Rat_Boy Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think it's a bit foolhardy to think drafting a guard at #18 is going to win more games than drafting a WR or QB.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I have to disagree with you on that. I also think the exact opposite is more foolhardy. A Guard can make the transition to the NFL faster than a WR, and MUCH MUCH faster than a QB usually.<br /><br />I think our problem on the roster now is we have about 10 #2 and #3 receivers. No #1 receiver at all. Now, if we want to draft a #1 receiver, then that is fine. But I think that is a move for the future, and not a move for 2002. <br /><br />I agree with Smooty on the DL. We need to get younger there. But I most of the DT's that are "complete" will be gone. We will have to settle for a speed rusher or run stuffer, but not a complete DT more than likely.<br /><br />Really, I don't care what position we draft at 18 as long as the player is a good prospect. But I can understand the merits of drafting a Guard. We have had veteran stop gaps for many MANY years at Guard. When are we going to groom our own talent there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCountry48 Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I'm with Ratty. We could really use a beast at the guard position. The second round should be the target, however.<br /><br />Chris<br /><br /> <img src="http://a188.g.akamaitech.net/f/188/920/1h/www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/images/I13824-2000Oct15" alt="" /> <br /><br />Big Country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 It would be stupid to draft a receiver at 18 when we have Skaggs, just signed Derrius Thomspon,have D Mac,Gardner, and Anthony as well as doering on the team.<br /><br />The Rams with all of their speed didnt pass protect or open up holes that well against the Pats now did they?<br /><br />When you have a solid line you have the time to throw to those glamour receivers and open up holes for S Davis.<br /><br />Musical interior linemen is ridiculous and when I was screaming for a Linemen last year we wasted the pick on a receiver now that we are supposedly going to use this years #1 on another one which is stupid IMO.<br /><br />And Hutchinson runblocking was very good last year and his pass protection did help Dilfer go undefeated in his starts didnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romo Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 im with the conventional wisdom that we can wait till the 2nd round to get a guard. yes it would be nice to grab a stud og but we have too many other needs. <br /><br />i think we pick the best player from WR, DL, QB. <br />if big IF Roy Williams is still there we have to take him.<br />i saw one draft that had us picking the TE Graham from Colorado. While it would be nice to get a stud TE as well im not sure this fits with Spurrier's offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I read where SS is attending personally today, Tennessee's Pro Day workout where all their players workout in front of NFL scouts. I hope this doesnt mean we are going to draft another WR in the 1st round again, like Donte Stallworth. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> Although he's good, we have too many needs on the OL and DL to take another WR. Besides there are a number of FA WR's that can be signed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 There simply is no need to draft G in round one. Remember: Seattle drafted Hutchinson b/c, in part, they expect him to be able to play tackle. He was a tackle at Michigan, but rookies take to the far less demanding G position in the pros. That makes Jansen's and Samuels' transition that much more impressive. We might not be able to get Fonoti or Gurode in the second, but plenty of equal quality Gs (Simmons, Metcalf, Weary) will be there and into the 3rd & 4th. DTs & DEs will not be. I wouldn't draft a WR b/c we did that last year, but I wouldn't rule it out as a general proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 And what exactly has Skaggs proven? Nothing. Why everyone keeps mentioning him and D Mac is beyond me. Thompson has played more than they have, and it took him several years to finally get on the field. I, for one, don't feel like waiting around for those two to develop into a #4 reciever. There are plenty of players who can look pretty good in pre-season and completely bomb in a REAL game. Anyone who thinks Rod Gardner can't be a #1 reciever are overlooking the fact he is just in his second season, and he posted great numbers for a rookie. The number of drops can be corrected with good coaching, so why can't he become a #1 reciever? <br /><br />Not many teams should be drafting guards early, so why not wait until the second round to get one? If there is no threat of your player being taken off the board, fill another need until then. I'd rather draft a DT or DE in the first, and get a OG in the second. We could pick up a veteran WR who can produce RIGHT NOW through free agency. It may be too late to acquire Donald Hayes, the Pats are close to signing him. But Schroder, Crowell, Pathon, McCardell, and Quadry Ismail are all available and proven producers.<br /><br />Ramsey doesn't impress me, and don't we have enough unproven QBs to develop? Why draft another one? Who wants to see a roster of 4 QBs who all need to develop? The team should sign a veteran and wait until next season to find a youngster for the future. We don't NEED to find our QB of the future now, no need to force the issue if there is no one really worth the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBlaze Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seattle drafted Hutchinson b/c, in part, they expect him to be able to play tackle. He was a tackle at Michigan, </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not so. Hutchinson was an All Big 10 performer four years straight at OG. Some draft gurus stated it was possible he had the feet to move outside, but he was drafted to be an OG. <br /><br />I would prefer the OG in the 2nd round. Fonoti is rated as the #1 OG, but his pass blocking skills aren't as good as Terrance Metcalf and Kendall Simmons. Playing in a Spurrier offense, I am assuming that the Skins OGs needs to have some pass blocking skills. Obviously at Nebraska, Fonoti was run blocking a majority of the time. Simmons and Metcalf both played G and LT for their respective college teams, and in the tough SEC. Those two would be perfect 2nd round picks. Coming from CU, I would like to see Gurode, I like his versatility as a C as well, but I don't think he's worth the #18, but he won't be there in the 2nd either.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We trade to the low 20's in the 1st round and pick up another 2nd and 3rd round pick, and then draft:</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry, but no team is going to give up a 2nd and a 3rd to move into the #18 spot from the low 20's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 The reason Skaggs and D Mac are brought up is because they have spent a year in practice going against pro bowl calibre Corner backs in practice and receiving rave reviews from Champ and Smoot where as a College player is going to be further along according to your logic which may not be the case and it would be a waste to sign another receiver in the first round in consecutive years.<br /><br />Derrius T while not a fan favorite could have been in Norvals doghouse and he did have to play behind Westy,Connell ,Thrash, Irvin Fryar and Last year Gardner.<br /><br />The first round doesnt have to be about drafting the glamour spots it should be about the obvious need and musical interior O lineman is going to continue to contribute to a slow start when the season starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Thanks JonBlaze for the correction. My mistake. That's probably I wasn't unhappy we passed up on Hutchinson & picked Gardner last year. I still wouldn't draft a G in the first ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Hey Inmate running.....,<br /><br />One Tennessee player that the Skins may be interested in is the guard Fred Weary.<br /> <br /> <small>[ March 13, 2002, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: Terry ]</small> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 I didn't mean to make it seem I wanted the team to draft a WR in the first round. Not at all. I would like to see a DT or DE drafted more than anything.<br /><br />Skaggs and D Mac should be allowed to challenge for a roster spot, and most likely they will. Yet I don't see any reason why everytime the WR issue is brought up, a poster mentions these two like their successful development into good recievers is a forgone conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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