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2 minutes ago, clietas said:

Coups are fine as long as my bank account is straight. 🤣

 

Pure comedic gold.

Please post where I said that

1 minute ago, The Evil Genius said:

I'll make this easy.

 

Out of what is in the BBB, what specifically is bad for Americans?

Thanks for asking again. My apologies for not responding sooner. I'm driving and trying to keep up with all this and when I get home I got to help with sick kids but I will post what I legitimately disagree with as an American

5 minutes ago, Fresh8686 said:

You can reframe and bypass what is going on in this thread all you want, but it’s just more nonsensical ego protection that derails actual fact based discussion. 
 

It’s ridiculous. This is a policy discussion thread not a vomit what you think, feel, and believe with no substance thread. 
 

We’re not going to bend over backwards to validate the fantasies in your head. 
 

Please read something with intellectual integrity and come back with a specific detail of BBB that you find to be stupid or socialist.

It's so funny that you criticize me and then you do the exact same thing with your intellectual vomit. 

10 minutes ago, Fresh8686 said:

 

 

And also answer my previous question to you asking which of Trump’s policies was worth us losing our record of democratic peaceful transfers of power. Please explain to me how people who still support Trump are not traitors or ignorant marks. 

Interesting that you take my previous post that you referenced not only out of context but it's not even what I said or the question you asked me. All I simply stated was that I wasn't a trump supporter and even though I thought he was an a hole my personal wealth liked his policy. To answer your question here I would say that's a red flag for anyone that still supports Trump running for presidency again but what happened at the Capitol had nothing to do with my wallet liking him or not

This is kind of fun I'm being attacked from all angles. What's even better is I don't really like politicians in general, I didn't make a provocative statement and you guys are in love with me. All you had to say was, "Wow you know what there is some stupid socialist spending attached to that bill, but I think the overall bill has potential."

I don't have to be a fly on the wall of the White House to not notice that Biden made a big mistake by allowing the progressives to dictate to him instead of staying true to his moderate core. I think it's fair to say at this point that he has some major problems with being a pushover. That's on him and his staff. 

What's ironic is that Manchin most likely saved his presidency.

And yes I do believe that even though the BBB bill is championed as good for Americans, I don't think it's good for America. I know you guys can't wait for my bullet point essay

 It's kind of humorous that you insult me just because you don't agree with me and think I don't know what I'm talking about because I didn't write a formal essay. Maybe I will find time tonight

1 minute ago, clietas said:

 

How is that even achievable since everything the democrats have been proposing for decades is viewed by conservatives as destructive to our society?

It always seems like a miracle when the two sides actually agree on something and politicians make progress. In this particular instance I would blame the progressive Democrats for being allowed to have so much influence over the bill.

In the end I think Manchin saved Joe Biden's presidency by not allowing this to pass

23 minutes ago, tshile said:

Out infrastructure is lagging behind and falling apart. And I’ve never met anyone who disagrees with that, or disagrees with the idea that we should fix that problem. 
 

Make it Joe Biden’s administration and the democrats that want to pass the bill, and a solid 45% of the country screams socialism. 
 

the last five years have made a solid case that most people aren’t responsible enough to vote. 

The infrastructure bill has already been passed and signed by the president

27 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

Ok, I'll bite. How is the BBB not beneficial to Americans?

It's a socialist spending bill heavily influenced by Bernie Sanders and the progressive democrats that initiates a lot of spending for programs that don't make money but rather give out more handouts. If it was balanced out more in a bipartisan fashion there could be room for some of these things

I'm having a hard time understanding why Biden and company are so surprised by Manchin's stance on the BBB bill. What did they think (actually their lack of thought) was going to happen when Biden campaigned as a moderate and now less than a year into his presidency they have socialist kook Bernie Sanders writing policy that's supposed to be beneficial to Americans?

29 minutes ago, zskins said:

Don't. Really. Want. Carr! 

I question his leadership abilities but he is a top half of the league starter and a considerable upgrade to Heinicke at this point

12 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

These tweets seem to agree with me about how stupid the giants are. Point and laugh. It’s ok. It won’t hurt you, i promise. Point and laugh at the losers  

Maybe the losers will be gracious enough to supply the champagne if we beat their ass and claim a playoff berth during Week 18 at MetLife

2 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said:

might've taken that a little too far, considering my last smackdown

Thanks for clarifying. I'm not under the assumption that a smackdown is good or bad - depends on the situation and what you learn from it. Also, for what it's worth I didn't view @Jumbowords as a smackdown.

7 minutes ago, bearrock said:

 

Well, to be fair, your two posts could be read either way ("personal benefit and good national policy" vs "personal benefit IS good national policy") Appreciate the clear up to show that you fall in category 1 (And I won't make assumptions on whether you feel the principle is actually applicable to Trump since you only mentioned how the Trump policies affected your wallet without  opining whether you believe his policies were good national policies independent of their effect on your bottom line. Though it does pique my curiosity on whether you would consider policies detrimental to your interests to still be good national policies.)

 

 My point and hope still stands that I hope not many Americans fall in category 2 (regardless  of my hope,, my expectation is somewhat dubious on that account).

My apologies for not being more concise with my words. I believe I was reprimanded for not sticking to topic in this particular thread so I will only say thanks for the post and maybe we will meet again in the future

5 minutes ago, bearrock said:

 

 

I would hope that Americans consider more than the impact to their wallets in evaluating policies.

If you used my quote correctly I implied personal wealth along with good national policies, offset by ahole manners

12 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Not the best endorsement for Teddy, not that I was into him to begin with

 

 

 

All that talent on the offense and Bridgewater is worthless. I wonder if a younger, more modern thinking coach other than conservative Fangio would just roll with Lock and see what happens

3 hours ago, NickyJ said:

Last I saw of Breeland he was getting burned by Roethlisberger before the Vikings pulled out their win.

I'm not going to post the links but Breeland has been awful this year in both pass coverage and penalties assessed

14 minutes ago, Jumbo said:

 

why quote me just to add a vapid (as written) off-topic comment?

 

 

as a noob, if you're going to post in these topics please write posts in a way that keeps them directly attached to the topic and preferably adds something of meaning or humor...you seem to be able to do this in the stadium  

 

to try to tie your comment to mine, i'll ask if you think making the extra money was an acceptable tradeoff for how he governed as potus  

 

Complicated topic to debate over. As with a lot things there is good and evil and often times we look for what supports our point of view/agenda instead of starting with the big picture in mind. 

In defense of my response to your quoted post, I saw an extreme statement by you wishing the same for Manchin as all POS Trump supporters and offered an alternative view. I didn't and still don't support Trump's antics or conduct but to answer your question, yes in the end I would trade good national policies coming from an ahole compared to incompetent policies coming from a sweet talking politician. If our country survives this century hopefully someday we will have both

36 minutes ago, Jumbo said:

at this point, after carefully following manchin's actual comments (not media takes) on these matters over the last year, i wish the same things  for that corrupt privileged pos that i wish for all trump supporters

 

I couldn't stand Trump, but my wallet liked him

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32895428/sources-nfl-nflpa-discussing-new-covid-19-policies-lighten-burden-vaccinated-players

12 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Fair enough, but the post I was responding to was talking about how guys like Heinicke or whoever would look "mortal" in an airport...so basically an everyday setting. I just disagree and think that with most professional athletes outside of huge basketball players or offensive linemen you probably wouldn't really be able to tell.

 

I've met a decent number of pro athletes over the years and the only guys who I reacted to in my head with "holy crap, is this guy even human?" were large NBA players and football offensive or defensive linemen. Other guys just looked like dudes in good shape in regular street clothes, including baseball players, pro MMA fighters, football players, amongst others.

 

Either way, this is probably getting off topic. I just found the whole "This is why some people love Heinicke and some despise him...because he's just like us!" thing to be relatively dumb in general.

Yes, I was initially lazy, read your post I quoted and played devil's advocate (based on my experience) without knowing the full context. My apologies there, but I do think professoonal athletes stand out in most instances

16 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I try out

Veteran minimum sounds pretty good, but "Happy Thanksgiving" will be paying your salary

36 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

So you're telling me if I had a room full of guys wearing regular street clothes, all of them between 5'9 and 6'2 or so and in excellent shape, you'd be able to instantly pick out who were the professional athletes and who were just people in really good shape? I'm skeptical.

No I didn't say anything about your scenario, my point was that I thought I was in phenomenal shape and compared to those around me I was but put me in a room with professional athletes and I would look average.

I think it's fair to say Heinicke is the physical peak for most every day athletes. Once those guys take off their uniform they're a lot bigger than you think they are

1 hour ago, mistertim said:

 

Outside of basketball and sumo wrestling, most elite sports players look pretty mortal (though point guards tend to be pretty mortal size). If you didn't know who they were you probably wouldn't notice Aaron Rodgers or DeAndre Hopkins at an airport. Same with Mike Trout or Juan Soto. Same with most UFC fighters. They'd just look like regular guys who were in good shape.

I disagree with this. When I was 22 years old weighed 200 lbs, 6' tall with 7% body fat, 46R suit size with 18.5" biceps able to squat, bench and fight better than most men I was around, but size me up to a professional athlete and I would be average at best. 

56 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

1 poor decision maker

2 throws a wobbly Turkey of a football

3 moxie and other buzz words

4 has no business being an nfl starter

 

Things taylor and I have in common. 

So what happens if your above points continue to happen, but Heinicke wins despite the 3 flaws he shares with you?

3 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

There is no scenario where Heinicke is our starter next season, so who cares. If we draft Howell and Zappe, Heinicke can be the QB2 and probably a great mentor. 

I'm not a Heinicke lover but if he balls out the rest of the season and wins a playoff game or two then he probably would have a good shot at being the starter next year. That's why they play the games despite what we think

Leave it to the NFL brass to make covid testing more complicated and dense instead of just simplifying it so vaccinated players could be available. Now we have to be talking about viral loads on here 😄

2 hours ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said:

Nothing like having protocols in place then just changing and relaxing them because the original ones started to make life too difficult...

 

Player safety and game integrity concerns seem fairly obvious to me, should be an interesting weekend in that respect.

I'm guessing during the playoffs the league won't even test vaccinated players unless they have symptoms