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  1. Giving up Crawford would make that a horrible trade. Maybe throw in next years second... But that's it.

    err, not sure if you are serious. Crawford is one of the most inefficient chuckers in the league. He doesn't fit well next to wall, and he would probably destroy any chemistry we get going with the 2nd unit. I'd rather he just not play, and if by trading him I can get rid of Blatche, I'm all over it.

  2. Why would we get rid of any decent players for a bad contract? Just amnesty Blatche and call it a day. We have a glut of bigs right now we don't need Charlie V at all.

    I would rather it be as simple as amnestying him, but if management starts to pinch pennies I see trading for Charlie as the best scenario we can come up with. Use him as an emergency big or something, he doesn't necessarily have to get PT.

  3. Pleased that cartier is back, he can be solid backup SF for us. His initial role should be 3rd string or maybe try to get him some time at 2 as well. Chris Singleton needs to show considerable improvment to not lose playing time to him IMO.

    Regarding Blatche. I would definitely pull the trigger on Charlie. He can function as a stretch 4 and his contract is up in '14. I think he would have to include incentives for Detroit though. I'd do AB+JC+'13 2nd rounder plus w/e filler they got coming back to us. Maybe if they've given up on austin Daye swap him with Singleton as well.

  4. I've said it elsewhere, Wall is a respectable jumper away from making it no contest IMO. Kyrie is a great talent and the statistics back it up. I have to think, the Cavs as an organization gave him a better chance to succeed early on. You are also comparing two rather different styles in PG play. Kyrie comes off more as a scoring PG. I see more Rose in Kyrie (except w/o the elite athleticism but somehow more efficient) than CP3. Wall will never be a scoring threat, I don't think he will ever average more than 22ppg, nor should he. The difference in defensive play is also quite stark. Kyrie isn't a bad defender, just rather average. Wall turned the corner in that department in my eyes last season. He can play lock down D and plays very good help D. His concept of team defense does need to improve, but with competent teammates in town now, I figure that transition won't be as big a issue. Still, it just comes down to Wall's ability to acquire a reasonable jumper, it is a make or break 3rd year for him.

  5. A lot of it is contingent on development. There will be busts in drafts, that's just the way the statistics go, but if you give players opportunity to play I'd say that chance goes down. M. Gasol was pretty much solidifying his spot in Memphis so drafting Thabeet seemed odd on Management's part itself if you ask me. The best they could have done for him was send him to the D-League...and for a player his size I'm not sure that would have help him.

    Williams is getting more playing time than thabeet really ever got, but again, the fit is weird for the type of player he is IMO. He was a dominant college scorer and he's been asked to take a back seat to Love (understandably) Pek, and if Batum comes to town, probably him too. I don't know, I'm a big believer in giving young players the right "fit" so they have an honest chance at developing. Look what happened to seraphin, he took advantage of his abilities and shined brilliantly.

  6. The difference between the NFL and NBA is funny. In the NFL, JaMarcus Russell gets 3 years. In the NBA, one year in and the #2 overall pick is already being shopped. Is it that it's just easier to just KNOW in basketball?

    might be that, also might be that management may realize the "fit" of a player is bad. QB is also bad comparison, that is THE position in the NFL you invest yourself in, you have to give it time. Any position can garner a dominant player in the NBA. Probably more comparable to Devin Thomas (or any other young WR), the talent is there...but more than likely it will never manifest on our team...or in thomas' case...anywhere...

  7. Regarding D. Williams, I'd wait to make an offer to them. If they do end up doing a sign and trade for Batum, that is a clear slap in the face to Williams. If they don't Williams has some playing time opened up to him at the 3 spot right now with Beasly out, at least that is the way I see it. Williams isn't even that great of a shooter so I'm not sure being a stretch 4 is his best bet. I wouldn't trade the farm for him, and in the off chance their center Pekovich doesn't have a great year again they may be in the market for a center...I'd gladly deal Okafor+pics for williams. Pek is also an UFA as I recall and the wolves might consider having a contingency plan.

    Looking at it realistically, I don't see Portland giving up Batum..So the wolves may run with a lineup of:

    Rubio

    OJ/Roy

    Williams/Budinger

    Love

    Pek

    I'd offer C. Singleton, JC, '13 1st pic and probably thats it. Williams is a true tweener and I could him playing side by side booker if possible. Booker is also the better player right now, but his health concern is an issue. If it took Booker to get him, I'd probably bite but it would be a gamble...

  8. I think they'd be willing to part with him too. They have surplus shooters. They probably need more in the way of defenders and facilitators.

    I like Rush's pure catch and shoot ability. He was one of the best catch and shooters in the league last season. Check this out: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=single&year_id=2012&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=JUMP_SHOT&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q1=Y&q2=Y&q3=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=12&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=&margin_max=&c1stat=fga&c1comp=ge&c1val=75&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=fg_pct

    He was 10th in the NBA in jump shot % among players who took at least 75 jumpers. He made 100 threes. But a high percentage of his makes were assisted buckets (.837). He's a pure catch and shooter. He'd be perfect for our offense.

    I have no doubt he's worth the money he'd command with the MLE. ~5 million per year is a bargain for a shooter like that. Those guys have typically commanded about ~7 million per year (think J.J. Reddick).

    It's the length that bothers me more. I don't know about making a four year commitment when we've got so much looming on our horizon in two years. We need to be very careful in taking on any deals longer than 2 years. 2014 is going to be a momentous summer for us.

    So I checked what the status was on Rush on a Warriors board...apparently he is the FO's #1 priority and some of the homers would be asking for Beal, Nene, Wall :ols: I'd rather simply offer up the MLE and see if GS accepts.

  9. Is Rush an RFA or a UFA?

    Rush is a really good catch and shoot option. It's all he really does but last season he was one of the best in the NBA at it. Basketball-wise, the move makes sense.

    Ultimately I probably wouldn't go MLE for him. He's not changing our fortunes significantly IMO and I don't want to get stuck with him for four years.

    ---------- Post added July-5th-2012 at 05:56 PM ----------

    The Clippers are quietly putting together a strong offseason full of clever acquisitions. They'll contend next season.

    He is a RFA, fortunately GS may be open to a Sign and trade regarding him, that is my hope at least. I think their rebuild will take a little longer than ours...I would do something like...JC+ '13 2nd round pick for him. Having a rookie on a cheaper contract could be a good incentive to them. They have max guys like Lee+Bogut with them and I imagine Curry will comand at least 10 million. Biedrins isn't about to use an ETO on his contract either (unless it is a team option). They also just drafted Barnes, and have Thompson... they are probably willing to part with him.

    Now to whether or not he is worth a full MLE:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rushbr01.html

    dude is a solid shooter, and has solid size. He isn't much of a defender...but given his offensive abilities...I'd definitely give him a two year deal.

    Wall

    Beal

    Rush

    Nene

    Seraphin

    that is a very offensively competent squad. I don't think we'd lose much defensively either. The guy shot 45% from 3 point land, when there really wasn't anyone to draw attention from opposing defenses...I

  10. Dwight's adidas branding is his main reasoning for selecting certain markets. You think Dwight would consider competing against Nike with Kobe in LA? I don't see him going to LA. They don't have the current assets. Lakers would have to trade gasol for a temporary downgrade to like...houston for the assets to pull off the trade.

    We really need to push to be good this year. If we do make noise, we will attract some FAs. Cousins might be the most practical big man we could get but I want to see him and Wall improve some more before we bank on our future big three bing Wall+Cousins+Beal.

  11. I'm not a betting man, but if they finish 5th or better in the conference, it would be like a legitimate Bigfoot sighting.

    Miami

    Pacers

    Knicks

    Nets (if they acquire Howard)

    All teams expected to be considerably better. Knicks are up there on potential alone, I assume they will kind of figure it out. Toronto also becomes a playoff team with Nash but I'm not sure where they fit into the rankings with him yet. Boston can be a playoff team again, but you are kidding yourself if you think an older KG and Pierce are going to get any better. They more than likely will lose Allen so they won't have their 3 point shooting to bail them out. While they did retool a little in the draft, I though they needed to address a wing player before the bigs. I like Melo for them, although he won't be a factor early on. Sullinger is a wild card, he could either incredibly suck, or have great value for his slot.

    ATL can make the playoffs with teague, smith and horford...but I think they'd be best served tanking, and going for the Muhammad sweepstakes.

    I would venture to say we are on par with all the remaining playoff contenders in the east, Cavs, Bucks, Sixers, and maybe detroit this year. I honestly see it breaking down like this:

    1- Miami

    2-Pacers(if they keep hibbert)

    3- Celtics (i'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they make a big push)

    4-Knicks

    5-Nets

    6-Wizards

    7-Sixers

    8-Chicago

    If Nash goes to Toronto, they probably get the 6 seed and the seeding all falls one.

  12. Do people Understand that Durant and Westbrook are on the team? They really just want the rest of their players to be defensive guys hence Ibaka over Harden. Plus they would be getting Beal to replace him and is cheaper which is good for a team like the Thunder. Not that hard to comprehend

    OKC's biggest issue isn't it's wing production, it's low post points. OKC's big three make it easy on themselves in the regular season and pretty much coast to a contender like record but it isn't that easy to jump shoot your way into the playoffs. They'd better off with someone like Zellar IMO, especially if they amnesty Perkins.

  13. If Wall could actually develop a J he would be damn near close to a Westbrook clone. Now ask yourself, is a capped out team with Westbrook+Harden really going to contend in the east? This is all of course based on the notion wall will actually hit shots (I don't think he'll ever be as as good as Westbrook offensively). Even if Beal is 3/4ths the player Harden is, I'd rather have him at that salary, to help us contend and hopefully attract a REAL gamechanger in two years when contracts need to be addressed as Emeka will be coming off the books. Stand pat, take beal if given the chance or MKG and call it a successful draft. Trade Booker+32nd+C. Singleton for Houston's 12th pick and Take Ross. Dear **** I hate twitter rumors.

  14. For the whole trading up argument, I think it is safe to assume Booker should yield at least something in the 18th pick area simply by himself, if we couple in the 32nd and maybe Crawford we can expect....15-12 range...at least I would think that. If CHA doesn't trade their pick and we take Beal, I'd look for he best SF available at that range. We can buy a 2nd rounder later if we really want someone in the latter portion of the draft later. Most places have Ross going to the suns at 13, if we were to acquire the 12th I would pounce on the opportunity to run with Wall-Beal-Ross-Nene-Seraphin. If we can't acquire ross, I would go for either T. Jones or PJ III as a stretch 4 for us. Although I am just as happy sitting at 32 and acquiring Crowder. Possibly getting the 17th pick with booker and taking Q. Miller or Moultrie if he falls.

  15. If we draft Barnes, play him at 3, where he would be most effective. Don't make life harder on a rookie with absurd expectations than it ought to be. Incompetent front office alert.

    ---------- Post added June-27th-2012 at 04:33 PM ----------

    Lol

    I would have loved to seen his face in that exchange. If nothing else, we wizards fan did get to enjoy some quality comedy with McGee and Young, lol

  16. For all the praise i can give Davis, unless he puts on some weight, he won't survive in the post in the NBA. I think he would be in the bottom quarter of the league in terms of strength for bigmen. At worst they can expect an excellent pick and pop player with elite D. Cousins in the only big man in the league that could emulate Duncan's sort of offense, of course he would have to utilize his brain for that, that's his only set back.

    If Drummond does pan out, and he goes to Portland, they probably will be the team to contend with over OKC for some time to come. People really underestimate and forget how great LMA is. It is a shame he is stuck with Felton as his PG.

  17. how would MKG help our team? Seriously I know he is good, but he will not be beneficial to the team. Ariza is very good at defense, so is singleton so don't bring that up, we need an offensive win player. Which MKG is definitely not

    Ariza is mediocre in all facets offense. C. Singleton's issue is that he can only knock down WIDE open 3s. Chris is an OK defender but he still needs to show a lot more on that end IMO. Ariza is a good defender but he is upgradeable. MKG's only weakness as far as I'm concerned is 3 point shooting. He is good enough at slashing and ball handling where he can overpower smaller 3s. He plays excellent defense and his hustle would be unmatched on our team.

    ---------- Post added June-26th-2012 at 09:08 PM ----------

    Damn you quoted me quick

    Yah I came here to post the Gordon stuff and saw your thing...maybe I should lay off this thread for a while, I'm becoming far too anxious in how we'll **** things up, lol

  18. Brad Beal went 19th to Orlando, dayummmmmm

    ---------- Post added June-26th-2012 at 08:14 PM ----------

    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

    Detroit has traded Ben Gordon and a protected future first-round pick to Charlotte for Corey Maggette, league sources tell Y! Sports.

    One SF on their team, Jamario Moon. MKG time?

    Well...they can still drop to 4, and get MKG as long as Ernie has **** for brains. Cha has a good deal here IMO, especially if they play small ball. Kemba, Gordon, Henderson, T-Rob, and Biyombo is an OK start for them.

  19. nuposse re: Barnes & Granger,

    I can't find anywhere confirming Granger's current weight, 228 is usually what google comes up with. If we assume Barnes bulks up, that is attainable for him, but I'd rather that be later in his career as his game is predicated more on wing production. I'm going to to just address the Pau points because I don't vehmently disagree with your granger comments.

    Re: Pau, I think you're underestimating him. We have a lot of bigs, but not a single one of them are close to as good as Pau. Nene + Pau would be one of the best front courts in the game. Not only that, we'd be trading off some of our current front court players to get Pau, which would clear the deck for him. Either Okafor or Nene would pretty much be a necessity in any trade for Pau because of his contract.

    Wrong, Pau's best basketball is behind him. This is fact. Pau also has the luxury of playing next to the 2nd best center in the game. While I love seraphin I won't put him in top 10 consideration yet even with his stellar production in March/April. If such a trade were to occur, Okafor would be shipped out, Nene/Gasol would give us maybe 1/2 year window of being decent.

    Pau is also a skill player. He's going to be highly effective for a long time. He also doesn't have to be ball dominant to be effective, just like Nene. I wouldn't worry about his age. Our problem is his contract. He's only got two years on it and at this point, it's really hard to see someone like him signing an extension to stay here.

    Offensively he has 1/2 years of ability left. Our frontcourt defense would be atrocious though.

    We also have John Wall at point. He's a factor in all of this. He can score nearly at will from the perimeter and create opportunities for Pau in the same way Kobe Bryant did. It's not like Kobe is a particularly good shooter.

    Stop. In no way or shape in form, can you compare Kobe to Wall. I love wall's potential, but the only thing he does well enough right now is transition points and pretty damn good defense. I want to believe Wall will get better with his J, but until we see it, we have to assume it will be no where near how Kobe was when he was making his 2nd title runs.

    Getting an All Star big trumps the perimeter player just about every time. We can fill out the wings with replacement caliber shooters like Cartier Martin and still easily make the playoffs with a potential All Star big combo of Nene & Pau and Wall running point. From a basketball perspective, Pau would massive upgrade our team.

    He wasn't an all star last season, he won't be one now. If he gets elected to one it is because fans voted him in. He isn't a top 5 big...Guys I'd take before him: Howard, Dirk, Griffin, LMA, Love, Hibbert, Bynum, M. Gasol, Horford, Cousins...then it gets fuzzy, yah he doesn't make my top 10 even.

    The problem is from a team building perspective as I see it. Pau is not sustainable growth. He'd be gone in 2 years and we're not ready to seriously contend in that window. We'd blow what would be our last remaining high lotto pick in that time for something that wouldn't last long enough for us to grow as an organization.

    Even if Pau did stay, would you want a 34 year ol gasol? Younger players will be stronger and more athletic than him. He'd be relegated to be a pick and pop player with mediocre at best defense.

    One thing I will say though, the needs of the current roster need to be accounted for in the decisions we make because our enormous investment in John Wall is in danger of becoming stagnant. We need to make moves that facilitate Wall's development into a Superstar first and foremost. That means finding good shooters to be his running mates in both the short and long term. Third year means it's getting awful close to fish or cut bait time for Wall.

    The whole point of having an elite PG is to take most of the burden of offensive creation off of positions 2-5. We will always be a team that relies heavily on spot up shooting because Wall is so damn good at creating opportunities for those around him. We need guys who can convert on those opportunities, much more than we need guys who can put the ball on the floor and work magic. Wall isn't a spot up shooting point like Kyrie. He is much less potent working off ball unless its running cuts to the basket for finishes at the rim. Plus there isn't a soul in this class that comes close to being as dangerous a threat to get to the rack as John is.

    John does need to learn to finish better at the rim, although I think he gets shafted by the refs : /

    It's entirely possible that Harrison Barnes is a better Washington Wizard than Michael Kidd Gilchrist--even if MKG is a potential All Star for some other team. The guys have to fit best within our team structure long term.

    to go along with the theme of what kind of ball we can play. I see us becoming Memphis east honestly. Grind it out games with elite D. While seraphin and nene are not the same as marc and Z-Bo I think we can get better wing and bench play than them depending on this draft.

  20. That might get them Josh Smith. I have a hard time seeing them get a high enough pick out of somebody to build a package for Dwight Howard though. It'll take one of the top five guys in this class to build a deal around for Dwight IMO.

    Would anyone here trade 3 for all of their picks? I don't think I would.

    I'd consider it, if you could score Ross+PJ III+ T. Jones, I'd call that a solid first round. I'd only do it if Beal was off the board and we really weren't that high on MKG for some odd reason.

  21. Pau has serious skills. He's a good ball handler and terrific scorer with a ton of tools.

    Ball handler? I don't care about 7 footers who are most effective in the post. The fact is with him our team trades would have to be made, as there would be far too many big men

    I think Pau helps the guys around him more than they help him. Legit seven footers that play as hard as him and have as many skills as him are extremely rare. The West is loaded with PFs, he'd be an All Star PF in the East. And for the two seasons we'd have him, him + Nene and Wall is a surefire playoff core. Probably a mid seed in the East.

    This is nonsense for the wizards, because the guys that the wizards have, currently, cannot shoot. Everyone loses with us trading for Pau. Teams double him, and his old age he isn't overcoming being the focal point of opposing team's defenses.

    I actually think Harrison can be a quality, cognizant defender in time. I think he can defend 4s and 5s in the NBA. He's stacked and has good length and quickness. I think only Davis and MKG are more versatile and cognizant front court defenders. You won't see Drummond covering 3s and stretch 4s and I think it might be tough for Rob to do so.

    Meh, Harrison could be OK on defense, my biggest issue with barnes is his demeanor and intensity. If you watch his highlight vids you have reason to be optimistic but the guy didn't improve at all between his rookie and sophmore year. There seems to be no fire in him. Now if he were to discover that, I'd be dead wrong about him. Time will tell.

    The major difference between Granger and Barnes to me is the ball handling ability. Barnes is a bad ball handler. He can handle it well enough to finish in transition but he can't create from the perimeter. Granger is a good ball handler and can create from anywhere on the court.

    I never thought of Granger as a good ball handler to be honest. Barnes isn't awful either with his handles. He's ok but nothing to write home about.

    Granger is also a SF/PF hybrid, probably more so than Barnes. He's bigger than Barnes is and probably stronger. It looks like Barnes is getting projected mainly as a strict perimeter only player. I don't understand it personally, but that's what the talk of playing him at SG says to me. Personally though, I think he's got some natural PF skills.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Danny-Granger-86/

    Granger is nearly exactly the same build minus the paper athletic scores. Benches about the same too, but at least granger plays with a chip on his shoulder. I think Barnes will be better in attacking the rim than granger, for what it is worth, Granger's first two years weren't as good as barnes'.

    If almost Danny Granger is what we get out of picking Barnes, that's a damn good pick. I'd love to have a wing like that. He could fill a huge need.

    I wouldn't mind it if it was like the 4-6 pick. I just think Beal has better potential, as well as MKG. If we trade back and take barnes, I won't wine and piss and moan so long as we gain something else in the process.

    I would absolutely be more on board with taking Barnes if MKG wasn't also in this class. MKG's ball handling, motor, rebounding, and defending are so ahead of Barnes that it's really hard to justify Barnes over MKG in my mind. If a basketball player does 7 out of 10 things better than the other guy who does 3 of 10 better, but those three things are skills you currently need more than the other 7, who do you take?

    You take MKG, MKG can still develop his shortcomings. It is hard to teach a player intensity. Marvin Williams is what scares me from Barnes. Similar tools, athletic, decent looking shot, just didn't give a damn to be better than top 12 for a SF (for a 2nd overall pick thats kind of disappointing). The comical irony in that is I'd swap ariza for williams every day of the week

    Barnes > MKG: perimeter shooting, mid range creation, scoring from the FT line

    MKG > Barnes: finishing at the rim, rebounding, defending the post, defending the perimeter, ball handling, passing, hustling & being a spark plug

    What do you do?

    When you are building, you take potential. You can teach MKG how to shoot. Unless you plan to hire a shrink and light a spark under Barnes' ass :ols:

    Although I doubt we end up seriously regretting either pick. Both of these guys look like they are going to be terrific NBA players. I won't cry if we pick Barnes and MKG goes on to be an All Star when Barnes becomes a productive and important part of our team.

    I honestly think MKG has superstar talent. He's 6'7 230, with room to add on his frame. He could be a slashing forward and grow into 6'8 240lbs with high BBIQ. If he had slightly better handles we could have a slightly poor man's young LBJ. Sigh... It needs to be thursday....

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