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This means no darnold/Mariota so I’m not too upset. But between franchising scherff, losing Darby for cheap, and signing fitz, I’m not loving the start to FA. Plenty of time left but $28m already spent doesn’t leave us with a whole lot to work with.

Love this. I’ve been touting this guy for too long. I do question his size and durability, but he has the football IQ and athleticism to be really damn good.

he’s quick, elusive, has great pocket presence combined with a mind that can get thru 5 reads in under 3 seconds. Athletic nerd, I welcome that at qb any day.

Dak just started following WFT on Instagram... my FA dream scenario starting to shape up.

i knowwww it’s a ridiculous stretch, but these little rumors and tidbits are what keep the off-season fun.

11 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Our line was night and day different with him in or out of there. Hes one of the best in the league. 

 

Offensive lineman are on the field for every single Offensive snap. Not sure how you can downplay the importance of an upright QB and a successful running game.

You’re comparing the play of scherff to that of a backup RG? Yea, of course it’s better, but nowhere near the night and day you speak of. I don’t have pfff, so I don’t know where he ranks among guards, but he was only and 82 (very good, not elite). Paying a very good player #1 money is a think that smart, successful teams don’t do. Plain and simple. 

I hear the talk is 18m/yr, that’s what I’m basing my opinion on. If he takes a team friendly deal around 10-12m, I’m all about it.

I didn’t expect so many skins fans to be caught up on the all-pro tag... you watched him play, you watched him play at an above average level, and you want to pay him 1/3 of our available cap? 18m to a RG? Allocating 1/10 of our available cap to arguably the least important position on the field is lunacy. Sentimental value should have nothing to do with this equation.

and as I said previously, we should have no problem continuing to be a not dominant OL without him. The left side of our OL was complete patchwork and it held up just the same as the right side.

39 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said:

There’s always a chance a player changes their views after seeing what their coach is building and where a team is heading. 

I’d like to believe that, but when was the last time u saw a player take a sign at a hometown discount (other than Brady)? Scherff couldn’t be in better negotiating position given his age and all-pro tag... I don’t see him doing it, but would love to be wrong.

4 hours ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said:

So we’ve seen reports that Scherff wants to return, and Rivera implied that he wanted him back, there was mutual interest on Darby coming back, plus we were in negotiations with Jon Allen’s reps late December on an extension. Three key moves.

 

Would be great to close those out, and the QB position as priorities.

Would love to work out deals with Darby and Allen, but I don’t see how we come to a common ground with scherff.

i like scherff and would love to have him back... at the right cost. He got the all-pro tag this year and I could have sworn last year he said he wanted top dollar. You watched the team this year, did you see dominance out of him? I certainly didn’t. And his pff grade agrees as he was not rated in the “elite” category. I have a real problem paying $15m+ for a top 5-10 player at the least important position on the OL. We can continue to not be dominant for a much lower cost.

39 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I have to believe that FOs aren't acting like fans and over reacting because of the QB frenzy. This is a purse string cap year and these contracts aren't going to be over the moon. Especially with such a great WR draft.

They still will be. The cap is will bounce back next year, so contracts will just be backloaded. No free agents will be taking a discount because of a team cap problem.

more the reason why I don’t see how the cowboys can afford to keep dak when they’re already over the cap. I assume he’d cost them significant player cuts and a nightmare dead cap situation. Thanks for choosing the cowboys amari!

I just want heinecke on the books so our qb situation doesn’t feel so desperate. I think Allen can pan out, but he may not be back for the start of the season.

im no scientist, but I don’t see how the boys fit dak on the books. It would take a ton of restructuring contracts and a few cuts. I see it as a 50/50 that he hits the market. We wouldn’t be the only ones at the auction, but to get him for free (no trade) is a much better option than a big trade for average Stafford or a massive trade for Watson. Pair that man with this defense and we are a scary team.

Man so glad they decided not to take our “better” offer. I don’t know what it was, kind of disappointed we offered that much, but hey if we’re willing to sell out for a qb, let’s get us some Watson... an actual difference maker.

10 minutes ago, kingdaddy said:

I agree, I not only think we will overpay for Stafford but then I think we will overpay in an extension. The only saving grace after the deal will be a SB win cause we will be all in on Stafford. 

Its the Dan way. That being said, we need a QB and this might be the price of getting the guy that takes us to the top. Stafford is a very good QB, give him a running game and a great defense and who knows how far he could take us....if we get him.

I’ve been saying it for weeks, if Dan was still completely in charge of personnel decision Haskins wouldn’t have been cut. Plain and simple. He’s way too ignorant to let the little strip club incident and the worst qb rating in the league weigh on his shiny hand picked draft pick.

My initial reaction is pass on stafford for anything more than a 1st. He feels so cousinsy. At the end of the year he has a solid stat line, but his team never pushes that .500 mark. 
 

it may still be a crazy thing to say around here, but i say we sign up heinecke, and see if we can get in the Watson/possibly dak sweepstakes. Let’s go for special, not slightly above average. Especially if it involves a bunch of draft capital and salary cap. Heineckes injury history is my only worry, I read up and watched far too much tape on him after his panthers appearance. I was dogged pretty hard for pleading that we start him against the Bucs. The kid has everything except for a cannon... and by now hopefully everyone here realizes that a strong arm is possibly the least important qb attribute.

point is, we have the D, let’s either go for broke on qb. Let’s not set the franchise back for Stafford if it involves much more than one 1st...

19 minutes ago, -JB- said:

Doesn’t take Einstein to realize Haskins is possibly the worst QB of all-time 🤣 Things are changing?  Just 2019 Snyder made them draft Haskins even tho nobody in the room wanted him.  Nothing is changing!  It’s more of the same.

Haha you’re pointing to a time before the changes started... i get it man, how many times have we said things are changing. It’s the boy who cried wolf. But you’re being very @GOATFrerotte on this one.

If you really think nothings changing when Dan stood on a table to make the team draft Haskins and then less than 2 years later let’s his pride and joy get cut then you’re missing something. I respect u as a long time poster, but you must see how this would have never happened if Snyder was really calling the shots.

28 minutes ago, -JB- said:

Snyder laying it on thick!!!! How many layers of guys will he add to distract us from the simple fact that he will override every single one of these clowns when he wants whatever he wants????? IT NEVER MATTERS!!!! If he wants Deshaun Watson he will tell every single one of these empty coats to trade any and everything to get him!  Get on board with reality...

Then please explain how he let his golden boy Haskins get cut? Not just benched, not just a talking to, cut. The player who he forced on this team. Relax man, things are changing... whether u refuse to see it or not.

Admittedly, I don’t do daily GM scouting, so I’m no expert, but I’m struggling to understand why everyone is up in arms over the hiring hurney and mahew.

As TK pointed out a few pages back, hurney has been smoking first round picks. And mahew I assume had a part in building the 9ers and their recent super bowl team.

we’re all hot on Kyle smith and I like the guy, but I don’t think the average non-WFT fan would prefer him to either of these gents. In fact, I think most would be outright disappointed if they hired smith as their team’s GM.

Curious why people are so willing to mortgage the future on Watson, but wouldn’t simply pay dak? I see dak nearly on the same level as Watson, but we could get him for free... yes, this is assuming he hits FA.

Dak- give up zero draft capital, pay $40m/yr

Deshaun- sign away our future, pay $40m/yr

We’re not talking about mahomes here. I love deshaun, but look how far he led his team this year... deshaun and dak are 1a 1b. It should be no-brainer for those so willing to give up the world for deshaun to be more than happy to pay dak if he hits the market.

have any of the pro-cammers watched him play this year... or any of the past 4 years? He’s not a good passer and his football IQ is just not there. If you took away his threat to run he’s dwayne Haskins. id be much more content sporting Kyle Allen on his salary than wasting more than a couple mil on bringing in cam. He’s a big name, big body, but a bad qb. Why spend any money on a bottom tier qb? 
 

ive said it before and I’ll say it again, break the bank on dak if he makes it to FA. top tier qb + top tier defense = success in this league.

I’m not a huge fan of stafford, but I wouldn’t mind bringing him over if the price is less than a 1st rounder.

couldn’t be happier that we made the playoffs, but if we get wiped by TB then it’s going to be hard to not wish we had the #10 pick and a good chance at drafting a franchise qb.

23 hours ago, TheShredder said:

Heinicke had two series of garbage time yards and threw up some good 50/50 balls along with a few easy INT balls.  He's a pure backup and nothing to get excited about. 

Funny how the listed Height and Weights are inflated on rosters, but there's good'ol Turner in his presser saying he's only 6 foot #200.  LOL

 

Once u comprehend what gargbage time is then u may continue to post.

7 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

This is pretty flattering from that article :

 

"I coached quarterbacks 32 years; I've only had one five-read guy, and that was Taylor," former ODU coach Bobby Wilder said. "He could go 1 through 5 in 2.6 seconds because of his ability to do one or two pre-snap reads and then get into the play."

It was clear as day how quick he moves thru his progressions. Quite a bit different then the qb who just stared down mcclaurin or the other qb who looked downfield just to dump it off.

I said it in the next day thread, this guy always threw to the most open wr, you could see that he was finding the best option on every play. 
 

i love Alex but am disappointed we aren’t going with heineke. We know we have a nice game manage in Alex, let’s see if we have something more in this kid. 

5 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said:

Yeah well the culture is suppose to be changing.  Wanna change the culture?  Stop living in past failures. 

Right... continue the culture change by not giving ourselves unearned nicknames.

im all about taylor for this game vs the eagles, but I’m trying to temper expectations. He faced a bad defense that was essentially playing prevent. That being said, he seemed to flash through his progressions lightning quick and always found the open wr. Other than one ball that sailed on him he threw dimes.

high football iq + accurate >>>> big arm

Alex is a man amongst men, I truly admire him, but if I was the FO this off-season I’d be trying my damnest to convince his wife to convince him to retire. That contract is a huge problem. 
 

On the other line I’d be backing up the brinks truck for dak the second he hits the market.

this will sound like crazy, homer talk, and it very well may be, but I truly believe we’re in a contract/talent sweet spot (outside of smith). This D is top 5 as it stands and that’s with a turnover machine/3-and-out/terrible ToP offense. Can you imagine if this offense could control the clock, put up points and take a lead, a big lead, and allow the deadly front 7 to pin their ears back...

you give terry, AG, Thomas, an actual threat at qb. Pair that offense with a great defense. Guys, that’s the recipe...

Nice to see holcomb in the PFF season long top 10... it always feels like he’s playing great but I wasn’t sure if I had my homer glasses on. What a find... now we need his robin.

each week I keep saying “okay nice win, but this game is the real test,” but I mean it this time. If this D can shut down the Seahawks then it’s official... more official than it already is.

9 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

That’s because a lot of posters on this board didn’t realize, or want to admit, the entire defensive coaching staff would be unqualified to coach at a division III school let alone an NFL team.  Sweat (and everybody else) has been misused because of the football morons running the defensive side of the ball since 2010. 
 

Now that there are professionals in the room, some of the same players are playing better.  Who would have figured?

No doubt. But the critiques were not about him being misused, they were flat out saying that we reached, wasted a pick, there was a reason he was falling out of the first round, he had no explosion, got pushed around, and that it set us back. Even in the 2020 draft thread people were wishing they didn’t give away the 2nd rounder.

1 hour ago, TryTheBeal! said:

I don’t wanna dig through the thread.  Were there a bunch of Sweat haters?

 

Kid has been great since about week 10 of last year and the trajectory is still going up.

I can’t say haters, but there were quite a few who called him a bust and a waste of an extra draft pick after only a handful of games. 
 

absolutely loving watching him realize his potential.. and he has plenty more.

Ohhh how many people on this thread look like idiots right now...

WaPo just don’t quit... the name is changed, the employees who were complicit with the harassment claims are no longer with the team, we have a minority head coach and president... we know, there has been a lot of ****tiness with this franchise in the past from the top down, but unless you have a real story can you just give it a rest and let the team and fan base lose in peace?

6 hours ago, TD_washingtonredskins said:

 

Exactly right. Nothing changes at a macro level until Snyder is forced to sell. 

That day would bring me an emotion that I haven’t felt since my first born... But it’s merely a pipe dream.

that being said, it seems very clear that things have changed, at least temporarily. Snyder was scared straight and seems to have done everything above and beyond to be change his ways and in a way, become less unlikeable. 
 

he’s tricked us before, we’re a jaded fan base, but whatever is happening with team feels very different.