FunBunch7 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Before coming back to the Redskins, Joe Gibbs had to give up his ownership interest in the Falcons as we all know. I wonder if that relationship helped facilitate this trade. I'm not sure how "close" he was to the organization other than being a "percentage" owner. Does anyone have any more insight into this relationship that might have helped or do you think the deal would have gotten done anyways? I said in an earlier post that "IF" the Redskins wanted Ducket, they WOULD get him. I feel like that with ANY player that the team REALLY wants but it is nice having a bit more in the arsenal. Other than the Jets being our Triple A farm team, I like our ability to get trades done. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NattyLight Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 FROM ESPN INSIDER: First, the Falcons lost wide receiver Brian Finneran for the season, leaving them without a third receiver. Coach Jim Mora told front-office officials over the weekend that he wanted a third receiver and wanted one soon. The Falcons for weeks had been shopping running back T.J. Duckett, and the Redskins became interested after Clinton Portis dislocated his shoulder. Though Portis is supposed to be ready for the start of the regular season, the Redskins picked up Duckett as insurance. The Redskins gave up the equivalent of a high third-round choice in order to get Duckett, who will be involved in the offense as a big back. For what it's worth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpj0122 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Before coming back to the Redskins, Joe Gibbs had to give up his ownership interest in the Falcons as we all know. I wonder if that relationship helped facilitate this trade.I'm not sure how "close" he was to the organization other than being a "percentage" owner. Does anyone have any more insight into this relationship that might have helped or do you think the deal would have gotten done anyways? I said in an earlier post that "IF" the Redskins wanted Ducket, they WOULD get him. I feel like that with ANY player that the team REALLY wants but it is nice having a bit more in the arsenal. Other than the Jets being our Triple A farm team, I like our ability to get trades done. lol It's easy to get trades done when you give away the farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Now I can stop being afraid of "1st and goal" and worrying about how the Redskins would be able to score by running the ball Duckett is 6'0" and 254 lbs. That is what we need for a 1st and goal on about the 3 to 6 yard lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 It's easy to get trades done when you give away the farm. Yawn. Nobody's given away the farm. The Skins have proactively addressed an area they've identified as needing insurance given the reality of injury, and based on their value charts and needs, brought in a player with tremendous upside to fill a very specific need. To sit here in August, knowing NOTHING about how this will all play out, and flatly state they've grossly overpaid for his services is meaningless. Come December, when the team's neck-deep in a playoff race and Duckett has become a key component in that run, please be sure to come back revisit with us whether or not they "gave away the farm." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Before coming back to the Redskins, Joe Gibbs had to give up his ownership interest in the Falcons as we all know. I wonder if that relationship helped facilitate this trade.I'm not sure how "close" he was to the organization other than being a "percentage" owner. Does anyone have any more insight into this relationship that might have helped or do you think the deal would have gotten done anyways? I said in an earlier post that "IF" the Redskins wanted Ducket, they WOULD get him. I feel like that with ANY player that the team REALLY wants but it is nice having a bit more in the arsenal. Other than the Jets being our Triple A farm team, I like our ability to get trades done. lol Joe Gibbs got his career going at a young age working under John McKay at USC. He has known Rich McKay (Atlanta's GM) literally since he was a kid. I've even heard him speak very fondly of him - don't remember where - maybe one of his books or something Not to mention he also has a good relationship with Arthur Blank resulting in Home Depot sponsoring one of his race cars. I'm sure they are probably a comfortable team for Joe to do business with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF4L Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Yawn.Nobody's given away the farm. The Skins have proactively addressed an area they've identified as needing insurance given the reality of injury, and based on their value charts and needs, brought in a player with tremendous upside to fill a very specific need. To sit here in August, knowing NOTHING about how this will all play out, and flatly state they've grossly overpaid for his services is meaningless. Come December, when the team's neck-deep in a playoff race and Duckett has become a key component in that run, please be sure to come back revisit with us whether or not they "gave away the farm." :applause: as usual, Om Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blloyd33 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Yes it did help. The farm? The farm? You are joking right. The farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Couple good fryers and a cow pehaps but not the farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 interesting. I'm sure Gibbs knows a lot about this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadirtbags Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Yawn.Nobody's given away the farm. The Skins have proactively addressed an area they've identified as needing insurance given the reality of injury, and based on their value charts and needs, brought in a player with tremendous upside to fill a very specific need. To sit here in August, knowing NOTHING about how this will all play out, and flatly state they've grossly overpaid for his services is meaningless. Come December, when the team's neck-deep in a playoff race and Duckett has become a key component in that run, please be sure to come back revisit with us whether or not they "gave away the farm." great post!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunBunch7 Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 Back in the 80's Darrell Green was our last 1st round pick for like a dozen years. Gibbs has always been willing to part with draft picks...especially now considering the price tag that comes with them. It seemed to work out okay back then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins55 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Without a shaddow of a doubt.. I'm sure Gibbs ties to the falcons influenced this trade. There were other good backs out there to get or trade for ( Barlow, Jones, Davis) But I wouldn't put the decision soley on Gibbs. I think the scouting department and Saunders had a big hand in this decision as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaftypin Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Yawn.Nobody's given away the farm. The Skins have proactively addressed an area they've identified as needing insurance given the reality of injury, and based on their value charts and needs, brought in a player with tremendous upside to fill a very specific need. To sit here in August, knowing NOTHING about how this will all play out, and flatly state they've grossly overpaid for his services is meaningless. Come December, when the team's neck-deep in a playoff race and Duckett has become a key component in that run, please be sure to come back revisit with us whether or not they "gave away the farm." weo, chiki weo weo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 It's easy to get trades done when you give away the farm. Give away the farm? We gave one egg and a glass of milk to be exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'd take a harder look at Cerrato's ties to the Broncos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 giving away the farm? evidently some of you guys are too young to remember the compensation the Bills gave Jacksonville for Rob Johnson or what the Panthers gave up in compensation to the Redskins for Sean Gilbert :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappy434 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'd take a harder look at Cerrato's ties to the Broncos. whoa....he's here!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown 43 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Hey, kids. Remember when we played Seattle in the playoffs and CP was banged-up and Betts was not much help. You are going to thank Mr. Gibbs and staff for big-guy Duckett taking a few carries away from CP. We will all be fresh in Janruary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterwagen Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 It's easy to get trades done when you give away the farm.So, if Duckett in his current state was in the draft for some reason and the Skins used a 3rd round pick on him, it would be "giving away the farm"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterwagen Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I'd take a harder look at Cerrato's ties to the Broncos.Interesting. So maybe the Skins masterminded this trade after hearing from the Falcons about their need for a 3rd WR, in the midst of the ongoing talks they've been having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 if the Redskins had actually used a #3 pick on TJ Duckett as a runner in 2006 with his size and height people would be saying that we got a steal :laugh: let's face it, the Redskins got the best running back available at a time in which there was uncertainty at that spot on the team due to the injury to Portis. yes, I would rather have LaDainian Tomlinson but he wasn't available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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