Chachie

Never too late to start man. Training any branch of MMA will whip you into shape quickly :whip:

HA! While I truly appreciate the message, I am not a fighting man. Just a life-long fan, thanks to a father who raised me on the love of boxing. I'll stick to the couch and enjoy the ride from there.

Like SU said he is a premier kickboxer, and K-1 vet. He called out Sylvia a couple years ago, but never got the fight.

This is Cro Cop's game. It should show us if he is still an elite kickboxer. If he is no longer that, than he is finished. He struggled with Knogo, he can't afford to do the same against LeBanner. On the other hand, if he knocks out LeBanner he has to be considered a feared striker again.

Lebanner is 6-3 265

Here is a highlight vid

Thanks to both of you. I had seen that one LeBanner KO where the opponent got up and got in his face after the ref stopped it and LeBanner dropped him for good measure.

Cro Cop sure doesn't get a break in the dangerous opponent department. He should warm up to a bout like this but he just keeps taking the big fights.

Also, Cro Cop vs. Jerome LeBanner is booked for DREAM on June 16th.

Cro Cop will have his hands full and we will see if he still has it.

Not familiar with LeBanner. Got any info, Bowski?

I just don't see how someone can neglect their cardio knowing they have a 15-minute fight coming up. You're supposed to train to fight one more round than you're scheduled to have that night.

Obviously Lutter trained for 1 round...maybe he thought he could just finish Franklin quickly?

Most of you guys actually participate in MMA. I'm a 41 yr old weakling who sits back and judges with no experience. I just know that dude was toast after the first takedown. His face was screaming, "Kill me now!"

Just in case you weren't sure how big of a douchebag Travis Lutter is:...

Yeah, he gassed in like 30 seconds. When he stood up from their first roll on the mat, he was done. From there it was a matter of time.

the last UFC they both said that Rampage loses his cool at Forrest during the season.

Should be funny because both are such big personalities and smart asses.

Rampage just loses it period this next one I think...:laugh:

That would indicate to me that his fighters keep on losing then.

i am looking forward to rampage getting pissed at forrest.

Did I miss a preview at the end?

UFC.com already changed UFC 85's main event to Werdum/Vera. Think they'll change it again? I'm sensing Mir vs. Herring or Lesnar vs. anybody.

Mir v. Herring would be sah-weet.

Captain Obvious reports tha Khalib Starnes has officially been cut from the UFC.

Here is the King, Dana "Good to be" White on the matter:

“He just doesn’t belong in the UFC and after his performance the other night, he should consider a new line of work.”

Another reason to love MMA. You get on your bike during a fight and you will ride into the sunset after. I really liked Khalib but he's just proven too soft too many times.

Herman vs Maia- Loves me some Ed Herman despite his blockheaded demeanor. Don't think I've seen Maia which doesn't mean I should ignore him but I gotta go with the stooge. Herman by G&P but not before almost getting submitted early.

Stout vs Clementi- Sammy KOs Rich.

MacDonald vs Doerksen- Is Joe a TUF fighter? Who cares. McDonald subs him.

Danzig vs Bocek- Mac by decision.

Bisping vs Mcarthy- The Count by decision.

Starnes vs Quarry- So hard to pick this one but I have to go with Quarry's toughness over Starnes' talent. I like both fighters a lot though. I think I'm actually rooting for Kaleb.

Franklin vs Lutter- I've already gone out on a limb and called Franklin a broken fighter. What a classy guy, what a good man for this sport but he cracks tonight and loses by rear naked choke to Travis, whom I haven't been impressed by yet. (Go Rich. I love ya man.)

The Main Event- Matt "the Terra" Serra defends his belt vs George St. Pierre-

I have a sig bet with SkinsOrlando on this one and I've got St. Pierre. Orlando wants to slap a sig on me pretty badly so I hope Matt's heavy hands and bullish groundwork don't make lightning strike twice in the octagon.

GSP by KTFO.

I went 5-3 on outcomes, once again not very good on "win by."

Ed Herman should be shown the UFC exit at this point. I'm shocked that Stout lost. I owe Rich Franklin a personal "my bad."

I should say first that my call on Rich franklin being a broken fighter was ridiculous.

Secondly, Kaleb Starnes has no heart.

Good night all. I'll tabulate and report on my picks tomorrow.

Debating whether to buy this or not. I've been disappointed more often than not with the PPVs lately.

Just ordered the fights and I'm getting PUMPED. I'll have to sneak peeks of Calzaghe/Hopkins throughout the night.

My new method has been to not see the weigh-in, ignore all MMA hype sites, and pick with reckless abandon. I've had a much better '08 than I did an '07, so here goes...

Herman vs Maia- Loves me some Ed Herman despite his blockheaded demeanor. Don't think I've seen Maia which doesn't mean I should ignore him but I gotta go with the stooge. Herman by G&P but not before almost getting submitted early.

Stout vs Clementi- Sammy KOs Rich.

MacDonald vs Doerksen- Is Joe a TUF fighter? Who cares. McDonald subs him.

Danzig vs Bocek- Mac by decision.

Bisping vs Mcarthy- The Count by decision.

Starnes vs Quarry- So hard to pick this one but I have to go with Quarry's toughness over Starnes' talent. I like both fighters a lot though. I think I'm actually rooting for Kaleb.

Franklin vs Lutter- I've already gone out on a limb and called Franklin a broken fighter. What a classy guy, what a good man for this sport but he cracks tonight and loses by rear naked choke to Travis, whom I haven't been impressed by yet. (Go Rich. I love ya man.)

The Main Event- Matt "the Terra" Serra defends his belt vs George St. Pierre-

I have a sig bet with SkinsOrlando on this one and I've got St. Pierre. Orlando wants to slap a sig on me pretty badly so I hope Matt's heavy hands and bullish groundwork don't make lightning strike twice in the octagon.

GSP by KTFO.

his fear started directly after A.Silva beat Nate Marquardt and Rich knew he would have to face him again. here is rich post-A.Silva/Marquardt:laugh: :

Absolutely and I remember noticing that as well. In that moment, Rich is saying, "Damn. My career is over."

I mentioned this vaguely already in this thread, but I'll go ahead and be clear about it now- Franklin is all class and heart, but he's done. Silva broke him and I think Lutter (who's not nearly as good as pre-Silva Rich) will beat him.

On one hand, he should be given a pass because he's only 2-0. On the other hand, look at who Brock Lesnar is being put up against.

Yeah Brock has taken the hard way in. No offense to Kimbo Slice, but Frank Mir would mop the octagon with him.

Those noises are what made it so bad, I felt pretty bad for him and you could tell everyone else did too, the whole gym -including Dana White/Rampage/Forrest- were speechless.

And he didn't even remember what happened, he was asking the EMS guys if it happened in practice or in a fight, and then he asked Rampage where he was.

That was scary. Dude was on Mars for a night.

No one wants to train with Kenny Florian with me?

:laugh:

Barnett's loss to Nogeuira wasn't controversial IMO. Cro Cop is just a bad matchup for him, but no matter how you slice it he's lost 2 out of his last 4 fights and his last victory was against an average opponent at best. Rothwell is on a 13-fight streak and just defeated Ricco Rodriguez, he's been dominant enough in his victories in the IFL to get a shot at Fedor, especially if he beats Arlovski.

Also, Arlovski just beat two very good opponents in convincing fashion.

And as far as Barnett schooling people that Fedor had trouble with that means nothing. We already know that in MMA, A+B doesn't always = C

If that were the case then wouldn't Fedor have the advantage since he beat Cro Cop and Cro Cop beat Barnett 3 times? Another example would be Chuck beating Wanderlei, and Wanderlei ibeing dominant over Rampage but Rampage being dominant over Chuck, it's all about style matchups.

Excellent post. Styles make fights. Period.

I'd take Rothwell in that fight, but I'll admit that I am a full-blow Arlovski hater.

Do I smell a sig bet?

Yep

I can't see any IFL fighter beating Arlovski. I think big Ben's about to meet his maker.

I agree, I'd love to see that fight, but I think Rothwell and Arlovski are both more deserving at this point, especially Ben Rothwell.

Isn't Rothwell a former IFL fighter?

At first I scoffed at this matchup but as I ponder it, there are a lot of interesting ways this fight can go before Fedor submits him mid-way thru the opening round.

Chachie we still on for the GSP / Serra fight, if I keep this up eventually my sig will be nothing but my terrible sig betting record.

Like I said before, if you're taking Serra we're on.

Everyone gets exposed by Anderson Silva

Spidaaaah!

If Rich needs Shamrock to take a dive, he wouldn't have only 3 losses. It just looked like Ken got scared of the 1-2 that was about to pop him.

I love the guy, but- IMHO, Rich Franklin will never be the same after the Silva beatings. His nose is mush now and he won't have the killer instinct.