perhaps Dan Marino was in the all 90's team, The-Rock is making a bad point" well think of this: Dan Marino threw more, and for more yards in the 1990's total, however out of his 420 touchdowns in his career, 220 were thrown in a 7 year span in the 1980's. He set the yardage record with his 5,000 yard 1984 season. He accomplished the most he ever would in the 1980's. He should have been all decade then instead of Esaison and probably instead of Fouts, as good as he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 No Darrell Green! Blasphemy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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