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So McCarthy is always in the building, is a football junkie, everyone loves him and he's lost 3 times since middle school, won a state title, and two national titles at two different levels. Oh and he had a fantastic shuttle time, it's obvious on tape that he can run and evade, uses his mobility to make plays downfield and threw 61 mph at the combine. What are we waiting for exactly? This is the kind of guy you build a whole program around. And he comes from a school that aside from a troubled Rich Rod/Hoke period, and his coach, who played QB in the NFL said he's the best to come out of Michigan.

Female clowns on the other hand, really rev your motor?

@Llevron You keep doing this like there's a possibility you're right and I think the only reason you're invested in that possibility is because of your feelings on the QB involved. And it's totally legit to say you don't think this will affect the pick itself. Or that you think the team and the agents will patch it up if need be. But to act like you know better than someone who just talked to you from a place of expertise in entertainment is some kind of ego, dude.

Yeah but usually, Rufus and others are funny when they do it.

No no no no. We're not going to skip over that SI article so quickly. Hoop, I want to know why you think that article said what it did. I posted two excerpts about Daniels that echo the same perceptions (and stats) about him voiced here and in that Chicago Bears blog. I also showed how the one scout talking about a pass sailing vs. Alabama was out of his damn gourd. So let's talk about what that article showed other than, yes, you can take away that he's seen as #2. But that was burying the lede.

Jesus, do these guys watch or read anything...more from the article that puts an end to whatever it is lol (it's a good article, but it brings up more of what people like Rufus, Consigliere and myself talk about with regard to "expertise") The QBs coach continued, “Last drive of the game against Alabama, the receiver [Roman] Wilson runs a deep cross, and J.J. has him open, but he overstrides and the ball sails on him. It’s gonna be a pick and Michigan’s gonna lose. The Alabama DB thinks he’s got it, and Wilson makes a ridiculous catch. And that’s an easy throw. _(stuff)___ like that, I worry about. What? LOL. I'm not sure he overstrode on that ball. But the ball did not sail it was tipped. The ball was tipped and Roman made a great catch. But the ball would have hit Roman if not for the tip. I think it was Dallas Turner that tipped it. A first round guy made a great play and another guy made another great play. Because the ball was thrown hard it kept going rather than end up as a devastating play (or hit).

More from that article. Notice the "over the middle of the field" (thus not just metrics, or he's totally just reading other people's stuff) and the pick and stick throwing. I keep hearing about processing but "moving too quickly" is not actually processing, a lot of younger QBs do that when they are trying to process and read but are hurrying due to anxiety about rush or timing: . “I saw discipline with his feet, an ability to distribute the ball and make good decisions. I knew he was an athlete, but when I flipped it on, I saw a quarterback who happens to make plays with his legs.” If there is a criticism in that realm, it came from the aforementioned AFC coordinator, who adds, “My concern is he doesn’t ever throw over the middle of the field; they’re mostly pick-and-stick throws. So does he see it? Is he processing it?” That said, his downfield accuracy, and throws to the sideline, show his talent as a passer.

I'm sorry, I want someone who scrambles to pass at least some of the time. See this comment (which conforms to the beliefs on this thread, I'd say): Second, there’s the fact that some of these hits come in scramble situations, where Daniels is almost always running. “When he scrambles, he runs, he doesn’t extend plays to throw,” says an AFC coordinator. “So when he pulls the ball down and moves, you know he’s going to go. He had 16 pass attempts off scrambles all year. You’d just like for him to keep his eyes downfield more. Now, he rushed for 1,200 yards, so it’s tough to argue the results. … But it’s the combination of he doesn’t have the frame and he’s getting f---ing rocked that worries you.” An NFC OC adds, “If you watch 20 scramble plays of Caleb Williams and 20 of Jayden Daniels, they’re polar opposites. Caleb’s going to throw it 15 out of the 20 times, and Jayden’s going to run it 15 out of the 20 times.”

Yeah that's been clear for awhile now, same with Lebron for over a decade now. At least with SEC, they could push any given player or maybe even hype a team because it beat an SEC team. But last year was not the crowning achievement for the SEC, it's best win was not a great one (can't recall off the top of my head but it was really a weak OOC win). And even last year, the vaunted SEC giant of late, Georgia, was a cheap shot concussion on MHJr from losing against another B1G team (and was still a field goal away, as I recall, though 2022-23 is hazier now.)

Dude I posted that and said to the whole group on the thread that the discussion was over, the debate is settled, the science is in, etc. The comps aren't based on eye test they're based on the metrics. Here's something--has anyone just done simple regression to see if some base measures (or set of measures given a score) correlate to busting? I'm more concerned with avoiding the obvious busts. And the argument being made isn't "P2S RATIO!" in and of itself but a combination of measures that are alarming and place Daniels in a very weird spot with a long list of failures (of late) in the NFL. And even things in the article that I already posted a couple days ago--breaking down his running and showing it's good, but not quite at the same level as other players, especially when you consider that he will likely take big hits to get extra yards. That's why the Mariota comparison is being made (partially), not just because of middle of the field stuff but even yards after contact, and other measures they used. I will say I went to the 2020 analysis and Herbert's advanced passing to multiple areas of the field was trash (comparatively) to Tua but also this year's picks. Like really bad competlion and on-target %. But I will say they thought Hurts should be taken more seriously as well, so they didn't bomb it exactly.

Well that's interesting. McCarthy is great on play action and attacking over the middle. No need to teach him and watching some of his highlights even from 2022, he does pass outside the numbers.

I want the guy people can see is special. And contrary to popular and dumb opinion was a central reason for their success. It's amazing you took from that passage what you did. "He may not have the impact of the others at first but can surpass everyone but maybe Caleb Williams." (Paraphrase) BTW, aren't Maye and McCarthy both guys with smaller hands considering their height?

It was the 80s. Everyone's shoulder pads were outsized.

Speaking of Sam Howell---why did the regime give up on him? was it his Pressure 2 Sack Ratio?

DQ: I'm the head coach, I'm in charge here! GMAP:

"there's no touch to his throws, everything is a laser" Hey, that sounds like JJ.

Yeah, there's a whole genre of sports talk clips online with a guy in Asia (sometimes the channel names are in Vietnamese) doing artwork or something else at the end of the video for 5-10 minutes.

As long as it's not a Sixers-style (uh oh) "Trust the (10 year long) process."

Where did she go

He probably had to check something by rule and didn't want to toss it by the time he was at airport.

Word on the street is the QB group went to grab some late night food from the Giant. JD left the shopping cart just sitting in the middle of a parking spot. Damn shame.

"There is no settling down! This is blood for blood and by the gallons. This is the old days, the bad days, the Boonell and Candle days, the all-or-nothing days. They're back!"

You want to learn the first rule? You'd know if you spent a day in your life. Don't ever open your mouth 'till you know what the shot is.

I thought JD looked familiar.