jivelikenice Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Ok, Instead of going over the numerous players who have been drafted around pick 6 and pick 31 and then debating on what we’re giving up, I went over the past 6 draft and looked who exactly went # 6, and who went #31…..You never know what will happen on any given draft BUT this is 6 years worth of picks and should at least give an idea of what has been happening with these selections and what we can expect: 2001: • 6th pick- Richard Seymour (All Pro) • 31st pick- Todd Heap (All Pro) Comments- Advantage 6th pick but Heap is a great player too 2002: • 6th Pick- Ryan Simms • 31st pick- Robert Thomas Comments- Both haven’t amounted to much in the league; Advantage Neither 2003: • 6th Pick- Jonathan Sullivan • 31st pick- Nnamdi Asomugha Comments- Sullivan was cut and was a backup in New England/ Asomugha was a probowl corner last year; Advantage 31st overall 2004: • 6th Pick- Kellen Winslow • 31st pick- Rashaun Woods Comments- Injuries aside this is advantage 6th pick bigtime; Woods has been a bust 2002: • 6th Pick- Pac Man Jones • 31st pick- Mike Patterson Comments- Legal issues aside, both have been good players; Advantage slightly towards the 6th pick 2002: • 6th Pick- Vernon Davis • 31st pick- Kelly Jennings Comments- Too early to tell. Both should be solid players Only in one case was the 6th pick far superior to the player drafted at #31. To negate that there was one year where the 31st pick has clearly outperformed the 6th pick….In addition to #31, we would add Lance Briggs. I think history shows that on an average year the trade makes more sense…… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsngibbs4life Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 art made a post JUST like this yesterday...sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I'm getting a sense of deja vu here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 art made a post JUST like this yesterday...sorry I didnt see it, Great post JiveLikeNice. LETZ GO HOYAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Ok,Instead of going over the numerous players who have been drafted around pick 6 and pick 31 and then debating on what we’re giving up, I went over the past 6 draft and looked who exactly went # 6, and who went #31…..You never know what will happen on any given draft BUT this is 6 years worth of picks and should at least give an idea of what has been happening with these selections and what we can expect: 2001: • 6th pick- Richard Seymour (All Pro) • 31st pick- Todd Heap (All Pro) Comments- Advantage 6th pick but Heap is a great player too 2002: • 6th Pick- Ryan Simms • 31st pick- Robert Thomas Comments- Both haven’t amounted to much in the league; Advantage Neither 2003: • 6th Pick- Jonathan Sullivan • 31st pick- Nnamdi Asomugha Comments- Sullivan was cut and was a backup in New England/ Asomugha was a probowl corner last year; Advantage 31st overall 2004: • 6th Pick- Kellen Winslow • 31st pick- Rashaun Woods Comments- Injuries aside this is advantage 6th pick bigtime; Woods has been a bust 2002: • 6th Pick- Pac Man Jones • 31st pick- Mike Patterson Comments- Legal issues aside, both have been good players; Advantage slightly towards the 6th pick 2002: • 6th Pick- Vernon Davis • 31st pick- Kelly Jennings Comments- Too early to tell. Both should be solid players Only in one case was the 6th pick far superior to the player drafted at #31. To negate that there was one year where the 31st pick has clearly outperformed the 6th pick….In addition to #31, we would add Lance Briggs. I think history shows that on an average year the trade makes more sense…… great post! i don't think it is a bad trade...actually a really good one....I'd try to throw rocky in there for a secound round pick though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 Missed Art's post will all the threads popping up. I just think it would be tough based on that to not choose Briggs and the players drafted at #31 over the players drafted at #6..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayer15 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I don't believe in extrapolating results like this. There are so many issues to consider. For instance, couldn't you argue that the best teams (i.e. the ones the draft at #31) are the best teams for a reason, and the bad teams (i.e. those drafting at #6) are bad for a reason? Namely, good teams like the Pats know how to scout and pick players, and bad teams don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 I hear what you're saying but wouldn't you consider the Raiders a badly run team and look what they did at #31...They found an pro bowl caliber corner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I don't believe in extrapolating results like this. There are so many issues to consider. For instance, couldn't you argue that the best teams (i.e. the ones the draft at #31) are the best teams for a reason, and the bad teams (i.e. those drafting at #6) are bad for a reason? Namely, good teams like the Pats know how to scout and pick players, and bad teams don't. Now that is a good point! :applause: It is not really apples to apples is it? :helmet: The Rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 But it gives a good idea of what to expect. I understand the point about the qulaity of organizations but wouldn't you think the Chiefs are a good organization?? Well they had what I would call a bust in Ryan Simms. And again look at the Raiders....They get criticized almost as much as us and have made some very questionable decisions but they had a great pick at #31..... Obvious not an exact science and the draft as a whole in any league isn't but I thought it was interesting to takle a step back and get an idea of what we're actually getting for what we've been giving up and was surpised at what I saw..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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