Sarge Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I'm waiting for the ACLU to spring into action http://www.local6.com/spotlight/9992101/detail.html NYSSA, Ore. -- Officials at a public school in Oregon are defending a seventh-grade social studies unit on Islam that included students dressing in traditional Islamic dress. Kendlee Garner of Nyssa told the Ontario Argus Observer that she objected to the amount of time dedicated to the unit on Islam -- four weeks -- as well as the wearing of religious garb and the lack of parental notification. She said her son told her about the activity, and when she objected, he got an alternate assignment in the library. Nyssa school officials respond that teaching about Islam is not promoting the religion. Superintendent Don Grotting said it's part of meeting state standards that call for students to "understand the importance of the rise of Islam and its interaction with Europe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I guess the parents approved of it when they "signed the slip," so to speak, by allowing their children to attend public school. (See yesterday's museum thread.) The ACLU won't move. Now, if were a CHRISTIAN event that lasted four weeks you'd hear "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!" *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Black History Month lasts an entire month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 now what are you complaining about? For some guy whining every day about outrage by liberals, muslims, anyone, you do complain a lot. Oh yeah "well I don't chop heads off..." yeah well you have advocated a million times worse Oh and are you going to bring that BS about moral equivalency? I am not making you morally equivalent...you are making yourself morally equivalent. There that should save some ius from some of the trite responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 now what are you complaining about? For some guy whining every day about outrage by liberals, muslims, anyone, you do complain a lot.Oh yeah "well I don't chop heads off..." yeah well you have advocated a million times worse Oh and are you going to bring that BS about moral equivalency? I am not making you morally equivalent...you are making yourself morally equivalent. There that should save some ius from some of the trite responses. Wearing of religious garb? IN SCHOOL? ON PUBLIC PROPERTY? Can't have that. The ACLU said so Of course, they are probably to busy gearing up for their annual "Anti-Christmas" campaign to bother with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Wearing of religious garb? IN SCHOOL? ON PUBLIC PROPERTY?Can't have that. The ACLU said so Of course, they are probably to busy gearing up for their annual "Anti-Christmas" campaign to bother with this They wear christian choir robes every year for graduation... :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I guess the parents approved of it when they "signed the slip," so to speak, by allowing their children to attend public school. (See yesterday's museum thread.) The ACLU won't move. Now, if were a CHRISTIAN event that lasted four weeks you'd hear "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!" *sigh* Funny I bet you would be fine if it was only a four week Christian teaching. And be real pissed if Muslims complained about like you are this. Double standards are nice. For the record - I disagree with what the school did. Four weeks on one subject?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I have to agree. Imagine a muslim parent (or any other religion besides Christianity) voicing their outrage about their child being told to wear a crucifix in class. This is hypocricy, plain and simple, despite how anyone in this thread attempts to defend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 No one is complaining that they did mock beheadings?? :paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I have to agree. Imagine a muslim parent (or any other religion besides Christianity) voicing their outrage about their child being told to wear a crucifix in class. This is hypocricy, plain and simple, despite how anyone in this thread attempts to defend it. I agree. I just don't agree with the Christian arguement of 'Waahh, if we can't do it neither can they. :cry:' NOBODY should be to do it. Though, I do appreciate that the school allowed the kid to work on another project. I would have no problem if this was more of a voluntary project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Funny I bet you would be fine if it was only a four week Christian teaching. And be real pissed if Muslims complained about like you are this. Double standards are nice.For the record - I disagree with what the school did. Four weeks on one subject?? Naw...I'd just call it "non-revisionist American History." But teaching what our Founders really believed, and teaching what our Nation was really built on, is just plain "unconstitutional" these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Naw...I'd just call it "non-revisionist American History." But teaching what our Founders really believed, and teaching what our Nation was really built on, is just plain "unconstitutional" these days. Slaving owning and not paying taxes? You really want to teach those morals to our kids? Or should we just pick the beliefs of their's that you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 now what are you complaining about? For some guy whining every day about outrage by liberals, muslims, anyone, you do complain a lot.Oh yeah "well I don't chop heads off..." yeah well you have advocated a million times worse Oh and are you going to bring that BS about moral equivalency? I am not making you morally equivalent...you are making yourself morally equivalent. There that should save some ius from some of the trite responses. Who are you directing this at and how has that person "advocated a million times worse"? Worse than beheadings in the name of a god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 IF the founding fathers wanted this to be a "Christian" nation, they would have made it so. They would have incorporated Christianity into the government, but they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 No one is complaining that they did mock beheadings??:paranoid: Or giving them credit for allowing an alternate learning assignment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Slaving owning and not paying taxes? You really want to teach those morals to our kids? Or should we just pick the beliefs of their's that you like? Um...slave owning is/was a Christian principle? Who doesn't pay taxes according to the laws of our land? Where is the moral breakdown you allude to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 They wear christian choir robes every year for graduation... :paranoid: No one is complaining that they did mock beheadings??:paranoid: You're really working hard...maybe you need to go get some gasoline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 IF the founding fathers wanted this to be a "Christian" nation, they would have made it so. They would have incorporated Christianity into the government, but they didn't. Their LIVES, and thus their decisions, incorporated it into our government. But somehow that doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 IF the founding fathers wanted this to be a "Christian" nation, they would have made it so. They would have incorporated Christianity into the government, but they didn't.Please not another "Christian nation"/Founding Fathers thread...:shot: I can't take the stress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Or giving them credit for allowing an alternate learning assignment? IMHO, I think a month is too long for any subject. However, just to point out, Islam is a religion, however, it is also more of a culture as well. They have attire that is associate with them. Christians do not. If they had a month study on Christianity, which they may have, they really couldn't have a "dress up as a Christian month", because there is not stereotype of Christian attire. Correct? That being said, I'm not a fan of a month long study into any religion in school. But I'm sure that they were not being led in Islamic prayer or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I'm waiting for the ACLU to spring into action Its Oregan, you're going to be waiting a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Please not another "Christian nation"/Founding Fathers thread...:shot: I can't take the stress! I agree. Repeated postings of the obvious does get stressful. I've rarely seen a better example of denial in my life. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Please not another "Christian nation"/Founding Fathers thread...:shot: I can't take the stress! Skinsfan51 insists on pressing the issues that all the founding fathers were Christians when many of us have produced an equal number of quotes from the founding fathers showing that they had little faith in organized religion... :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I've never seen anybody so upset that the United States isn't an Official Christian Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I agree. Repeated postings of the obvious does get stressful. I've rarely seen a better example of denial in my life. :doh: Then please stop insisting that the founding fathers were all Christians creating a Christian nation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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