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2 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Why did you truncate my post and ignore that I wrote:

 

I am not beating the drums for Howell more I want 2 young QBs in the pipe.

 

Let it go indeed

You've been chasing after Howell like a common hoo-ore for pages now.

Frankly, I'm depressed and ashamed.

22 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Elephant in the room, does the new brass like Howell at all?  Quinn had a first hand look at him of course, as did Peters. Unfortunate for Sam, the 3 games they saw last year was after the wheels came off the wagon and we were in basic free fall with the season long awkwardness of Ron slow walking the plank finally leaving even the players a complete mess.

 

Why are you so desperate to salvage something from Howell here?

I will never understand the weird relationships fans develop with the most random players.

Let Howell go, man. If he truly loves you, maybe one day, he will return to you.

4 minutes ago, oraphus said:

So if i put on my tin foil hat.. to me you bring in Mariota to possibly start at the beginning of the season, what that means for the #2 pick?? you decide..

I tend to go with the conventional wisdom that it means that Daniels is the pick, because Daniels is the one guy you probably don't start from Game 1. If you draft Maye, you are probably starting him immediately which means his backup is the guy who is going to be chasing a starting job until he is 53 years old.

But I don't know nothing about nothing, and I can never remember Daniels' name.

3 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

As for Howell, if a team wants to give him a shot to compete for a job and this team can get decent draft capital in return then I gather the idea is why not get a young player, especially if its a 3rd rounder who can be part of the future of the team.

No one wants to give Howell a shot at being a starter and no one is trading a third rounder for him.

Nothing amuses me so much as how much we overvalue the bad players on our terrible team and undervalue the good players on our terrible team.

Howell is a dude. I think he's likely to move on in some way, because it's just kinda weird to go from starter to third strong over the course of an off-season. But there's no demand out there for him. Mason Rudolph has the "career backup whose market value will never be higher" market cornered, and no one wants Mason Rudolph.

2 hours ago, Going Commando said:

 

Yep.  It was a huge part of UNC's offense, and it was almost their entire running game in '22.  Drake led UNC in rushing that year, and had 13 attempts per game.  He's a Josh Allen level runner at the position, and does stuff similar to Allen like jumping over people.  His running style is going to translate to the NFL and be sustainable.  It's a tertiary tool for him, and he is a big guy with athleticism.  A lot of the types of rushes that Jayden lived on will not translate to the NFL.  All of those big middle field runs are going to be so much riskier for him.  They will get him hurt and it won't take long.  He's also going to have to actually stay behind the line of scrimmage and throw the ball when he doesn't like the defensive look.  He's not going to be able to run to avoid NFL throwing windows like he did at LSU.

But can he average 700 yards per year as that one guy here projected for Howel when he decided that Howell was the greatest running QB of all time?

Who was that guy? He was funny.

2 hours ago, FootballZombie said:

 

The conversation has turned to comparing Daniels to Fields not as an NFL QB but as he was coming out. Additional information was necessary, otherwise you'd just have to take my word for it when I say JD was better.

 

 

 

No one cares!

4 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:

 

 

3273 yds 41 TDs 3 INTs 484 Rush Yds 67% Comp and 9.2 Y/A

vs

3812 yds 40 TDs 4 INTs 1134 Rush Yds 72% Comp and 11.2 Y/A

 

 

 

Oh God...... no one gives a **** about these dumb college stats.

Why would you even post these?

Why don't you put up Mahomes numbers at Texas Tech to further confuse whatever point you think you are making?

10 minutes ago, The Consigliere said:

Yes you can, the Packers spun all sorts of value out of drafting and developing and then trading guys (Hasselbeck, Flynn, can't remember what they got, if anything, for Favre when Rodgers took over), over and over and over again for nearly a decade. It's true you can't give a guy all the reps you want for them to have a better chance of hitting, but when it comes to QB, it makes sense to invest in the position to develop value, both due to injury rate, for trade, and if you hit on a guy whose better than your in house guy. 

 Favre and Rodgers were starters for a combined 56 years. You can do all sorts of weird things in the back end of your Quarterback Room when the starter is basically an NFL sea turtle.

Everyone has spent three months building out an Extended Commanders Universe where Howell is the backup, and now everyone is scrambling to retcon things with Mariota.

People get married to players for the damndest reasons and then get married to storylines about those players.

Remember that weird British guy who really loved Bill Callahan? He used to do **** like this.

3 minutes ago, Llevron said:

Coaches literally talk about playbooks as learning new languages. No one learns a new language talking to themselves. Its not a hard concept and it is a proven way to learn. Im not sure why its causing so much consternation lol 

 

This is why you sign America's Baby Sitter - Marcus Mariota. He's going to work with the rookie and find him a church with a great Young Adult program and hook him up with an incredible vegan chef.

The Cousins pick was especially weird because we took him relatively high in the fourth round.

He was not a 6th or 7th round flyer. A high fourth rounder is a spot where you still have hope of drafting a starter/high end backup/special teams stud. We took a QB knowing that we were going to be insanely short of draft picks going forward.

The Cousins pick was entirely Mike Shanahan walking around Ashburn with a large erection demanding that people stare at it.

5 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

But don't teams with a young established QB often draft a late round developmental QB?  That could be Howell only he has proven he can play. If nothing else perhaps as injuries occur during the season a team may overpay for him if they lost their first 2 QBs.  I just think his value to this team is higher than the pick they would get for him because he's so damned cheap and can play in this league. 

Teams draft late round QBs to be a third string QB because they don't want to spend any actual money on a third string QB and once every three or four years, one of those guys flashes in a pre-season game and the team is all "yea....we meant to do that."

2 minutes ago, skinny21 said:

This is one thing I keep coming back to - just psychologically speaking, teaching 2 guys at the same level could potentially make a big difference.  I’m reminded of Whitt talking about having a separate meeting for young guys so they feel like they can speak up more than they might around veterans.  Not saying it’s necessarily the ideal route, but I can see a benefit for sure.  

It's dumb. No one does this. 

Starters get like 75 percent of the snaps in practice. Backups get 25 percent. Sam Howells throw on the sidelines with the guys on IR.

3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

You don't try to develop two QBs at once, that's dumb. You draft a guy, you commit your entire franchise resources to his development. One guy. That's it.

 

That's why we're trading Howell. He's just as much a developmental project as whoever we'll take at 2.

We signed Mariota. So maybe we are going to develop one QB into a starter and one into a Christian missionary.

3 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

I think Cousins is a good example of this happening. Is this responsible for his success? Probably not. I still like the idea though. 

I'm fairly certain Kirk was drafter purely out of spite, which makes the fact that he is worth (checks notes) $14 Billion all the funnier.

They are going to take Howell into the woods, open the car door and let him run free.

2 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

I will never understand the hate Kirk gets, not just here but throughout the league.  Far more hate than comparable QBs such as Carr or Jimmy G. He maximized his position and leveraged that into a fortune, isn't that was America is all about?  

I just find it endlessly amusing that Kirk Cousins is probably going to retire as the most heavily-compensated NFL player ever, and I'm pretty sure I have a nicer house after watching him on Netflix.

1937 pages of quarterback talk....and no one saw this coming at all.

You've all wasted your lives.

You have no idea what anyone is doing ever.

They are probably going to draft McCarthy now since they essentially just signed McCarthy But He's Old.

I don't know anything either. But I know I don't know.

2 hours ago, DWinzit said:

Was Payton always a Dbag or has he just grown into that over the past few years?

1. Scab QB

2. Bountygate

3. Still holds a grudge against the Bountygate snitch.

4. Possible pill head.

5. Almost certainly covered up for a pill head who was possibly him.

6. Fired the guy who accused him of being a pill head.

7. Divorced his wife for Kenny Chesney's ex

8. Clearly knows a plastic surgeon who will take payment in stolen pills/Saints tickets/Kenny Chesney tickets..

28 minutes ago, woodpecker said:

Wtf. Love to know what I said to trigger this childish comment.

Being bad at posting. Be better.

19 hours ago, woodpecker said:

I don’t think anybody is embracing mediocrity. I agree we should take the swing at a QB, but I don’t agree that cashing in for the draft capital haul is a one-way ticket to mediocrity. If you want to judge it against the clown show we’ve had here the last 25 years, then sure. But there are many ways to skin a cat, and with a great GM like an Adam Peters and no more Snyder to meddle, it is possible to find that franchise QB another way. I think we need to get out of the mode of thinking our team is too dysfunctional to keep all options open. Again, I’m all for staying at 2 and taking a QB, but at some point there is a price where I would trade down. I don’t see it as embracing mediocrity, I see it as embracing a properly run organization. But just to flip it around, could one not argue that not going all in on a trade up for Caleb is embracing mediocrity?

Your opinions are bad, and no one likes them.

17 minutes ago, Est.1974 said:

I think we should keep a very open mind with regards to our approach at QB, there’s a long way to go yet….

That's dumb.

1 minute ago, Est.1974 said:

What’s clear is the opinion on these QBs is incredibly divided on all fronts. You stated people on here are prepared to settle for mediocre ? Why is that ? Because they don’t agree with you ?

I don't think opinion is that divided. There is a military industrial complex in football that is designed to generate ungodly amounts of attention on the draft. 

I don't see this as complicated. Harrison is the best player in the draft and seems like someone who will eventually make the HOF, but he plays a position that is completely dependent on another player.

The QBs are fairly simple.

1. Williams is far and away the best and may be one of those "every five years, a superstar is born" guys.

2. Is either Mayes or what's his name from LSU depending on whether you like big arm/white guy hustle or "good lord is that person a superhuman athlete...."

3. Is either Nix or Penix depending on who you liked watching more in college.

4. Is the guy from Michigan who I think may actually suck but also may win 10 games as a rookie, because sure, why not.

Buy my draft guide.

22 hours ago, veteranskinsfan said:

My point here is just to curb some of the enthusiasm.  If Peters makes a wrong decision at quarterback how will this fan base react?  How will this Board

react?  Of course he makes the right pick at quarterback then the fan base and this Board will be riding a super high.  The draft in many ways is a crap shoot.

All teams are forced to take the good with the bad.  Historically our franchise has been bad when it comes to picking quarterbacks in the first round.

If he ****s up this pick, we hate him and want him fired and deservedly so. I've been ****ing about this team on this board for 19 ****ing years. This board has a body count. People have died waiting for this stupid team to be good again.

You have the #2 pick in what I'm told is an amazing QB draft. Don't **** it up, or I will hate you. The end.

48 minutes ago, The Consigliere said:

 

 

What about Klingler? Kerry Collins? Ryan Leaf, Cade McCown, and Boat Bum Culpepper (one of my fav QB prospects from the late 1990s). 

 

I don't think you watched football in the 90s and early 00s.

On 2/27/2024 at 9:20 AM, Spaceman Spiff said:

Is @Lombardi's_kid_brother still around?  He was a few weeks ago.   Good opportunity for him to remind us how smart he is, right here.

Hey.....go **** yourself.

13 hours ago, Twelfth man said:

Where are your top 2-3 places to sit in Fedex Field and why you like that section of the stadium? Also what are your recommendations of things to try to do when you come to a game?

 

Thanks in advance for your advice.

 I'm always fascinated by these questions, because I'm honestly not sure if you know where this monstrosity is.

If you are looking for fun stuff to do new the stadium, you got yourself a Wendy's and a 7-11.

If you are looking for fun stuff to in the DC metro area over a weekend, that's a much different discussion.