skinsfan93 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I know that there are more than a few fans (and enemies) that wondered why we signed ARE to such a big contract, especially given that fact that we traded for Lloyd and also that ARE will be the number 3 wideout. I for one loved the signing. He may not catch more than 50 balls this year because we have so many weapons but he has so many other intangibles. Reading through the training camp posts, people are talking about the trick plays that ARE will be involved with. Well, duh? That's what he did in Pittsburgh. He caught the ball, passed the ball, ran the ball, took direct snaps from center and even returned kicks. The guy wasn't signed to just be a prototypical wideout. He adds so much more and Gibbs will find a way to have him involved in a lot of important plays. So the question is....how many TD's will ARE be involved in during the regular season? This includes receiving, passing, running, and returns. My predicition: 4 receiving, 3 passing, 3 running, and 1 returning. 11 TOTAL Your prediction? HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragemdw Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I know that there are more than a few fans (and enemies) that wondered why we signed ARE to such a big contract, especially given that fact that we traded for Lloyd and also that ARE will be the number 3 wideout. I for one loved the signing. He may not catch more than 50 balls this year because we have so many weapons but he has so many other intangibles.Reading through the training camp posts, people are talking about the trick plays that ARE will be involved with. Well, duh? That's what he did in Pittsburgh. He caught the ball, passed the ball, ran the ball, took direct snaps from center and even returned kicks. The guy wasn't signed to just be a prototypical wideout. He adds so much more and Gibbs will find a way to have him involved in a lot of important plays. So the question is....how many TD's will ARE be involved in during the regular season? This includes receiving, passing, running, and returns. My predicition: 4 receiving, 3 passing, 3 running, and 1 returning. 11 TOTAL Your prediction? HTTR That prediction should be moved on the going out on a limb section. THe guy has never had a rushing TD. He has 7 receiving in his career, passed 2 and only 5 returns. Thats in years. So to think that he will match his career totals in one season is really stretching it. I think he is there as a threat for a reverse and trick play so its forcing the opposing defense to really focus on him. Hes not here to score TD's. thats what portis, cooley, moss, and sellers are for!!:helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 3 rec 1 pass 1 running 2 returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Patrol Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 1 return, 4 receiving, 1 passing. Those are very optimistic numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 1 return, 4 receiving, 1 passing. Those are very optimistic numbers. Thats my feeling with a give/take of 1 on just one of those categories...so I think he'll have between 5 and 7 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philal0102 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 1 return, 4 receiving, 1 passing. Those are very optimistic numbers. Yeah that seems accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 If he just catches one TD, thats more then any of our back ups did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocono Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 If El only returns punts and not KO's he may have a hard time scoring. A Danny Smith coached special teams hasn't scored a TD on a punt in the last 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 1 return, 4 receiving, 1 passing. Those are very optimistic numbers. I too would say 6 overall, but I'm not going to guess where they're going to come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 If El only returns punts and not KO's he may have a hard time scoring. A Danny Smith coached special teams hasn't scored a TD on a punt in the last 4 years. Ahhh, the new opponents' mantra. I guess we have moved on from the lack of offensive line depth. You guys kill me. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOLhandsCOOLEY Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Over Zero Under 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NattyLight Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I'm going to go with seven. ARE will have seven TD's this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 If he just catches one TD, thats more then any of our back ups did last year. :laugh: Thats more than our #2 did last year! :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 He had 6 last year including the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 If El only returns punts and not KO's he may have a hard time scoring. A Danny Smith coached special teams hasn't scored a TD on a punt in the last 4 years. And, as I stated in the last thread you wasted your time with in typing that, Danny Smith had the amazing Charlie Rogers, Nate Clements, James Thrash and Antonio Brown returning punts for him in those years. And, as I already said before, everyone knows that coaching and schemes mean less in a punt return team than a punt returner's natural skills. Numbers often have too much importance put on them. What's more important is understanding the game that's actually played on the field, which unfortunately most guys like KC Joyner and other stat hogs forget in their lab reports. (I'm not talking about you Pocono) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocono Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Ahhh, the new opponents' mantra. I guess we have moved on from the lack of offensive line depth. You guys kill me. :laugh: I guess that's your version of attack the messenger instead of the message but here are the rankings of the Bills and the Skins pre and post Danny Smith. 02 Bills 30th Skins 11th 03 Bills 31st Skins 15th 04- Smith goes from Bills to Skins Skins 20th Bills 5th 05 Skins 28th Bills 5th In those 4 years no PR TD's by a Smith coached team. The year after Smith left Buf they had two punts returned for TDs. If you expect El to return punts for TD's as often as he did with the Steelers you may be disappointed like you were if you expected Portis to average the same 5.6 yds per rush he did in Denver when he came to the Skins. Just like Portis El will still be a very good player but coaching and system do make a difference and D Smith's PR results speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 In those 4 years no PR TD's by a Smith coached team. The year after Smith left Buf they had two punts returned for TDs. If you expect El to return punts for TD's as often as he did with the Steelers you may be disappointed like you were if you expected Portis to average the same 5.6 yds per rush he did in Denver when he came to the Skins. Just like Portis El will still be a very good player but coaching and system do make a difference and D Smith's PR results speak for themselves. Interesting stats, but weren't we one of the best kick coverage units also? And wasn't Morton hurt for most of 04? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I guess that's your version of attack the messenger instead of the message but here are the rankings of the Bills and the Skins pre and post Danny Smith.02 Bills 30th Skins 11th 03 Bills 31st Skins 15th 04- Smith goes from Bills to Skins Skins 20th Bills 5th 05 Skins 28th Bills 5th In those 4 years no PR TD's by a Smith coached team. The year after Smith left Buf they had two punts returned for TDs. If you expect El to return punts for TD's as often as he did with the Steelers you may be disappointed like you were if you expected Portis to average the same 5.6 yds per rush he did in Denver when he came to the Skins. Just like Portis El will still be a very good player but coaching and system do make a difference and D Smith's PR results speak for themselves. I noticed you cherry picked your stats. The year before Danny Smith got here the Skins were in fact #15 in return average. What you fail to note is that the team returned a total of 22 friggin punts the entire year. I don't have the stats but on average a team punts about 80 times or more in a year, meaning that approximately 60 punts weren't returned. In Danny Smith's first year the team returned 43 punts for a 7.9 average, meaning an extra 124 yards in punt returns that year. Last year it dropped back down to 30 as we watched Antonio Brown run sideline to sideline really fast when he wasn't fumbling. The signing of Randle El makes it pretty clear where the coaching staff thinks the problem was. I would also like to note that the punters net average the year before Danny Smith got here was 35.5. In 2004 it was 37.1 and last year 38.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant15fromNJ Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I would like to see 10 anyway we can but for sure we are getting 2 or 3 from him passing their is no way that we dont run a play for him to pass a few times a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trez Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 One Zillion Bazillion touchdowns for the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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