21KillzCowboys Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 This would be great to have this cleared up before the draft. If it is not resolved, do we need to pursue a S as a contingency plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBnG21 Posted April 21, 2006 Author Share Posted April 21, 2006 I wonder who Julius Gardner is. And what the letter is. Julius Gardner is a witness. Evidently, he's currently on probation for assaulting a police officer within a couple of days of the "incident". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbcbu Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Julius Gardner is a witness. Evidently, he's currently on probation for assaulting a police officer within a couple of days of the "incident". Yea i just found that out. Now im wondering what the letter says that they gave. Because after the letter they are now requesting a dismiss of the charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahbird Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Yesterday somebody on here posted a link to the Dade county DA's and Attorney's message board. Some lawyer from NY Davidoff should be a hero to us. Evidently he exposed greico. Search for it. These lawyers are way more foulmouthed than we are allowed to get. It was pretty funny, there were some vary dissenting views on Sean though, people calling him a thug and a gangster. A lot of the posts were annonymous (I am thinking cowboy fans) so they did not hold much credebility. Davidoff put his name on everything he wrote though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Question: Doesn't it seem feasible that political/reputation factors might come into play here? If a judge dismissed the case now, it will serve as a condemnation of sorts against the Miami DA's office -- they could look totally incompetent. It will appear that the DA really did trump up the charges, and will give an impression of the inmates running the asylum - prosecuting attorneys zealously seeking incitements against undeserving defendants. So maybe the judge, who has relationships with all the attorneys in the DA's office - and a vested interest in keeping the Miami judicial system from being ridiculed - might not want this case thrown out in an effort to save face. A judge is a political position as well as a judicial one, and judges are not above taking public opinion into account, IMO. I couldn't say for sure since I don't know Judge Mary Barzee or what she might do. But it seems likely that she would at least factor the reputation of the DA's office into her decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 The case isn't going to get dismissed. Sure, Greico judgement was questionable but nothing he did compromised the integrity of the case.This cas will get to trial and hopefully for Sean Taylor the jury finds him not guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philal0102 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 hopefully in the end ST will be back on the field instead of in a jail cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGFollower Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 i dunno i keep thinking some new prosecuting attorney will show up at the dismal hearing and say "i just got assigned this case today can we postpone this for 1 month?" They could punish ST by pushing this into the fall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Party at Automatic Slims after it's dismissed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledbottumz Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I can't believe that they won't grant a continuance a prosecutor to be assigned and for the prosecutor to get familiar with the case. The fact that Grieco left the case at the behest of the defense, and that the defense has asked for so many delays already, means that there's not really any speedy trial issue here, so I think the court will probably give the prosecution ample time to prepare its case, which means that if they're not ready, they'll most likely get a continuance. I also very seriously doubt they'll just dismiss the case at this point. as embarrassed as they are at this point, they've been standing behind grieco, and I really don't think dismissing the charges is an option for the prosecution. I also seriously doubt the court will all of the sudden dismiss the case, since I doubt any new evidence as emerged, and while the accusers/victims might not be credible, they're still apparently willing to testify under oath as to what happened, and so there's an issue of fact to be resolved by a jury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 This case is never going to trial...the DA's office knows they would be crushed...they have no case...at all...it's all political grandstanding...the worst that will happen is that ST will plead to a misdemeanor and walk out a free man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin56 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I can't believe that they won't grant a continuance a prosecutor to be assigned and for the prosecutor to get familiar with the case. The fact that Grieco left the case at the behest of the defense, and that the defense has asked for so many delays already, means that there's not really any speedy trial issue here, so I think the court will probably give the prosecution ample time to prepare its case, which means that if they're not ready, they'll most likely get a continuance. I also very seriously doubt they'll just dismiss the case at this point. as embarrassed as they are at this point, they've been standing behind grieco, and I really don't think dismissing the charges is an option for the prosecution. I also seriously doubt the court will all of the sudden dismiss the case, since I doubt any new evidence as emerged, and while the accusers/victims might not be credible, they're still apparently willing to testify under oath as to what happened, and so there's an issue of fact to be resolved by a jury. Most likey Taylor would have had to waive his right to a speedy trial in order for the judge to grant the numerous continuances Taylor has requested; therefore, the DA could request a continuance without a violation of speedy trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korserra Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 i dont think STs legal team would try this again if they didnt think it had a legit shot Why not? Generating more favorable publicity is an end in itself right now. This is something the defense wants to try regardless of whether they think it has any chance to work. The worst that can happen is once again the DA's office looks bad in front of the judge and in the press. Any chance of the motion actually succeeding is gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTotalPackage Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 i think ST's attorneys messed up by letting the media know what their plans were regarding filing for dismissal due to the impropriety of the prosecutors. if they had kept their mouths shut, the same prosecutor would very likely still be on the case by the time they filed for dismissal, which would further increase ST's chances. spilling the beans allowed the DA's office to maneuver and prepare for such an event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNatsFan Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I can't believe that they won't grant a continuance a prosecutor to be assigned and for the prosecutor to get familiar with the case. The fact that Grieco left the case at the behest of the defense, and that the defense has asked for so many delays already, means that there's not really any speedy trial issue here, so I think the court will probably give the prosecution ample time to prepare its case, which means that if they're not ready, they'll most likely get a continuance. This current continuance was requested by the prosecution. Greico left on his own after the DA's office finally became aware of his public website. I do agree that from a purely political standpoint, they probably won't outright dismiss the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidPennSkin Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 i think ST's attorneys messed up by letting the media know what their plans were regarding filing for dismissal due to the impropriety of the prosecutors.if they had kept their mouths shut, the same prosecutor would very likely still be on the case by the time they filed for dismissal, which would further increase ST's chances. spilling the beans allowed the DA's office to maneuver and prepare for such an event. I think ST's attorneys were forced to act when they did, because Greico's myspace website could have been taken down at any time. After it's gone, it would be much more difficult to use as bad publicity against Greico. He could just say, "as soon as I found out about the unseemly comments that others had put up on the site, I deleted the site." A google cache web page is not nearly as incriminating, publicitywise, as a myspace webpage that all can access (at least for a while). If the original website is gone, the controversy over it would be much less, and Greico would probably still be on the case. So waiting would have been a risky strategy, although it would have worked out better if the website was still up when the trial started. Then a motion to dismiss would have more chance of succeeding, IMHO. Of course, the other downside about getting Greico off the case is that his replacement may actually be a competant prosecutor, not likely to make any of the dumb grandstanding plays that Greico seems to be fond of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-O-G Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 You should be allowed to reschedule a trial so many times...lol I'm tired of just waiting, we all know the outcome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCRunner Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Greico's reassignment may end up hurting Taylor's chances at trial. If this proceeds to trial the newly assigned prosecutor may be not only more competent, but have better jury appeal than Greico ever had. And as far as the government's need for a continuance, this case seems to only involve the testimony of a few people - the prosecutor can get ready for this in no time with just a short delay - maybe one witness conference and he/she would be set to go. Of course, there may be other issues that have to be addressed. You just never know - it could get dismissed the day of trial for any number of reasons. In the end, it's all a crap shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangee7 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 "Master LL DJ" Grieco, ESQ. has totally screwed his case. I was one of ST's harshest critics, saying I wanted him to become an example. Should this case go to trial now, prepare to see skilled craftsmen at work. The mad DJ has brought enough question as to the motive behind prosecution. And as far as the star witnesses go.... Are you kidding me? One of them assaulted a cop?:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Don't bother popping the corn...this case will be finished before it starts. Remember the key phrase...."BEYOND a REASONABLE doubt". Case Closed. NEXT !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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