Jagsbch Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 We don't need no stinkin resolution Iraq resolution may not go before Security Council Palacio said withdrawal of the resolution was a possibility even if it had garnered the nine votes necessary for passage by the 15 member UN Security Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Exactly how many wars have been "officially" sanctioned by the UN? Two. Korea and the first Gulf War. The only reason Korea was sanctioned was because the Soviet Union walked out of the Security Council and therefore couldn't use the veto. No further resolutions are necessary. At this point, we are wasting time, thereby placing our soldiers at even greater risk. It's time to s*** or get off the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 France and Germany certainly didnt ask permission before they went after Kosovo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Plain and simple Bush should have done a Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Originally posted by luckydevi Plain and simple Bush should have done a Clinton. That's good advice for him. Now if he would only apply it to all things than we could get this country going again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 "That's good advice for him. Now if he would only apply it to all things than we could get this country going again!" You can thank Ronald Reagan policies which led to the boom in the economy during the 90's. You can also thank the republican held congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Originally posted by luckydevi "That's good advice for him. Now if he would only apply it to all things than we could get this country going again!" You can thank Ronald Reagan policies which led to the boom in the economy during the 90's. You can also thank the republican held congress. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 If Clinton really had his way the economy would be in worse shape. Clinton early ambitions were for higher taxes and an increase in spending, therefore a larger government role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoDrill Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Clinton balanced the budget. Reagan and Bush turned us into the world's largest debtor nation. Saying Reagan should get the credit for Clinton's success is like saying Carter should get credit for ending the cold war. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoDrill Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Originally posted by luckydevi If Clinton really had his way the economy would be in worse shape. Clinton early ambitions were for higher taxes and an increase in spending, therefore a larger government role. So, Bush will do better? Do better by running huge deficits? By fighting a costly war with no exit strategy with little financial help from others? ... while in the background the economy's in the tank, unemployment is soaring, national savings are at an all-time low, and the dollar is losing ground to a new, alternative reserve currency in the Euro? Dividend tax cuts. Yeah. That will fix everything. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Ronald Reagan policies played a large reason for the economic boom in the 90's. What most people fail to realize the recovery actually started under the first Bush adminstration. Economic growth, high employment and surging stock markets during the 90's have more to do with low international inflation, the strong dollar, and the transformation of the U.S. private sector which started under Reagan. The republican congress, Robert Rubin, and Alan Greenspan played a large role as well. Clinton adopted alot of conservative policies. (telecommunications and farm deregulation, welfare reform and tax cuts- all thanks to the republican congress) The North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement and the creation of the World Trade Organization also aided the economy. You can thank his republican predecessors for that. The end of the Cold War allowed Clinton to also cut military spending. This I can give credit to Clinton for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 Clinton balanced the budget. NO, the GOP controlled Congress balanced the budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 "Dividend tax cuts. Yeah. That will fix everything. " It will sure help alot. It will create tremendous economic growth. A great source of economic growth is productivity growth( could say its the most powerful source) Productivity growth comes from capital invested in new equipment, new technologies and new businesses which allow people to work more effectively. Eliminating taxes on dividends and retained earnings would increase the return on that invested capital. People with capital will invest more of it. The result will be more productivity and more economic growth Alot of people on the left bring out that Bush's plan will create deficits. There is no doubt that it will. However its not a short term plan, rather it is a long term plan. Common sense will tell you in the short term, tax cuts will create deficits. In the long term however tax cuts will create economic growth and a surplus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 much of the growth in the 90s was engineered by productivity gains incipient to captial investment in new, particularly IT, technologies. These kinds of investments are driven by competition, favorable tax rates, favorable interest rates, available capital, retained earnings, etc. the case can be made that the evident lowered discount rate that led to much of this owed to controlled spending and favorable monetary policy. companies invest when they know the government is going to regulate less, spend less, tax less...that's built into the equation. I don't much care who credit passess to (no pun intended)...I like the idea that this presupposes less federal spending, lower taxes, liquid capital markets, favorable depreciation schdeules...and on. so if this is what the dems are promising (while arguiing against reduced dividend taxes) I'm all for it. but we know....given the dynamics of that party and its internal interest groups that this isn't always the case. beware of sales people bearing snake oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 Originally posted by luckydevi "That's good advice for him. Now if he would only apply it to all things than we could get this country going again!" You can thank Ronald Reagan policies which led to the boom in the economy during the 90's. You can also thank the republican held congress. Yeah right! Thanks for the chuckle (no not Bonzo! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 Why don't we lower the payroll tax first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 not necessarily a bad idea....as we both know....even with the republicans I agree....there should be a corresponding reduction in spending........that's where the problems come.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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