stratoman Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 As some of you may know, one of my son's serves in the military. He is still stateside, here in California. He called me yesterday to let me know how warm and welcoming people were to him, and his troops, everywhere he goes. Telling me how people shake their hands, and thank them for being willing to serve, and fight, for not only our own freedoms but so that others may have them also. But he also told me about an incident in the grocery store he stopped at yesterday, on his way home from the base. He said that ahead of several people in front of him stood a woman dressed in a burkha. He said when she got to the cashier she loudly remarked about the U.S. flag lapel pin the cashier wore on her uniform. The cashier reached up and touched the pin, and said yes, I always wear it. The woman in the burkha then asked the cashier when she was going to stop bombing her countrymen, explaining that she was Iraqi. A gentleman standing behind my son stepped forward, putting his arm around my son's shoulders, and nodding towards my son, said in a calm and gentle voice to the Iraqi woman: "Lady, hundreds of thousands of men and women like this young man have fought and died so that you could stand here, in MY country and accuse a check-out cashier of bombing your countrymen. It is my belief that had you been this outspoken in YOUR OWN country we wouldn't need to be there today. But, hey? if you have now learned how to speak out so loudly and clearly I'll gladly pay your way back to Iraq so you can straighten out the mess you are obviously here to avoid." Everyone in line, and within hearing distance, cheered the older gentleman, coming forward as they reached for their wallets. The woman in the burkha left the store in silence. I am, like at least some that were in the store, outraged! But it also warmed my heart to know that we, as American's, are speaking out, calmly and succinctly (finally) to those that enjoy the freedoms here in the US. but who complain and berate the very government (and the people) that protect those very freedoms. Hooray for Rea's son; Hooray for that checker; Hooray for the gentleman in the store for his actions; Hooray for Rea for sharing this with all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 This is all over the Internet. I can't find a credible source or the author of the article, though. Can you? In addition, Iraqi women generally wear hijabs, not burqas. I'm almost sure that it's an urban legend devised to stir up patriotism and discrimination against Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratoman Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Ancalagon the Black This is all over the Internet. I can't find a credible source or the author of the article, though. Can you? In addition, Iraqi women generally wear hijabs, not burqas. I'm almost sure that it's an urban legend devised to stir up patriotism and discrimination against Muslims. You are certainly entitled to your opinion! IF any one gets discrimanated it's Christians:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I'm cool with Christians as long as they don't call me crazy while they're at the controls of airliners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I'm almost sure that it's an urban legend devised to stir up patriotism and discrimination against Muslims. have to agree with ancal on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Ancalagon the Black I'm cool with Christians as long as they don't call me crazy while they're at the controls of airliners. crazy-a*s Elron Hubburd loving scientologist Is that OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Ancalagon the Black This is all over the Internet. I can't find a credible source or the author of the article, though. Can you? In addition, Iraqi women generally wear hijabs, not burqas. I'm almost sure that it's an urban legend devised to stir up patriotism and discrimination against Muslims. To "stir up patriotism"? Sure. Probably. But to state that this is just an attempt to discriminate against Muslims is crazy. Which group comprises the majority of Iraq? Muslims, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by OaktonSkinsFan To "stir up patriotism"? Sure. Probably. But to state that this is just an attempt to discriminate against Muslims is crazy. Which group comprises the majority of Iraq? Muslims, of course. I'm referring to the fact that it's a (probably fabricated) story that involves a Muslim woman wearing a burqa being told off by a proud citizen of our great nation because of her wrongheaded criticism of our foreign policies. I'm not really sure what your comment has to do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Ancalagon the Black I'm referring to the fact that it's a (probably fabricated) story that involves a Muslim woman wearing a burqa being told off by a proud citizen of our great nation because of her wrongheaded criticism of our foreign policies. I'm not really sure what your comment has to do with that. Use your imagination and pretend for a moment that Iraq was some other nation. The Muslim woman, then, would be replaced with somoene else representing that nation. She would be, let's say, a Canadian woman. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by OaktonSkinsFan Use your imagination and pretend for a moment that Iraq was some other nation. The Muslim woman, then, would be replaced with somoene else representing that nation. She would be, let's say, a Canadian woman. :laugh: Right, gotcha, but why include the physical description of the woman at all (and especially have such a striking image of a woman in a burqa, which is mostly not used in Iraq)? Why not have it be a liberal or a Communist or just a plain ol' Iraqi? It's all about the inclusion of the physical description. If it had been a Canadian dude, would we have said "guy in khaki pants"? It's the fact that there's a very easily recognizable image that's being produced--one that doesn't even represent the people of the region in question--that leads me to believe that part of the article's intent is to stir up hatred for the "other." Patriotism is much more easily riled up when the enemy has an identifiable, and alien, face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by Ancalagon the Black Right, gotcha, but why include the physical description of the woman at all (and especially have such a striking image of a woman in a burqa, which is mostly not used in Iraq)? I understand what you're saying now. But honestly, so much of the footage and pictures that I see out of Iraq do show women in the burqa. Sorry, I just think it's a stretch to assume that the author's, at least partial, intention was to be discriminatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I'm agreeing with Ancal on this one. I've heard it too many times and Iraqi women DEFINITELY don't wear Burqas. IN fact, many of them don't wear hijabs or ANYTHING. Also, lots of Iraqis were grateful for what was happening there and in the streets of Dearborn and other places. Also, I've not yet run into too many loudmouth Muslims, especially women who would say such things, even if they thought them. No offense intended, but that tends to be the purview of angry white leftists, angry black leftists and angry white racists---and women. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratoman Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 Originally posted by Ancalagon the Black I'm cool with Christians as long as they don't call me crazy while they're at the controls of airliners. Have the Christians done that yet??? Have the Christian(except for an exceptional few) done suiside bombomings! This happens every day by a PEACEFULL religion like Islam! You Know who will win in the end and they sure don't come from the Middle East.:shot: :asta: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Well, yes, they have. This is what I was talking about: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49614 Kiddin' around, y'know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratoman Posted February 11, 2004 Author Share Posted February 11, 2004 Ok just keeping thinks in check:cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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