Pierce58 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 This might be a stupid question considering I am on a Redskin board however if at all possibly could you please provide an unbias answer.Who do you think is better?please explain. Roy Williams Sean Taylor Brian Dawkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Unhomerishly I will say B-Dawk, then ST, and finally the most overrated defensive player in the league Roy Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinja Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Unhomerishly I will say B-Dawk, then ST, and finally the most overrated defensive player in the league Roy Williams. i'd have to agree but i think taylor has the ability to be the best in the league. roy williams is extremely overrated, just ask santana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 B-Dawk has been at the top for a long time, and that is to be respected. Taylor may not be better right now, but he will be the top FS in the league in the very near future. He has unbelievable physical tools, the size, the speed, the hands, and most importantly, he has the attitude to domintate. Roy Williams shouldnt even be mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 i'd have to agree but i think taylor has the ability to be the best in the league. roy williams is extremely overrated, just ask santana. ST will be the best safety in the league sometime soon, he just needs some veteran savy to go with his wreckless abandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt'n Obvious Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Dawkins is better right now, but Taylor will soon surpass him as he gains experience. Roy Williams is the second most overrated player in the league. (behind Michael Vick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Animal Trainer Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 B-Dawk has had a better career to date. He is, however, a seasoned veteran. I'd honestly say that I think Sean Taylor has had the best season, and has the most potential. How Roy made the probowl, I'll never know. I live with a cowboy fan so when the Skins aren't on, I naturally watch the boys with him and root against them...I haven't seen Roy cover a soul all year. I was reading a cowboys message board the other day (enjoying their suffering after the sweep) and many posters on the site were wondering why he hasn't been moved to linebacker yet after several seasons of poor coverage that don't seem to be getting any better. As for B-dawk, I really don't have much to go on this season other than the Skins game...where Cooley ran him over like he was a little boy trying to tackle a grown man. Damn, I love me some Cooley. I think in the next couple seasons, Taylor will emerge as the best saftey in the NFC, then the entire league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierce58 Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 Let me add Gibril Wilson:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 I understand why people say Dawkins, but honestly i think ST is better. Not because of what he does, but because of what he doesn't have to do. If you look at the Tampa game - they tore us up over the middle because Sean wasn't back there. When he is in the game teams are TERRIFIED to go across the middle (just ask T. Glenn). I don't think there is another safety in the league that makes people think twice quite like Taylor does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxrev Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 i have to agree with everyone on this, st WILL be the best, just not yet. but theres no hope for the "texas toast". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinja Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 it's a shame ST didn't make the pro bowl i could make that statement about a few skins and if anyone could help me...how do you put custom pictures and names for your avatar? is there a forum for that or a how to somewhere on this site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 As for B-dawk, I really don't have much to go on this season other than the Skins game...where Cooley ran him over like he was a little boy trying to tackle a grown man. I believe you mean Mike Sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Wilson and Taylor should be in the Probowl. Dawkins is still a beast, but Wilson and Taylor will likely take him over next year as they hit their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockeryfan Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 I think Dawkins is better right now. They are grilling him in Philly for missing tackles, but he's a more complete player. Right now. The upside on Taylor is huge. When he stops making rookie like mistakes (which is less and less) , he'll be phenomenal. He's already a lot of fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierce58 Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 GIBRIL WILSON Games Tackles Solos AST Sacks INT 1410079.02132 SEAN TAYLOR Games Tackles Solos AST Sacks INT 135346 712 Thats my case for Gibril Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skin_finatic Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 GIBRIL WILSON Games Tackles Solos AST Sacks INT 1410079.02132 SEAN TAYLOR Games Tackles Solos AST Sacks INT 135346 712 Thats my case for Gibril Wilson tackles are the most overrated stat for a saftey... its pretty tough for taylor to get tackles when teams try to stay away from him. As a force on the field I think any fan (besides giant fans), player, or coach would take taylor any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 tackles are the most overrated stat for a saftey... its pretty tough for taylor to get tackles when teams try to stay away from him. As a force on the field I think any fan (besides giant fans), player, or coach would take taylor any day. Yeah, i mean c'mon - the guy's name is Gibril. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertfox59 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 it's a shame ST didn't make the pro bowl i could make that statement about a few skins and if anyone could help me...how do you put custom pictures and names for your avatar? is there a forum for that or a how to somewhere on this site? The reason that ST didn't make the Pro bowl is politics....There is a trial schedualed for January 17th and the League doesn't want to tarnish their image by putting someone who might be a felon on their pro bowl roster.. It's just another example how Political Correctness ruines FAIRNESS....ST is clearly the best Safety in the league anyone who tells you other wise just doesn't know football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 The only thing B-Dawk has on S. Taylor is experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 By the way Pierce, you seen like a kewl giants fan, we have another one name Tom who comes around. Welcome to the board and a toast to an injury free game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierce58 Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 Yeah, i mean c'mon - the guy's name is Gibril. What an arguement,I would say that some may be right about coaches wanting Taylor over Gibril but Gibril does not have problems with the law...just something to think about they both have great upside and they where taken in the same draft which many people don't know.Giant Fans wanted Manning or Taylor and instead we go Manning and someone who is comparable to Taylor,Gibril is a great run stopper just keep an eye on #28.Should be a great game GO BIG BLUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skindogger47 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Ask Gregg Williams who he'd rather have. I think he knows about safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Actually it's Jesse "The Forehead" Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierce58 Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 By the way Pierce, you seen like a kewl giants fan, we have another one name Tom who comes around. Welcome to the board and a toast to an injury free game Thanks alot..I know this may sound cliche but ever since Wellington Mara died I have been doing my best to represent my team with dignity and pride,just because that is what Mara would want us all too do. I too hope for an injury free game and a nice hard fought battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Dawkins is probably the better, more polished player. But he is an experienced veteran. Taylor hasn't even played two full seasons yet. He is still technically a kid. That's what scary about Taylor. He is playing as good as he is, and he probably hasn't even hit his stride yet. I'd say Dawkins now, but Taylor soon. Roy Williams is overrated. He's pretty good in run support, and can be a hard hitter. But he's lousy in coverage (Moss runs circles around him), and he gets blown up on attempted tackles sometimes. Of the three (or four if you count the gerbil ), I'd prefer Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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