21 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

I am stunned to learn Ekeler is going ahead of Robinson in fantasy drafts.

 

https://www.threads.net/@sal_vetri/post/C8KaPFROP9g

Ekeler knows how to get in the end zone.

 We get the total remake from the owner on down, it's the 2nd time. The 1st. time was great, Jack brought in the young and brightest GM candidate out there and let him put his plan to work and now it has happened again.  We have a real plan like Bobby B., the energy, mindset, front office, coaches have that same vibe too.

 We have some talented Vets and young players around J.D. who needs to just keep on working to get better and become the leader of this team. Like the start of the new era.

15 hours ago, BayouBrave86 said:

JJ was always going to be a project. Could not believe the hype he was getting towards the draft. Glad Jefferson got that pay day because his numbers aren’t going to look nearly the same when he has JJ throwing to him  

They might win more games though?  Kirk and Jefferson do not have rings only disappointment but they have made a lot of money.  J.J. has been know to be a winner, just saying. No rush just sit him till he is ready if they chose. Time will answer everything and who was right to hype or not hype all the rookie QB's. 11 on 11 OTA's mini camps for rookies are not going to decide the future. 

3 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

No there were 100% people worried that all of his success was because of the great team around him. Trust me lol. The conversations got so repetitive that anyone with a fully functioning brain without any kind of chemical dependency would have stopped reading them. But I was here 🥲

100% disagree there were many reasons. There was posting over and over when comparing with Maye and the team around him.  Just as many were about his frame and style of running and leaving the pocket to early and taking big hits, did he want to be here, and.........He did have the best team around him hard to deny that but that is not the only reason. The main factor for me was running style and Body taking NFL hits while doing it. But he has impressed me since he has been here as the player and person he is.  He is dedicated to the team, works hard, comes prepared, has leadership skills and I believe in the people who picked him to be their QB. So far so good. 

22 hours ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

@riggo44 said: 

 

"...I remember Redskins Report"

 

Why you're just a spring chicken. lol

 

XXXXXX

 

 

Just found this! Haven't watched yet.

 

 

 

 

A far too short cut of Sonny and Brenner during their zenith for nostalgic "timers" and curious youngins...

 

 

 

 

This is a very early example of the show with Warner Wolf, filmed before the Sonny/Glenn Brenner era began. It was more of a straight laced serious sporting-news show back then...

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

Search results also popped up the following dark moment in team history. If football teams were tv shows this would be a likely candidate for the moment when we first "jumped the shark".

 

Little did we know back in 1994 that in our future were even worse moments to come including the  evil machinations of he who shall not be named...

 

 

 

Warner Wolf and the sports machine, Boo of the week, left for NY and came back years later. Had not seen that name in a while.

Jayden, maybe a Hotdog Sandwich on a hot dog size grilled bun without the fixins? Just add, fried pickles, fried squash, red onions,mustard or chili,cheese,cajun pinto beans,.....

5 hours ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

 

 

I'm not sure I get your meaning here.

 

Are you saying that no player ever excepts such a deal or something else?

 

If it's the former, I would agree that it is a rare occurrence, but when needs and impediments line up it can be a practical option for both parties.

 

In this case, Bakhtiari's injury history has him facing the likely possibility of forced retirement.

 

There's no team out there willing to risk a roster spot and the financial obligation it would usually take to get a player of his pedigree, even at a discount.

 

He needs a desperate team willing to risk his not being able to play at all this year yr oelr perhaps  even ever again, just to have a long shot chance that he might be able to play this year and play well--- enter the Commanders.

 

The best marriages sometimes involve serendipity, mutual desperation, and a confluence of needs.

 

 

Mark Schelref had terrible knees but one of the best RT's when healthy. Washington gave up on him. Ended up playing many years at Denver later on. I like to think anything is possible if you get a shot. Some players are chasing a ring later on in their career and pretty sure but not positive that he already has one.  I would give us a better shot at landing him with this team then recent years if he was not ready to hang up the cleats and healthy. We have the space and a big need.

Jack K. hired Bobby B. the up and coming superstar from successes at 2 top teams to run his team and he gave him the control. Harris just did the same thing as Cooke, one of the best owners at that time, with the hiring of Adam Peters. The best of times being a Washington fan and a very bad day was when Bobby B. left and Cooke passed later. It just has the right course this time and that's why there is hope. We have a owner who understands and a GM with a vision now and that is a good start. It's also not hard to forget about the last 30 years and not think how bad it is going to turn out or not change. I believe it's not about having a bunch of dumb fans either, that do not see it this way. Same fans from all walks and ways of life.  It's just going to take longer for some fans. E.S. fans that have posted per the recent poll are 100% positive of Owner and GM, so far as I checked recently. Already like the way Harris and AP are putting their stamps on the team. Winning will bring back all the fans.    

7 to 10 Wins

We have made to many upgrades for me to think we cannot not make a wild card play. Even if they do not win 10 games and have some meaningful games in the of the season will be a decent start to this turn around.  9-8 is what I chose and expect with good reason. 18 new FA's a nice draft and nice UFA haul. Energy from the team and coaches seem to be outstanding so far. The front office got handed many gifts like the picks in these rds. 1st, 2nd and 3rd, The Cap money available and the ability to change whatever they want. The owners pick to run the team have been praised over and over.  6 wins would be a disappointment for me, the feeling is completely opposite I had last year at this time.  

Owner, General Manager, Direction of the team all come in 100% through 39 votes so far. 🙂 Now if their work pans out, we can move to the future and forget the past.

2 minutes ago, Going Commando said:

 

Lockett wasn't much of a receiver until his fourth season when he was 26.  Jahan has already posted similar production to Lockett's first two years and he came into the NFL a year younger.  I don't think that is too high a bar for Jahan to reach, especially not as his best case scenario.  It would also be a pretty major disappointment if Jahan didn't break out until he was 26.  He kind of needs to do it this year.  Definitely has to if he wants his fifth year picked up.

Agree he needs to turn it around I hope he can.  It would be a disappointment if the former middle 1st. rd. pick did not breakout until 26. But no matter which ever way you steer it, if he becomes another Tyler we will be happy or at least I will.

I see Eckeler getting a lot of work in the Red Zone, where he has been a TD machine and as the third down back, we have sucked in that area. I think he plays 50% of the game because he blocks, catches and can still run the ball. Maybe not the same player as age and injuries slowed him down last year and the clocks running but I still have faith. B. Robinson is what he is a good back nothing great.  

17 minutes ago, Going Commando said:

Terry played through turf toe.  And he definitely got frozen out by Howell and Bieniemy.  Howell never really trusted him and Bieniemy's system sucked for receivers.  Despite all of that, he still got his thousand yards.

 

Jahan has somewhat low upside because of his lack of size and strength, although he does have weirdly strong red zone ability for a tiny receiver because he is so good at playing above the rim.  He's not going to have a Nico Collins type of break out because of the lack of play strength though.  His best case scenario is probably Tyler Lockett with a red zone game, which would be huge for us.  Wish we would use him in the return game.  He's the best return man on our roster now that Gibson is gone.

 

I do think that Jayden will be very good for Jahan at least, as long as Jayden hits the ground running.  You don't want to play a bunch of man coverage against Jayden because of his incredibly dangerous run threat, which should free Jahan up to get off the line of scrimmage.  You also don't necessarily want to play a ton of two high against Jayden for the same reason, and Terry is the one who will dictate the high safety, so Jahan is going to get a lot of one on ones.  The table is set for him to have success.  He just needs to run his routes like a stud and catch the ball.

 

We could use more speed at WR though.  Speed is what defines Miami and KC and we don't have anyone in our offense with elite speed other than Jayden.  Jayden's a gifted vertical passer, we need multiple guys who can smoke one on one coverage deep to take advantage of this.

 

We also need a way better OL.  We need a group that can hold up forever in pass pro, and I'm still not sure what kind of run game we are installing.  I'd consider totally reshuffling the line.  Cosmi is our best pass protector and our fastest OL.  Braeden Daniels our second fastest one.  We also know Wylie has an issue with over setting.  Why not try Cosmi and Daniels at our tackle spots and move Wylie inside then?  Especially if you want to run outside zone a lot.

 Are you underestimating Tyler Lockett or setting the bar for Dotson high. Lockett is a little older now but if Jahan reached Tyler's career one day, then he would have been a good pick in the 1st. rd. for sure is what I think. I would take a Tyler Lockett type WR any day. 

11 minutes ago, Conn said:

I would welcome the slant merchant on an incentive-laden contract but he’s best at this point as a big slot and we’ve got some in-house candidates to play a lot of snaps there. He’d most likely spend the majority of the season on IR but he’s excellent in traffic over the middle which can help a young QB. And his ego has reduced in size over the last few disappointing seasons, so you no longer have to worry about the ballhog mentality

 Injuries and some other things reduced his play the last couple years for sure. But he does a lot more than the slants. He can go up and bring the ball down too, side lines whatever? 

7 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

He specifically said he didn't feel like himself that last season and you could look at it and see it. I honestly think it was just bad coaching, low moral and knowing none of this was going anywhere. Guys like Terry, who can see the writing on the wall and play hard anyway, are rare. Not that its a good excuse, mind you. He cant do it again. But thats what it looked like to me. 

A number of good WR's come on their 2nd. year also. Could be bad coaching, QB whatever? Maybe they lost confidence in his ability to catch the ball, I did.  Stroud did wonders for the young WR's last year maybe JD will too?

Michale Thomas would be the FA I would like to bring in and kick the tires. I know it's most likely not popular here and he would have to be healthy and the kind of team player type they are looking for, not sure he is? Price may not be right either?  I liked Eckler and Thomas early on before FA started, when they were not that popular as a signing here. Just my opinion of who I think could help the WR group, maybe?

5 hours ago, Ghost of said:

While I understand your rankings, I'm not sure how Milton is in a tier up at 1mph faster than McCarthy.  Only thing I can think is that people watch tape and see a deep pass that is not quite lofted, not quite laser and don't understand arm strength. JJ can literally throw the ball like 30+ yards with no throwing base and doing a 360 in the air. 

 

 

McCarthy throws lasers on the run, not sure I agree at all with this assessment. From the pocket, yeah. Maybe there's mechanical or mental thing there. But on the run or throwing without a base at all? Nah, disagree. It's why he was a 5 star recruit.

My thoughts watching the combine McCarthy had a better arm then everybody throwing except for Milton stronger than Penix, also thought the QB we signed as a UDFA had the one of the weaker arm's so he is my least favorite rookie for that reason and was not that excited about the signing. Daniels, Caleb and Maye were not there to go toe to toe. 

3 hours ago, RandyHolt said:

Nice pull on the shoulder... likely just draft paranoia.

 

FTR I am not disputing that the league has universally switched to rotating out defensive players notably the DL. Again what I am disputing is that our top players are out of shape or otherwise unable to perform to expectations in just 5.5 minutes of full bore strenuous activity, very liberally spread across 3 hours.  I still contend I will take Allen at 95% than Potatoe' at 100% ICE COLD. That clear backup guy coming in ice cold better be damn ready to get attacked by OCs searching for weak links, and outperform Allen.  If I am an OL or OC I am thrilled Allen and Payne are on the bench. Until we got Newton, at least.

 

If the modern day DCs going to a scrub backups in the 3rd series was a game changer, backup DL would have higher PFF grades than the starters, right?? Finally we have stats on this ****. The backup laden defense collectively also posting better stats than the starters. Lets see them.

 

I bet some here may recall hearing pass rushers subbed out annoyed because they had been setting up an OL and on the bench, their plan neutered.

 

A coach knows who has a high motor laced on Sudafed and a guy that is out of shape. . Sub accordingly.  Here are 2 motors from back in the day.

Is that the hit Dexter put on Danny White, ringing his clock? If so said he was going to do it before the playoff game, and backed it up. White was never the same after that game. Monte closing in too.

Rating players that could make the team or position better rather than from a big board of rating best available at that position. Could be why we took Coleman over Bebe? 

Can Coleman if he hits at LT make the team better? Bebe may be BPA but does he make the team better at G only? Do the 3 players they tock in the 2nd. rd. make the team better at CB,DT and TE and the team better versus the OT's that were available? That is what they are betting on and the way they do things in S.F. along with having a consensus pick by the group. 

3 hours ago, Command The 414 said:

 

 

 

Jeff Hostetler worn it as well when he played for the Redskins….and 19 is definitely a partial number in my house hold…. 19 is the # my Son has worn since he played tee ball and he’s stuck with it through out his baseball journey… he’s going to D3 Saint Vincent College next year and it looks like he won’t be getting it since a current Jr has it… not since Joe Montana with the Chiefs do I remember a #19… oh Scott Mitchell for Detroit was too

Johnny Unitas 19 Colts, Wore 15 at Louisville and it's retired. 

Last year's draft was a wakeup call for me and I bet a lot of fans.  We were going to go with the QB we drafted, no more castoffs from other teams. Then the season started and went downhill from there. Reality set in, halfway threw the season the players that were drafted and FA's were mistakes per what was needed, the coaches did not help things and the ship was sinking. By the time the season ended Ron needed to go down with his ship. 

3 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Its a bit odd how some get on tilt if you mention that Fields may have untapped potential. Ironically, Fields destroyed our defense in one half better than any other QB did all year. Eliminating the narrative but it was us. And it could have been worse if he didn't miss wide open Mooney deep and have to punt. And he did it without running. IIRC his OL was also in tatters. Lost their top RB early if not the backup as well. Or 3. JDR was probably on tilt fearing his legs.

 

Chicago is the place QBs go to die as we all know. I continually beat the drums about how an OC gets a pass for his failures while its all the young QBs fault. I call bunk that an NFL starting QB "can't pass".  What is true is that OCs often struggle to swallow their pride and implement a playbook call routes and plays that a QB excels at.

 

Smart cheap pickup low risk move by Pitt.

So would you rather have Fields or Russell as your starter, that seemed to be the point and who was the best fit. I would take Fields to if I did not have a QB, would rather had Howell who lite up some better teams than Washington. 

2 minutes ago, Command The 414 said:

It’s just a opinion, it’s not fact… i just personally think Fields wasn’t given a full hand, 2 HC and 3 OC in his 3 seasons. At this time of their careers I think Fields gives the Steelers the best outcome at QB.

 

I don’t understand why ppl blast others for their opinions on a player, a pick, a coach etc…. Sometimes I wonder how this board or other boards manage to stick around.  

They will find a way to use his running style to mix it up, if Wilson has nothing left then it is Fields. Fields had 4 years in Chicago they were just spinning wheels with him, my opinion not bashing.

10 hours ago, wit33 said:

 

 

How would you describe someone as "primarily a pocket passer?

 

Rushing and pass attempts? Yards?
 

Injuries no doubt are a concern, no argument from me. 

 

 (Rings) look at the QB's if they are not elite Passers there will be no rings. Elite runners can only get you so far, the passer trumps the runner in this NFL. Wilson, Mahomes, are mobile QB's that buy time and they have rings because they can pass the ball. The pocket passers still get it done too, mobile might be better these days too. But runners have an empty trophy case at this point. 

10 hours ago, wit33 said:

And…

 

Adam Peters/Dan Quinn

Bears draft, Caleb W. same type QB as Russell and ditched the nonpassing, running QB Fields. When Fields can pass the ball in the NFL he will make it, J. Daniels has a chance because he can Pass the ball, like Russell has done from the get go. Russell has a ring too. They will have some running plays in Pittsburg for Fields like NO does for 2 QB's. Big Ben has rings too, that's what they want, if they only could clone him? The locker room will side with Russell if he has anything left, especially the WR's. That's my opinion on this matter.