Inigo Montoya

Yea just ignore, made me read pages of BS thinking there was some real news/ discussion. TH needs to be replaced as a starter and kept as a really good backup. Back on topic, Jimmy G was such a mixed bag Sunday. I know he’s a little banged up, but I am not excited at the prospect of him on this team. Plus K Shanny can make almost any QB look better than they actually are.

You also have to stop Brady… but I agree, have to solve the QB problem. By whatever means necessary

I love the idea of Carr, ain’t happening. He doesn’t seem to want to leave, if there was noise that he wanted out I would start to get my hopes up. I guess the hope is the new staff doesn’t want to pay him?

trade 11 and Payne plus maybe a 3rd rounder in 2023 to move to 4 and get Howell or Corral Draft the QB and sign Allen Robinson is my perfect storm… T Mac , D Brown C Sam and A Rob???!!! draft a stud RB in 3-5 rounds and go with BPA where we could use depth LB, CB, O Line in the 2nd

based on what, in what world is RR underperforming? FedEx field took out two QBs, Stafford didnt want to come here. What's his biggest issue? Jamin Davis? I'll hold off judgement until he's properly aligned knowing RR and Co had to try and play him out of position due to the need at MLB. None of the Washington Circus is his fault, the dude fought cancer and the team loves him.

I think you add Payne to the trade to lower next year's first to a lower pick and I would subscribe to that, because its a poor allocation of resources to the Dline to resign him.

I'm really surprised by this thought, Ron will be here. He will be here unless the whole locker room implodes. He's literally the only reason any player would come here other than a serious overpayment, he will be extended next year.

Get the dude in the draft, we don’t have to move into the top 3 to get a guy this year. We have players and picks we can trade and our cupboard isn’t bare. Yeah we have holes to fill, but so does every team. And we’re in great shape if sweat/young produce like they’re supposed to. If Logan Thomas and Curtis Samuel play, we had awful luck this year. Trade up to wherever we have to go get corral or Howell. I think that’s the 4 spot

This is my assumption as well, trade 11 plus our 1 next year or some combo of a 2 next year and Payne I would try to keep Sweat if possible, edge rushers are much harder to replace.

For sure, we're playing keyboard GM right now... for me it's an allocation of resources question. And I'm good with TH as a backup/1-4 game bridge. I think he's a serviceable backup for the rest of his career. Other injuries, covid, tough schedule all played a hand in losing. I want to replace him as a starter. If coaches don't think he should be a #2, then go get Mariota and either way plan for a splash in the draft.

By all means, give me Watson (without legal troubles) or Wilson. I'm in, buying the commanders jersey (****ing hate the name) and flying across country to see games. I'm ****ing in! But I dont think we're a preferred destination and its going to take a big turnaround to get there, which is going to require drafting well. I think Taylor is a great backup and has earned it, Allen is a pretty darn good back up too. We're so used to our starter going down and playing backups that its hard to see, most backup QBs aren't getting you to the playoffs, that's not their job. Its to keep the team afloat until the starter comes back. Over allocating resources to backup QBs doesn't seem like the way to build a winner. Would the raiders rather have Mariota or another starting receiver for Carr?

If you trade up to say 4, you're going to get one of your top 2 Qbs . These trades are often worked out before the draft And I'm totally good with spending the $$$ on Mariota, the question is are we better off spending there or giving say Allen Robinson a 1 year prove it deal after his down year?

1. We aren't getting a top QB via a trade 2. The QBs in the draft seem to have more ? marks this year, though I like Corral and Howell a lot 3. a Vet like Mariota + 1st Rd QB seems to be the smartest route to insure you get quality play from the position and make a run with our roster. Mariota unfortunately headlines the vet FA market, unless you like Mitchy T I think we can survive by resigning Allen, rolling with TH as a backup and drafting in the 4-8 range.

Which is why you don't wait until 11 I think we have the space to go get a Mariota plus fill holes and I subscribe to this as long as it's not too rich.

I for one think thats going to be the case, I think they land on Corral or Howell and there's no guarantee that one is left at 11 and they move up to get their guy. and I think they should, the most important position on the field, take your swing here. On the vet topic: I like the idea of having Mariota and a 1st rounder, but I'm ok with a 1st rounder TH and Allen too, it's cheaper and both can play in spot duty if needed. Spend resources on the FS/MLB holes, go get another vet WR.

Sure, but I'm assuming after scouting them that only 1 or 2 of those will end up being the guy(s) they want... that would require a trade up to be sure you get him. And this is the year I want to be sure we get the guy that our team thinks could solve the QB problem.

Why? we do this song and dance every year. If it means giving up a future Daron Payne or Jamin Davis to possibly solve the QB problem, you do it.

Agreed on Mariota, I was in on him last year too if he was going to be traded. I assume he's an actual FA this year? Why do we have to wait until 11 to pick a QB? I still say make a trade up to 4 or wherever reasonable and grab your guy. It won't be an RG3 haul and since there's no consensus 1-3 QBs you have no idea what the teams in front of you are going to do.

I absolutely love Wentz, but I have no idea what happens when he has games like he did last week. He can be soooo bad, a little bit like Fitz maybe? I think I have the first year Wentz stuck in my head and maybe he's never going to be that again?

We have to draft the guy, trade whatever you have to to be in position to draft your guy or have multiple options for where you move up to. I think we have to move up and we have to draft, too much young talent on this team to break up now- keep the cap space to pay guys and bring in a MLB. I like all 3 of the top QB options and they are an upgrade over our QB play the last two seasons No reason to be gun shy about this route, there’s just as much risk going the veteran route, plus it costs you more cap and maybe even more draft resources. watson, legal troubles wilson, aging, injured and didn’t look great down the stretch rodgers, could hang it up at any time. Amazing talent and total liability for the future and so on

Yes as others have said I think we need to draft a stud running back/ even if it’s just to keep using Gibson the way we have but split his carries. I would argue that Patterson is expendable and we need one of the best backs out of this draft. I wanted to draft Najee Harris over Davis this last draft

QB in the first, might require a trade up so assuming we won’t have a 2nd rounder. we need a bruiser of a RB, who’s everyone’s favorite round 3-5 RB? I would personally love to see Rodriguez from KY. I’ve read he’s a 5th round prospect, but that seems low to me

Man you can tell a difference in AG's game when Scherff is in there, like clockwork... makes me want to keep him. but this BS about his agent and the team pisses me off. Reeks of Cousins all over again, if you want to be here then tell your agent to get the best deal you can to stay. You'll be a multi millionaire forever

Ron aint going anywhere, thats crazy talk. He's literally the only positive we have, the NFL looks at us like a laughing stock except for him. I want Corral, trade up to 4 and make sure you don't miss. 2 1s and next year's 2, hopefully that gets us from 11 to 4? Tough son of gun, dual threat, played against the best competition in the NCAA and I love that he decided to play in that bowl game... teammates love the guy, sounds like a more talented version of what we have here. I think you keep TH and Allen

We destroy the giants and people **** and complain about draft position