Yomar Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Wendell Bryant? It wouldn't get much better than that.<br /><br /><a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2002/draft/" target="_blank">http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2002/draft/</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 In the now infamous words of Art:<br /><br />CNN/SI is not fat. Nor are they ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 I'll mock this mock! There is no way that the Bengals would trade up in the draft with the Lions to select QB Joey Harrington. Mike Brown is too cheap to want to pay the money that a #3 pick, especially a QB would command. There is a reason that the NFL put a minimum salary cap and Mike Brown is it.<br /><br />I only wish we could get Wendell Bryant at 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GURU Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 That would be very interesting, but there are some eyebrow-raising picks. Alex Brown and Dennis Johnson aren't guys that have been mentioned as first round picks for a long time. Same with Larry Tripplett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted April 12, 2002 Author Share Posted April 12, 2002 Nighthawk, I had the same initial reaction, but then it is just as possible that Detroit takes Harrington @ 3 and Cincy takes Buchanan @ 10. That being said, I don't think Bryant is going to fall past the Titans in this scenario, but a brother can dream can't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Excellent sig, Nighthawk. I've got about 20 Hopper paintings stored as wallpaper. He's become a favorite.<br /><br /> I will be very, very happy if we come away with Bryant. I'm not even looking at him in the draft 'cause I know he'll be gone. But you just never know. <br /><br /> I do agree it's hard to imagine the Bengals paying $ to move up. Mike Brown's been whining for a while about the cost of top ten picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Thanks TC, I've been a fan of his work for some time now. I'm lucky enough to get to visit the Smithsonian and see a few of his works plus seeing the original Nighthawks when I visit Chicago. I hope to see more of his work when I go to New York next month.<br /><br />If the 'skins come away with Wendell Bryant than it would be a steal or there's something everyone else picking before us knows that we don't. <br /><br />Dream a little dream but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 except for the TSN mock, that's the worst one i've seen. not that i don't want wendell bryant, but it ain't gonna happen, not at 18. i think over half of those picks are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 I'm gonna go out on a limb and make three big predictions <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />1) David Carr will be taken by the Houston Texans.<br />2) Jeremy Shockey will be taken by the Giants<br />3) Additionally, 15 other players will be taken before we pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 I don't think the Skins are going to go DT at #18.<br /><br />I see that #1 pick being used on a WR, especially if Gaffney drops.<br /><br />I DO see a lineman being taken in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 TCO, don't be too sure about #2. With Ron Stone going to the Niners, the Giants could very well grab Fonoti and take a TE later on.<br /><br />With Jure(Sid)vicius signing with the Bucs and Ike Hilliard looking to be traded, they may even draft a WR.<br /> <br /> <small>[ April 12, 2002, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: Jimbo ]</small> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Jimbo...<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Giants | Looking at the Draft - posted at KFFL (http://nfl.kffl.com)<br />7:58 PT: Newsday reports a source familiar with the New York Giants confirmed the team will probably take Miami TE Jeremy Shockey in the first-round. The Giants have the 15th overall selection. If Shockey is gone, the team could consider some wide receivers but may hold off on that position until later rounds and turn their focus to defensive ends.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 C'mon TCO. Even I'm a souce "familiar" with the Giants. <img border="0" alt="[laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh.gif" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 The Giants have been resigned to losing Ron Stone since this time LAST YEAR! They feel they have good young interior linemen and the only way they take a OL is if he can play Left Tackle. Someone like Levi Jones is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 I'll go with bulldog on this one-- I see a WR at 18. You know, a leopard can't change his spots, or at least it's really hard for them. I just don't see Spurrier passing up on Gaffney if he's there. <br /><br />I know I'm in the minority here, but I kind of like building our defense as the Eagles have built there's-- dominating back 7, ok up front. <br /><br />We've got the Champ-Smoot-Lavar-Armstead thing going right now. Add Trotter to the mix and that is amazing. <br /><br />Now, I don't want to ignore the D line. I like Wynn and Big Daddy and I can live with EITHER Smith or Coleman. That leaves one spot open-- almost assuredly a DT.<br /><br />I REALLY trust Lewis to make this work. Give him those horses in the back 7 and I think he can find guys that can do what we need in the middle. A second round pick, late free agent, etc... could solve our problem there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCS:BraveCaringSoul Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Nigththawk, That sig is sweeeeet! Add me to the list of Extremeskins Hopper fans. 'Nighthawks' in particular being one of my favorite paintings during my existential angst period...hey wait a minute I'm still in that period!!! For the uninitiated here's a little blurb on Hoppers masterwork: "Apparently, there was a period when every college dormitory in the country had on its walls a poster of Hopper's Nighthawks; it had become an icon. It is easy to understand its appeal. This is not just an image of big-city loneliness, but of existential loneliness: the sense that we have (perhaps overwhelmingly in late adolescence) of being on our own in the human condition. When we look at that dark New York street, we would expect the fluorescent-lit cafe to be welcoming, but it is not. There is no way to enter it, no door. The extreme brightness means that the people inside are held, exposed and vulnerable. They hunch their shoulders defensively. Hopper did not actually observe them, because he used himself as a model for both the seated men, as if he perceived men in this situation as clones. He modeled the woman, as he did all of his female characters, on his wife Jo. He was a difficult man, and Jo was far more emotionally involved with him than he with her; one of her methods of keeping him with her was to insist that only she would be his model."From Jo's diaries we learn that Hopper described this work as a painting of "three characters." The man behind the counter, though imprisoned in the triangle, is in fact free. He has a job, a home, he can come and go; he can look at the customers with a half-smile. It is the customers who are the nighthawks. Nighthawks are predators - but are the men there to prey on the woman, or has she come in to prey on the men? To my mind, the man and woman are a couple, as the position of their hands suggests, but they are a couple so lost in misery that they cannot communicate; they have nothing to give each other. I see the nighthawks of the picture not so much as birds of prey, but simply as birds: great winged creatures that should be free in the sky, but instead are shut in, dazed and miserable, with their heads constantly banging against the glass of the world's callousness. In his Last Poems, A. E. Housman (1859-1936) speaks of being "a stranger and afraid/In a world I never made." That was what Hopper felt - and what he conveys so bitterly." http://www.artchive.com/artchive/H/hopper/nighthwk.jpg.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCS:BraveCaringSoul Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 GOOD LORD!!!! I just noticed that my member number changed to 665!!! I am one away from being...dare I say it...THE ANTI-CHRIST!!! May the Saints preserve us!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Nighthawk and BCS....I read recently that one of the largest collections of original Hoppers in the world belongs to comedian Steve Martin. I wish I could own just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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