Califan007 The Constipated

10 minutes ago, Chump Bailey said:

...that's probably not a small circle view behind closed doors if he's willing to say it this publicly.

Um, we're talking about the same Jim Irsay, right? lol...there is nothing he's not willing to say publicly.

And this should be in the other thread, my response included lol...

No matter who starts, just remember it can always be worse...

11 minutes ago, method man said:

 

No

 

 

Is that him "excoriating" the team?

I hate to admit it, but I can relate lol...

I expect another 28-10 laugher...

19 hours ago, SkinsFTW said:

I think Kerry Collins is still available. 

 

His arm is strong! Just what DD and RR like best!

Who's DD?...I'm drawing a blank.

1 minute ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

I'm not including the extremists.

If we included every fan opinion on earth, it would literally include every imaginable statement

Well you said the "most critical people"...wasn't aware you could get more extreme than that lol.

1 hour ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

Even the most critical people towards TH, have said that at worst, he's a "high-end backup".

Uh, no they haven't lol...maybe they said at BEST he is.

Worst I've heard/read was he doesn't deserve a spot on any NFL roster.

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

Breer been drinking again? lol...

9 minutes ago, zCommander said:

 

Why does tankathon has us listed at 12? I always go by their list to get the pick order. 

Edit: Looks like NFL.com has us at 9 though. You are right

 

I think it depends on what they use for strength of schedule...they may have also included the current records of future opponents, which I didn't use.

14 minutes ago, zCommander said:

 

Not according to our SOS though. 

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl

The strength of our schedule through the first 6 weeks is weaker than that of the Bears, Jags, and Steelers:

Us: .53

Bears: .54

Jags: .54

Steelers: .56

EDIT: and technically, the strength of schedules through week 6 only would look like this if I consider ties correctly:

Us: .53

Bears: .56

Steelers: .56

Jags: .59

1 hour ago, zCommander said:

With Denver losing tonight we are now picking at #12. 

Actually we'd be picking 9th if the draft were tomorrow...

2 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

I disagree.  If Wentz scrambles and takes a sack, Terry’s not going to the tent.

The way things have gone for this team, I wouldn't be so sure about that lol...

48 minutes ago, Captain Wiggles said:

 

Oh dear sweet baby Jesus keep RG3 away from Howell. 🚯

I was gonna laugh at this but, well, he did play next to Lamar...so lol...🤪

Re: the "Hive" talk...

When you have multiple ES posters starting their posts with "I'm not part of the Hive, but..."...to me it means the "Hive" talk is getting way too overblown.

29 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

 

He played terrible in this game.  A lot of 3rd and longs that didn't get converted.  

You're telling me! lol...

1 hour ago, mistertim said:

 

My "stance" is supported by Heinicke's play in the latter half of last season; he made my case for me. My "stance" is that his scrambling and escapability is overrated and that it didn't do much for him after teams keyed in on how to stop him last year, so we should stop talking about him as if he has some sort of secret weapon vs pass rush when last year proved that it wasn't the case.

Not your stance on Heinicke lol (I agree with much of it)...I meant your stance on me and what I was--in your eyes--trying to say.

12 minutes ago, HigSkin said:

 

It will be interesting to hear about Howell at practice now that he has an opportunity to take backup reps and not just scout team stuff.

I was thinking this, too...on the other thread (I think, anyway) I had said that Howell should be made to earn the #2 spot and thus any playing time instead of just playing him to "see what we have". I thought earlier today that, if Wentz is out for more than a week Howell is automatically given more opportunities in practice to do just that. And that might be what moves him up the depth chart even when Wentz gets back.

6 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

I never said I was paraphrasing anyone. I said the way you guys were talking about Heinicke made it sound like he was some master escape artist scrambler who could make poor OLs irrelevant. The best example of a guy I could think of who actually fits that mold is Russell Wilson (at least in his prime).

 

But sure, feel free to focus on the semantics of whether I was paraphrasing you or claiming that you ever said the name Russell Wilson, as opposed to the content of what I posted, which is that Heinicke isn't some amazing of a scrambler and he was completely overwhelmed last season when defenses learned how to stop him.

Um, I never said you were paraphrasing lol...I said I got admonished for doing so. The point I was getting across--which I guess I also have to explain--was, if you're gonna describe (or in my case, paraphrase) what someone is saying, you should quote it as well, and for the reasons I was told by mods.

Because what you claim I'm doing rings less true when it's coupled with what I actually said:

Me: "They've more than seen his escapability in broken-down pockets...and behind this line it's gonna be needed lol..."

You: "But you're talking about Heinicke as if he's some master escape artist scrambler who makes poor OLs irrelevant"

If your only argument against what I said is to exaggerate what I was saying and then argue against that exaggeration--coupled with the tired and lazy "semantics" retort--you're not making much of a case for your stance.

7 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

 

"I never said Russell Wilson!"

 

 

Sure, you guys never use anyone's name. But you're talking about Heinicke as if he's some master escape artist scrambler who makes poor OLs irrelevant. He's an ok scrambler at times, but nothing special. He also didn't scramble much last season and was completely overwhelmed later in the year after defenses figured him out, despite us having a pretty decent OL at the time.

 

You guys know exactly what you're doing. Stop playing dumb, please.

I once got admonished by mods for paraphrasing posters instead of quoting them so that people could see what they actually said in comparison to what I was claiming they said.

And your post right here seems incredibly reactionary.

I explained in response to KDawg (I think lol) what "escapability" is...you are free to quote that and pick it apart, or allow it to clarify my original post to you--which, by the  way, was little more than a funny tweet I thought I'd pass along lol...I gave you guys enough credit to realize it was meant as a joking exaggeration without an explanation needed. Because I don't understand the mindset that causes anyone--anyone--to turn that tweet into "lulz the 'hive' thinks Heinicke is Russell Wilson lol!!"...

1 minute ago, mistertim said:

The Heinicke Hive's revisionist history is friggin' weird. Talking about him like he's prime Russell Wilson or something.

 

Who did this?...I didn't see that post.

7 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Right, because last year the coaches weren't yelling to the media that they don't know why that **** wouldn't leave the pocket and run. It was an issue almost the entire year, but now somehow Heinicke is Jalen Hurts? GTFO with this crap. You forget the cowboys game when blitzers lined up right in front of him and he couldn't see them and then got sacked? What a ****ing joke.

Who the **** said anything about becoming Jalen Hurts?

I said "escapability" when the pocket breaks down. Guess what...you can escape a broken pocket and still not run past the LOS. Hell, you can even escape an almost instantly-broken pocket and still throw a pass...complete it, even...sometimes for TDs. It's true, seriously. And sometimes you can escape a broken-down pocket and simply keep the chains moving with a 4 yard scamper.

Wildest of all?...You don't need to become Jalen Hurts to do any of that stuff I just wrote lol...But for what it's worth, Heinicke was ranked 8th in terms of QBs with most rushing yards.