RiggoReincarnated Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Where has our use of power and ball control gone? Why don't we pound the ball down the heart of the defense anymore? I mean with our offensive line, the holes in the interior should be huge. That's what Bugel preaches and that's what the Hogs achieve. So why not call more power running plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmuss1 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 The beauty of our power game was then opening up a 60 yard strike to Monk or Clark. We have the capability to do both now, but instead we throw 3 and 4 yard routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Looney Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 The NFL has changed a lot since those days. Defensive linemen are a lot bigger now, it's not quite so easy to just blow them off the line, and the linemen and linebackers are much quicker now and they can more quickly attack the point on the countertrey. I'm not saying it would never work, but we can't just rely on it like we used to back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPM285181 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 The NFL has changed a lot since those days. Defensive linemen are a lot bigger now, it's not quite so easy to just blow them off the line, and the linemen and linebackers are much quicker now and they can more quickly attack the point on the countertrey. I'm not saying it would never work, but we can't just rely on it like we used to back in the day. Hey guess what?? Offensive lineman didnt just freeze in the early 90's. They also became larger and quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hkHog Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I want to see Duckett pound the ball at Dallas this week to wear down that D. At least 15 touches for him and 20 for Portis. Let's just crush these guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 You know, it's funny to see this thread because I LOVE power-running football, while it seems like everyone else wants to see LOTS of passing. I'll take a boring running game over an aerial show if it means more wins. Yeah, we should have run the ball more Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyTeeth Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 We have to prove that we can get the ball into all areas of the field (short, middle, and deep) before a slow-developing play like counter-trey will work. Right now, teams play us with seven or eight men close to the line either to stuff the run or put pressure on Brunell. A counter step isn't enough to freeze LBs and safeties already focused on the backfield. If we start hitting some slants and get defenses concerned about the middle of the field we'll have more breathing room for more patient running plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 The Hogs dominated in the 80's because most linemen were 275lbs. We marched out a 300lb plus line and there were no d-linemen over 280lbs back then. Then we mixed in blocking TE's and 240lb Riggins, there was no way people could stop us. Now everyone has 300lb plus linemen. But now the d-linemen go 310lbs and up and have some quickness. Not as easy to run the counter trey any more. I'm like stwasm, I love a good power running game. But in today's NFL, we see more 100 catch receivers than 35-40 carry a game RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwo40 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I want to see Duckett pound the ball at Dallas this week to wear down that D. At least 15 touches for him and 20 for Portis. Let's just crush these guys! I didn't see this mentioned much or answered anywhere...but does anyone have a logical explaination why with 3 times in the redzone Duckett never got the ball? WTF is he here for, if not for those situations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Gibbs kept insisting he was going to use him at the goal line, but he said the situation never came up. Was Gibbs watching the same game as us? Bad excuse by him. We had a 2nd and goal at the 3 at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Gibbs kept insisting he was going to use him at the goal line, but he said the situation never came up. Was Gibbs watching the same game as us? Bad excuse by him. We had a 2nd and goal at the 3 at one point. We could have at least put him in the game as a decoy.....I bet Minny would have tried to jump the run if they saw us sub him in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted September 13, 2006 Author Share Posted September 13, 2006 We could have at least put him in the game as a decoy.....I bet Minny would have tried to jump the run if they saw us sub him in.... I agree with you 100%. We used power football and running when we went on our 5 game win streak last year...that's why I'm curious about our offensive strategy and almost wonder if we are trying to get too fancy. We have a good line with experienced run blockers. When we ran at Minnesota we seemed to have success with it, particularly to our left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcterry7 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Clinton had trouble a when Gibbs tried to run the countertray in Clinton's first year here. He is a very instinctive back, he also is better hitting the hole quicker rather than being patient for that guard to pull around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouBrokeMyHeartFredo Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 We could have at least put him in the game as a decoy.....I bet Minny would have tried to jump the run if they saw us sub him in.... I totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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