TheGoodBits

I'm old enough to remember when Dan Snyder tried to hire a head coach with experience and then he read the message boards and we ended up saying hip hip hooray for a few weeks before we hired a bingo caller to call plays.

Slightly more direct connection but if Matt Ryan wanted to be our QB coach that would be cool.

He went to the playoffs the following year. Matt Ryan got old. It happens.. windows close.

Think of this like like you are interviewing candidates for a job in your own profession. Would you be biased toward people who have never done the job before, but have the right skillset for it? Or would you interview people who might have already done the job (even if they had a mixed bag of success)? Generally speaking, job experience is a good thing. Even if that experience includes some failures. People learn from their experiences and improve the next time they get a chance. NFL has their weird dynamic where coaches get one shot with one organization and then get buried down the list of candidates in the future because everyone is trying to get lucky and hire the next McVay. I know nothing (personally) about Quinn other than he had coached top defenses in Seattle and Dallas, and took Atlanta to a super bowl. He's had enough success in his career that it's not crazy to think he could be a better coach here than he was in Atlanta.

There was no way it wasn’t being included in the sale. That’s a valuable asset for Angelos. The hope has to be the new owners are more willing to reach a settlement.

We could do a lot worse than Quinn. He's got a wide depth and breadth of experience and hiring him would make a key rival worse. He's been an excellent DC at two different gigs, and took a team to a super bowl. Yeah he floundered toward the end with Atlanta but a lot of that might have been Matt Ryan just getting old.

My somewhat controversial QB ranking is Maye, Williams, McCarthy, Daniels. Big caveat that the knock on Caleb is only related to some of the personality/coachability concerns. If your interview process with him makes you feel good, he’s hands down #1.

Trumped/trump Cannot for the life me figure out why.

Let’s put it this way. Goff put up great stats with Mcvay and Mcvay dumped him (and won a Super Bowl with his replacement). Goff is who he is. He’s ok. He can distribute the football well. He’s never going to wow you and make the kind of individual plays that can change the game. The fact Johnson can say he “improved” Goff over even the stats he had with Mcvay speaks volumes to his chops as an OC.

Actually I think it makes perfect sense. Hurts is a decent quarterback and manages the game nicely for them in an offense that is stacked with playmakers. But he's not a real difference maker at the position. Eagles also have a history of selling high with QB (Bradford when they traded up for Wentz, Wentz when they moved on to Hurts). And look, Hurts being an established QB already that would be an upgrade over Fields absolutely would give them a possible leg up over other trade offers. Hurts, this year's 1st, and two future 1sts for #1 overall? That's not a bad trade for Chicago if they think Hurts could take them to the next level.

Langford got promoted to AA and hit over .400, then earned himself a couple games in AAA at the end of the season. I suspect both will be quite good players. I'm not worried about Crews hitting his little slump.

Be careful what you wish for. That would be BY FAR the best job available and Ben Johnson would be dumb to not take it if offered. And his scheme with the Eagles talent would be brutal for a long time.

Not comparing any candidates, just noting a preference not to disqualify people solely based on having previous head coaching experience. Reid might not be the best example given his long tenure at the Eagles, but across the league there is absolutely a trend to hire young, up and coming coaches, and if you commit to only doing that you could miss on someone experienced and good.

Agree with all of this. People are really quick to dismiss “retreads”, candidates who have had head coaching opportunities in the past and failed. But there is a ton that has to go right for an organization to the successful longterm, and people who have been elevated to the role and experienced it not working absolutely have a better appreciation of what is needed than those getting their first opportunity. That’s really valuable experience imo. As much as everyone wants to find a Mcvay, maybe an Andy Reid ends up being the right answer.

IMO the age isn’t a huge deal, you just have to understand going in that he's not getting a second contract (which honestly is probably a good philosophy for RBs in general). There’s a lot of RB talent available around round 3 and there’s an argument to be made that you should draft one in that range every 2-3yr, just letting the others walk at the end of their rookie deals.

Honestly really nervous Chicago has the same read on Caleb and goes with Maye.

I think it's some combination of Scot being the cult hero and getting all the credit for their success, plus the fact that he was a raging alcoholic and gave himself ample opportunity to be fired. He hasn't been hired by anyone since then.

I don’t see Vrabel making it out of this cycle without a HC job. Unless he decides he doesn’t want one with the teams that have openings. Seattle is a logical spot for Quinn but Vrabel would be a good fit there too.

I will be so furious if he ends up in Dallas but honestly that seems like a good fit if they exit early and they move on from McCarthy.

I kind of like Vrabel and Carroll being out because the Seahawks and Patriots are viewed as pretty stable, well run franchises, and therefore legitimate competition for any top coaches. That there seem to be really logical reunion destinations for Quinn and Vrabel (if Belichick steps down) could open us up for landing our pick from the next wave of options like Johnson. Also Quinn departing Dallas could help us a lot.

Caleb Williams falling to 2 would make me so insanely nervous. Which is guess is why Maye is in the convo for #1.

I'm 99% sure McCarthy is a first rounder and due to positional value could end up in the top 10. So the trade back scenario would concern me a bit if they were targeting him. Ton of QB needy teams in the top 10 and some just outside it that could move up. But that trade back scenario could end up netting some really premium picks. It's a supply/demand game so if there are multiple teams interested in moving up and Chicago is sitting tight, the #2 pick will be a huge premium. If we moved back to 3 or 4 (Zona or NE) we could end up with MHJ and maybe one or two extra 2s (depending on demand). Assuming we won't trade with the Giants, the Titans at 7 would be the next partner I would look at. I think moving back from 2 to 7 would net a decent haul including a future 1, which could end up being a high 1 next year with TN firing Vrabel. But the new coaching staff might be looking to make a move for a QB so that's a real possibility. At 7 you might be in the range for McCarthy but it would absolutely not surprise me if he's the 4th QB off the board and goes to NYG at 6 (or honestly, NE at 4 would not surprise me at all either, taking him over Daniels). You get similar results trading down to 8 (Atlanta), or 10-13 (Jets, Vikings, Broncos, Raiders) but the further you move down the less likely it is McCarthy is still there. I feel like Atlanta moving up has a good enough team that an offensive head coach plus the #2 pick could end up with them having a good season, so that future 1st wouldn't be as valuable. Jets likely won't move up with Rodgers under contract next year. Titans would be my preferred partner outside the top 5. I'm not sure Drake Maye solves their issues this offseason, and they could be heading for a top 5 pick next year. edited to add: Chargers would be a sneaky trade partner at 5. I doubt they do it but I could see them moving up to 2 to give Herbert a legit weapon in MHJ and absolutely blowing up people's draft boards in the process.

Players appreciate playing for him https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2024/01/04/detroit-lions-aaron-glenn-top-defensive-coordinator-nflpa-survey-dave-fipp/72108583007/

Watching Josh Allen hit those 20-30 yard downfield throws right on the sidelines last night on their last TD drive.. man. Having a QB with the ability to hit those throws really opens up what an OC can do. And you definitely see some of that with Maye.

That injury timeout was absolutely killer. Fully expect the Texans to score on this drive.