LoudMouth12thMan Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Gibbs decision couldn't have come at a worse time. Gibbs decision couldn't have come at a better time. There is no argument for either statement. They are both true. Gibbs says it was "a tough decision to make..." Right! Its a conundrum at this point. If Joe's plan was to put Campbell in the best possible situation to achieve success as a starting quarterback in the NFL, then he must think that Campbell has potential that mirrors some of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game. Or... Gibbs plan was spoiled because of Brunell's ineptitude and failed attempts at emulating an professional football player this past Sunday (and many others that preceded it). Enter Campbell. The fans, media, owner, palyers, coaches, and the blind could have made this move. It was the right one. Get ready boys and girls. Our season is likely in the toilet. BUT, if you (the fans, players, coaches, etc.) want to find out what a kid is made of: Throw him out in the fire without a running game, an underachieving offensive line (at least currently), and a reeling team altogether. Don't for one second think that Betts is going to carry the load. If we don't make a carbon copy of the gameplan set out for Roethlisberger a couple year's back and paste it on Campbell's back, give him his last meal and tell him to call his family. The pressure this kid is facing is immense. If this TEAM doesn't step up for Jason, feed him to the lions. Make a case that Betts, when taking the handoff, won't fall down when lanes are open. What evidence do we have that states otherwise? Make a case that Campbell throwing check downs, screens, and 5 yard slants (when you need 8 yards) is any different than Ocho' Stinko (Czabe...that's friggin' hilarious). It isn't any different. Therefore, it all rests on Campbell's shoulders. We're not slowly working him in. We're not giving him a chance to get acclimated. We're already feeding him to the lions. I didn't hear anyone say, "this starts our rebuilding process..." Whether we're still hoping to win out or not.... Good Luck JC, I hope you're ready. You're not in high school being sent to the principal's office, and your not getting ready for a college game. This is slightly different. You'll see HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 yessssss another jason campbell starting thread............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 yessssss another jason campbell starting thread............. Read it kid. It'll make you smarter. By the way, you mind if I start my tenth thread (or so) on this site? For every hundred that most of you do, I'd figure my one to your hundred would suffice. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portisizzle Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 "the fans won't give him 2 - 3 weeks let alone 2 -3 years" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidernat Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 That was a decent thread loudmouth...I think that other kid was being sarcastic so I wouldn't worry about it much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I agree with you in many ways, but look at what they are doing to Vince Young in Tennessee. Sometimes you just have to throw them in there and make them learn. If they cant deal with it and figure out ways to succeed, maybe they dont need to be in there. I think JC has a lot more to work with than VY does. Either way they both have a lot of pressure and tons of expectations to live up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin48 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I think that Campbell being in the game will help the O line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 "the fans won't give him 2 - 3 weeks let alone 2 -3 years" It's not about the fans. It's about the way in which we're putting him in this situation. Barring a miracle or barring that we've been keeping the next Rivers or pre-crotchrocket accident victim Roethlisberger in hiding than we're setting him up for failure. Tough test for this guy. I will say this: If anyone can do it, its Campbell. He has adapted quite well in the past. Hope :point2sky HTTR I think that Campbell being in the game will help the O line. You mean b/c he can bail them out with his legs? Yeah, I see what you mean. That's certainly an option. Lets just hope he doesn't panic and do that on a regular basis. Doing that results in missing opportunities downfield, in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkforhall Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Aikman started on a 1-15 team, a horrible team. He was smashed on every play, it will be interesting to see how Campbell handles it all. Different chapter in the history of the Skins. I can't wait and am hoping for the best, but expecting the rookie mistakes. Lets get those mistakes out of the way now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Fakeman Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 They better give him at least a year...including the remaining games...and at least half of next season...and we better not bring in anybody like Trent Green or Byron Leftwhich...cause that will just cause a media stir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky*13 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 This team was going nowhere fast with brunell,so i see no reason to not put cambpell in,it's not like this team is in the thick of a playoff race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Execution56 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 The Redskins problems go much deeper than JC becoming the starting QB. The last time I checked, and that has been several times today, he is not listed on the depth chart of the defense. He is also not a member of our scouting department and will not help us use those precious FOUR draft selections (if we still have them), next season. I doubt that Coach Gibbs will hire him (or anyone else for that matter) as the General Manager of the team. So, playing JC is pretty much like putting a bandaid on a ruptured artery... `caio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 When you say get ready boys and girls are you referring to the G-boys and Cow-girls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 im so sick of this o-line BS. need i remind you that brunell is about as mobile as an iceskater in the desert, yet he was only sacked 12 times. 6 of those were in one bad game by the o-line (yes, they had an awful game in dallas, it happens). so pretty much, he was sacked 6 times in 8 games. thats less than a sack a game. campbell (regardless whether he can hit receivers and make good reads) can at least run away. brunell couldnt run away from an 93 year old paraplegic woman in an iron lung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Yeah, we're really feeding him to the lions. Have you even saw how bad Tampa Bay is this year?? Their defense has really fallen off since last season(like ours). If he stretches the field Sunday(unlike Mark) I don't care how many picks he throws...so long as he learns from his mistakes and progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgitta Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 need i remind you that brunell is about as mobile as an iceskater in the desert... Ok, happy? I just spit coffee all over myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Ok, happy? I just spit coffee all over myself. haha glad i could add some laughter to your work day at the expense of a horrid qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 im so sick of this o-line BS. need i remind you that brunell is about as mobile as an iceskater in the desert, yet he was only sacked 12 times. 6 of those were in one bad game by the o-line (yes, they had an awful game in dallas, it happens). so pretty much, he was sacked 6 times in 8 games. thats less than a sack a game. campbell (regardless whether he can hit receivers and make good reads) can at least run away. brunell couldnt run away from an 93 year old paraplegic woman in an iron lung. Keep smokin. Brunell was alot of things but he was always pretty good about getting the ball alway. With a rookie qb in there this underachieving i line will be exposed even more than they already are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Keep smokin. Brunell was alot of things but he was always pretty good about getting the ball alway. With a rookie qb in there this underachieving i line will be exposed even more than they already are. Brunell was also very good at taking a 5 step drop and turning it into a twelve step drop...right into the tackle and DE. And even if that wasn't sufficient enough, well, he could roll out the wrong way and right into the rush. Then there's the whole issue of stepping up into the pocket...he was against doing such things!! A bad QB can make an Oline look worse than what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Brunell was also very good at taking a 5 step drop and turning it into a twelve step drop...right into the tackle and DE.And even if that wasn't sufficient enough, well, he could roll out the wrong way and right into the rush. Then there's the whole issue of stepping up into the pocket...he was against doing such things!! A bad QB can make an Oline look worse than what it is. Im not argueing that he didnt make them look worse. But dont tell me that the o line has played well this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimpey42000 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 i think you gotta believe somehow this team wants to rally around this kid....i dont think they are that disgruntled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21Knock_U_Out Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Does anybody know if the line are giving up the sacks?Or are they coming from the backs/tight ends?It seems to me that a couple were on the tight ends and being missed by the back?Not sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimpey42000 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I think the really interesting thing is that the line has been holding up fine but there have been mismatches with tightends/h-backs on defensive ends....aside of the first Dallas game they havent been aweful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 uhhhh....I read it....still as smart as I was before.... You act like campbell played for mcneese st or something and never played a big game. He played in the SEC, and in the SEC, you have like eight big games a year. The crowds are way crazier, and there is NFL talent at almost every postion. give me a break with this throwing him to the lions nonsense. when do you suggest we start him. 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Keep smokin. Brunell was alot of things but he was always pretty good about getting the ball alway. With a rookie qb in there this underachieving i line will be exposed even more than they already are. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant believe i am seeing this...... Brunell was great at getting away if you consider breaking down before anyone even gets there and throwing the **** out of bounds before even giving yourself or your team an opportunity to make a play. REAL qbs stand in the pocket, make a tough throw and take the hit, or they role out, run or find the open RECEIVER. what does Brunell do....besides never get comfortable even when he has plenty of time, freak out way to soon, throw it to ladell betts or out of bounds. Thinking this line will have a tougher job protecting a 6'4 230 lb mobile qb is rediculous. brunell is 135 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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