jbooma Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 You guys are starting to act like Cowboy and Eagle fans, freaking out over a stupid contest on foxsports. Sending emails to everyone that votes for the hall of fame. Everyone now count 1, 2, 3, 4, ............. 10 Just because we don't know the reasons behind the decisions doesn't mean you all need to start the conspiracy bandwagons. The fox thing they might have had some application that ran right before the end to delete any multiple votes from the same computers, remember we were going against Ray Lewis fans not just Raven fans, so they would outnumber Ramsey. About Monk, it took WR's such as Stallworth and Swann a long time to make the HOF, as it will Monk. Monk will make it but it will take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsbadd Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Look Booma , We have every right to be pissed. Since you post here more than most, you should know better than to ever try to compare us to Cowboys and Eagles fans! Thems fightin' words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 31, 2004 Author Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by carlsbadd Look Booma , We have every right to be pissed. Since you post here more than most, you should know better than to ever try to compare us to Cowboys and Eagles fans! Thems fightin' words. I agree we have the right to be pissed but to send emails screaming at the HOF voters is a little sad, and makes us as fans look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeypeet Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Good lord Booma why wont you accept the fact that they could have ran their "application" only against those votes cast for Patrick. The fact of the matter is that you don't know that this didn't happen and everything FOX was doing prior to the final vote indicated that they didn't want Patrick to win.....so this was indeed not only possible but also likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Jumbo Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I agree with you booma. A little poll isn't going to make our team any better or worse. I was upset that Patrick didn't win, but that just the way things go. As for Monk, his time will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 all I ask for is logical answers to "why" the vote mysteriously changed so great in 10 minutes. History is filled with conspiracies and fraud, to just ignore and shrug it off, even if it is a silly little contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 31, 2004 Author Share Posted January 31, 2004 Originally posted by Whiskeypeet The fact of the matter is that you don't know that this didn't happen and everything FOX was doing prior to the final vote indicated that they didn't want Patrick to win.....so this was indeed not only possible but also likely. Whisky if they didn't want Patrick to win they wouldn't have let him pass the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeypeet Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Whisky if they didn't want Patrick to win they wouldn't have let him pass the first round. Booma they had no way to judge the degree to which Skins fans were willing vote after the first round. At that point they could have assumed the volume of votes was due to the novelty of the poll or something that would pass the longer the poll lasted. For all they knew Patrick would lose to Derick Brooks in the second round. I know you read their round by round commentary of the poll. Each discussion of a Ramsey victory wasn't cast like the victories of others. There was either mention of the Skins fans or the Patrick Ramsey fan club. They knew what we were doing so to stop us in the finals they changed the voting procedure so we couldn't do it anymore. Anyway, your right in a sense. This is stupid. I'm not going to waste any more time thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 sigh, i guess its finally time put all that crap behind us. It just pisses me off how we constantly get crap shoved in our face by the media, California, PR fiasco, and now Art gets snubbed again. Whatever I don't care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Jbooma. It is often difficult to reason when people are emotional. I agree with you......NONE of us on here.....unless you are a FoxSports representative KNOWS how this happened. The ranting and raving and conspiracy speculations are exactly that...specculations. If you go back to the very FIRST round, Fox stated they were going to inquire just HOW PR jumped so quickly. In the last round, I voted and when I tried to vote again, I was not allowed to do so. After I reconfigured my cookies, I could vote. Maybe the guys at Fox cleared all the multiple votes from single IP addresses. Ray Lewis is tough. Hard to deny that. Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 I know the contest is over, but the site from what I can see doesn't have a winner yet. Did you guys catch the results just before the end, and if so what was the final talley? I have to wait until tomorrow to see the results myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstahl Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 52-48 Ray was the final tally at midnight Pacific. I went from 53-47 to 52-48 at about 11:25 then stayed right there. Time to move on to the next challenge rooting for the skins in FA and the draft (much more important than Howie's "poll"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyKilmer Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Jbooma reminds me of the kid who always sides with the teacher no matter what. Yea the teacher might been right most the time but no one wanted to hear it from someone that was supposed to be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Look you m***f&*^s you've all missed the point!!!! How can there be justice for any one after fox f*cked Clay and rigged "Idol" for Reuben??????? If we allow fox to get away with this type of lunacy then the terrorists really have won!!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMac Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Look. Fox had rules in place for the contest. Those rules were that you could vote multiple times. They changed the rules with 1 hour left in the whole contest. Regardless of what methods they did, it was wrong. You don't change the stated rules of the game midway, or even worse, at the end of a contest to ensure the guy you want to win prevails. That's for the Supreme Court of the State of Florida to do. Fortunately for us all, they were stopped. No one is here to stop Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panthro Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Originally posted by KevinMac Look. Fox had rules in place for the contest. Those rules were that you could vote multiple times. They changed the rules with 1 hour left in the whole contest. Interesting... If these truly were the rules, then why so many posts about how to alter your web browser in order for the Fox site to be unable to recognize you? Look guys/gals. It's evident that many were trying to cheat in this contest. Perhaps there were more PR's fans trying to cheat than RL's fans - I don't know. The bottom line is... Fox got wise to it. Get over it. It's not like PR needs another truck. He's got plenty of money. If he wants one, he'll go buy it. I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 I'm not calling anything a conspiracy necessarily but there are a couple of things that need to be looked at. 1. Why wait until the END of the voting to remove all of the duplicate entries for Patrick instead of doing it all along and are we SURE duplicate entries for Lewis were deleted. 2. Why did THREE former Cowboys make the Top 10 in the HOF voting when a guy who held the NFL record for receptions when he retired couldn't? CONSPIRACY? Perhaps not but VERY fishy nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&BlueRivalry Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Originally posted by Jimbo 2. Why did THREE former Cowboys make the Top 10 in the HOF voting when a guy who held the NFL record for receptions when he retired couldn't? Bullet Bob Hayes should get in before Art Monk. As a Cowboy homer, I think Drew Pearson should too but I'll be realistic. Ramsey never should have won the Tough Guy award, he didn't deserve it although he has my respect for the beating he took. If the Skins didn't have clueless Spurrier in charge, Ramsey never would have been in the voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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