RIDETHEWALRUS Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 It is widely accepted across this message board that we need more depth at CB and may need to aquire a starting caliber WLB. What I am wondering is this...does the development of ST and the addition of AA make either position less important? When Holdman started at WLB last year several big runs were broken against us. Clemons is unproven. We don't really have aclue what Sykes can do. In the offseason we added AA to replace Clark (whose side most of the big runs came against). AA is regarded as stout against the run. ST has yet another year under his belt hopefully improving his ability to diagnose plays and make more tackles at the LOS. Kenny Wright started all 16 games last season for the 7th ranked D. Despite this he garnered little interest in the FA market and many on this board are worried about his ability to step in if Springs or Rogers goes down. Once again we have AA, which I believe to be an upgrade over Clark. AA has not proven himself to be very good against the pass however. ST, once again, is a year older. He should be more capable of providing help to our CBs if need be. I believe that CB is more of a need based on the status of our secondary. I think the addition of AA makes our need at WLB very much less dire. I am also nervous about AA's cover skills because he has very few INTs in his career. What do yall think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I am also leaning toward a CB or even a S, if Daniel Bullocks falls to us I think we have to use the pick on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Daniel Bullocks Height: 6-0 1/2 | Weight: 212 | 40-Time: 4.38Strengths: Has good size and a solid frame...Very instinctive...Ballhawk with a nose for the interception...Physical and supports the run well...Has a knack for being around the action...Has good mobility and range...Solid tackler...Very productive...Plays the ball in the air well...Team leader and coach on the field...Three year starter. Weaknesses: Is not great in man coverage...Doesn't play to timed speed...Not very agile and does not change directions well...Lacks fluid hips...Doesn't recover well...Is not a big hitter...Probably doesn't have a lot of upside or potential and may be about as good as he will get...Might need to be in the right type of scheme to succeed. Notes: Twin brother Josh (who is younger by 1 minute) was a 2nd round pick of the New Orleans Saints in 2005...Player with solid measurables and top intangibles...Isn't quite the prospect his brother was a year ago but he isn't too far away either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Interesting points....but their impact aside...I'd rather have another corner...GW has proven that he can cause LB's to accel in his defense, but CB is more of a skills position that requires the tools when you come in (ie. even GW can't turn Ade Jimoh into a solid corner)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critz1407 Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I'm not as worried about the saftey position as I am with OLB or CB, thats what we really need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Interesting points....but their impact aside...I'd rather have another corner...GW has proven that he can cause LB's to accel in his defense, but CB is more of a skills position that requires the tools when you come in (ie. even GW can't turn Ade Jimoh into a solid corner)... Jimoh improved drastically in 2005 and I believe will continue to improve. Jimoh will be a pleasant surprise next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 A CB that can also play the S position is really what we need. That is why if no one falls, Cedric Griffin in my mind is the safe pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinja Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 i also feel that secondary is important. maybe a CB that could also play safety would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Smash Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 trade for a 3rd rounder to get cedric griffin(he could definitely fall that far)- that way we can get both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Hogg Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Ced will never fall to round 3 bank on on it.If you want to talk safties at 53 it begins and ends with Ko Simpson stud who can play Cb as well as saftey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 we only have 3 safeties on the roster now(AA, ST, PP) and i think this is an area of concern. i think taking a CB in the draft will take some pressure off our safeties but i think we should look at signing another safety. last year i thought our safety depth was awesome and i loved having all 5 of those guys on the team. i wish we had resigned clark or stoutmire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 While Williams has shown a knack for turning no-name LBs into excellent players, he was unable to do anything with Holdman. I would feel very uncomfortable w/ Holdman as our starter (if he plays at last year's level). And I still do not know if Clemons can be an every down LB. That being said I think AA's ability against the run makes WLB much less of a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 we only have 3 safeties on the roster now(AA, ST, PP) and i think this is an area of concern. i think taking a CB in the draft will take some pressure off our safeties but i think we should look at signing another safety. last year i thought our safety depth was awesome and i loved having all 5 of those guys on the team. i wish we had resigned clark or stoutmire We actually have four, Curry Burns out of Louisville. I agree that we need to add another vet safety but maybe GW feels he can utilize Burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Shake, Rattle and Roll is how I would describe our Safeties. Shake -- Adam Archuletta Rattle -- Sean Taylor Roll -- The players that have been hit by either Archuletta or Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINSQ Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 greg threat: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/gregthreat.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted April 27, 2006 Author Share Posted April 27, 2006 I would love to have a safety named Threat. Only question is can he play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 When you combine the lack of safeties on the roster and the importance of the safety position in GW's defence, you can bet the farm that a safety will be drafted and it could be drafted as early as pick no. 53. Ideally the player drafted could be a swing type who can play either FS or SS. IMO, Ko Simpson would be ideal as he can play either spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Jimoh improved drastically in 2005 and I believe will continue to improve. Jimoh will be a pleasant surprise next year. agreed, but he will never be a solid starter - maybe a good nickle back, or a temporary fix, but he doesn't have the tools to perform week after week - but hey, he can prove me wrong and become a pro-bowl caliber corner - I would gladly admit that I was wrong and that he's the man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 It's not just improved safety play that lessens the need for a CB. Getting Andre Carter hopefully has the desired effect of giving us a solid rush from the front four which will leave the CBs less exposed. I also think we will see quite a bit of blitzing out of Archuleta which should help pressure the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I would love to have a safety named Threat. Only question is can he play? kind of like having a defensive lineman named Killings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicdesi Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 We need depth at Safety, I agree, but we need it more at CB. We have prielou for depth. It would be hard to lose a CB though, I mean look at Philly or New York the last few years. Our defense is made around the CB's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinja Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 can someone post a link with ko simpsons stats since he seems to be such a popular pick on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Daniel Bullocks based on numbers alone I'd take him here's to finding the next D. Green ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBS LIVES Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 As bad as we need depth on the O-line, I'd find using # 53 on a safety unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Hogg Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I think there is OL talent later in draft(Joe Toledo-Jhari Evans etc) no way we use 53rd pick there.Cb,weakside or DL is where the talent is at 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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