Atlanta Skins Fan Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 OK, cheap shot. In my view, nearly every national politician is bought, thanks to our lousy campaign finance system that requires our candidates to beg for cash. So I'm not singling out Bush for being bought. But my question is real. It was reported very early in the 2000 Republican campaign (long before the primaries) that Bush had a massive funding advantage over his rivals. This begs the question, who put our Manchurian President into play? Is this stuff disclosed anywhere -- dollars, dates, sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefhogskin48 Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 The oid industry is my guess. But seriously, I don't think this war is about oil. There's enough without Iraq. I still want to hear your condemning evidence that makes America an evil empire. I'm curious and open-minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta Skins Fan Posted May 2, 2003 Author Share Posted May 2, 2003 Originally posted by chiefhogskin48 I still want to hear your condemning evidence that makes America an evil empire. I'm curious and open-minded. Oh, I'm not dodging that. But I gave it my best shot initially, and AirSarge ain't convinced. Rather than waste everyone's time with a bunch of half-assed rhetoric, I really do want to try to make the case and will do so within a day or so. As for Bush's backing, I'm aware oil interests were supposedly involved, but I'm looking for a much more granular view. Who were the very first to get on board -- names, companies, dollars, dates. This stuff has to be public record, right? Otherwise we'd have genuine foreign Manchurian candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishhead Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Is it not obvious that George, who is a Texas Oil tycoon and was bought, not brought, into power by major industries such as the oil industry, is involved in a conflict solely to control one of the worlds most sought after resources? But you're right. It isn't about us NEEDING oil, or having oil for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 C. Montgomery Burns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golgo-13 Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dr. Evil???? Riiiight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 ASF, I think you would love this book, I don't personally endorse it, its an oversimplification, but it has some good information and I think you would really get a kick out of it. Here is the author's internet site http://www.gregpalast.com/ El Diablo con dinero... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Open Secrets is a great site for this stuff ASF. Here are Bush's top contributors: http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/contrib/P00003335.htm Here are the top industries: http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/indus.asp?ID=N00008072&Cycle=All Here are his sector totals: http://www.opensecrets.org/presidential/sector.asp?ID=N00008072&Cycle=All Here's Bush versus Gore in the sectors: http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/sector/AllCands.htm Bush had 119,213 individual contributors to his campaign directly. Of those, 64,680 gave 1,000 or more. Here's the Presidential election by candidate: http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/source/AllCands.htm Here's a list of Bush's 214 Pioneers, who are guys who raised more than $100,000 for him: http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/other/bush/pioneer.asp If you want to know where the money is coming from, look here, because this site has it for all political races in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta Skins Fan Posted May 2, 2003 Author Share Posted May 2, 2003 Originally posted by Art Open Secrets is a great site for this stuff ASF. Thanks, Art. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta Skins Fan Posted May 3, 2003 Author Share Posted May 3, 2003 Originally posted by Yomar ASF, I think you would love this book, I don't personally endorse it, its an oversimplification, but it has some good information and I think you would really get a kick out of it. Here is the author's internet site http://www.gregpalast.com/ This looks like a terrific book, and it was inspired by the trail of Bush Jr.'s campaign money. Many thanks for the reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 It sounds like an Ann Coulter book, just from the left. The description of Cheney being appointed to the court is typical liberal nonsense. What "inspired" a man to work all that hard tracking down Bush's campaign money when it's federal record where it came from? People amaze me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canyonero! Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 What a dumb question. It was the Illuminate of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn X Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 Bingo, Canyonero! But, of course, we all know that the Illuminati are really just a front for the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg Group, the people who really pull all the strings. Or is it the other way around? I can never keep these conspiracy theories straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted May 3, 2003 Share Posted May 3, 2003 you always have to question the author's motivation whenever you read something like this. But the book/author does point out some real problems, such as the difficulty many black voters had in Florida in 2000 and the gross, stupifying inefficiency of the IMF. But in my opinion there are better books to read, such as but I knew ASF would enjoy Palast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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