Just now, The Evil Genius said:

He's already dieing cognitively. That'squite evident when his handlers allow him to speak. He even has problems now reading scripted speeches. 

Agreed, and he sounds much less coherent than he did in the 2016 campaign...not that his flunkies have noticed.

Many times I think that Trump is only popular because he's a celebrity and his followers think his unhinged comments are entertaining. I guess that's what it's like in this age of social media.

12 minutes ago, Hersh said:

 

It's not the education system that's the problem, it's the media. 

Perhaps, but the fact that people are willing to dump our democratic ideals just to put someone in power who will elevate their "in group" at the expense of others also indicates that our education system has done a poor job of not only educating students on American exceptionalism, but on the evils of totalitarian and communist ideologies.

We USED to teach those things, in Civics. Now, teachers are constantly telling kids our country is evil because of its own history. I'm not saying go back to pro-US propaganda that was taught in the early 1900s, but there has to be a middle ground.

I would agree media is the sole problem IF we all watched the same media. Trump supporters don't watch CNN or any of those other channels, so they aren't even being informed of the terrible things Trump says he will do in a second term. At a fundraiser over the weekend he said he would have bombed Moscow and Beijing...and that hasn't really even come out in any of the media, left- or right-wing.

I'm baffled that religious Reagan-supporting patriotic folks would even consider backing Trump in the first place.

5 minutes ago, Hersh said:

 

I don't think this will be all that close of an election. The polls we have seen to show Trump close or ahead have been so laughably bad. They've showed Trump winning or being tied with women and younger voting blocks and there is zero chance that happens. This is going to be a Roe v Wade election again throughout the country and we've seen the results of that. 

 

The only pause I've had recently is the Israeli-Palestinian mess. Netanyahu is and will continue to do things as part of their actions to help Trump. 

Turkey's PM Erdogan has called on the Islamic world to unite against Israel. If we have another 9/11-type attack here in the US before the election, then Trump definitely wins.

13 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

Jenna Ellis may have once been a legit lawyer, but that stopped and she became a political apparatchik once she started pushing the false election conspiracy theories (poorly) disguised as legal arguments after Trump lost.  So, for her, losing her law license doesn't really matter, and someone in the political arena will likely hire her for a job or she'll like, have a podcast or other grift that is politically adjacent and she'll hint at having legal expertise without actually claiming to be a barred attorney (or maybe she still has a license in another state). 

She'll have to move to a state like Idaho for work, since only MAGA clients would hire her.

I keep hoping these people wake up and have an epiphany and realize how they paid the price while Trump gets away with everything. But I doubt it will happen soon.

If Trump wins, I'm sure she'll get a senior post in the Department of Justice.

There is truly something wrong with our education system and media when so many people who are going to vote for Trump seem to think January 6th was just fine.

15 hours ago, El Mexican said:

 

For a moment there I thought I saw a taco holder LOL

You're not crazy...

In fact, that's what many here on this board initially thought of when it was rolled out! But that's what happens when the owner lets his wife design the identity of the team...

10 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

Of course Trump doesn't understand, he's never been held accountable by the judicial system in his entire life. Besides, the 'rebuttal' or 'correction' already took place...it's called his lawyers' testimony!

Trump doesn't get that the more he posts things like this the more scared he looks.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-russia-china-fundraiser-b2552749.html

If you weren't already alarmed enough...Trump said during latest fundraiser that he would have bombed Moscow and Beijing...and I'm sure surprised attendees will talk themselves into agreeing.

13 hours ago, hail2skins said:

A Trump victory in November (which I think is probable) is going to result in too many more Republicans and indies who will think 2020 must've been stolen. Just terrible.

Which would only strengthen Trump's eventual argument that if we can't trust elections...then why not just ban elections altogether? He'd rule until 2032 and then Don Jr's turn, then Eric, then Barron.

It's scary to realize how little people in our country understand about the creeping nature of authoritarianism...or that it doesn't matter because their "in group" will benefit from it.

This defeats the entire purpose of civilization in the first place, and will return humanity to the Stone Age.

They will vote for Trump even if he goes to prison...just like many folks keep throwing good money after bad by doubling down on stupid. The Texas GOP is sending out warning flyers saying they will track how people vote and a Repub in that state doesn't want to have a vote for a Dem on their record.

Trump has already won by convincing all of his voters that our judicial system is completely corrupt. He will NOT accept the outcome of the election if he loses and there will be violence...although it's likely that the election vote-counting will be delayed by obstructionist Trumpies.

Trumpies have been convinced that Biden is the most corrupt president in history, including Nixon.

In part I blame social media for spreading information that people only agree with already...many Trumpies apparently don't even know about a lot of his authoritarian rants, and these people are getting all their 'news' off social media.

Trump is out there talking and campaigning every single day, he's being seen even if he sounds like a raving lunatic. Biden hides in the White House, even though that's not entirely true, it is the impression people are getting.

How will all these minorities respond if Trump is elected and MORE of them get shot or deported...when will the epiphany come that they were wrong?

I'm hoping that one day Trump will be long gone and I have a feeling that a lot of Trumpies will deny ever supporting him in the first place. But we're not there yet.

https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2024/05/27/nation-world-news/trumps-post-verdict-playbook-anger-and-retribution-regardless-of-the-outcome/

Trump’s post-verdict playbook: Anger and retribution, regardless of the outcome

9 minutes ago, PokerPacker said:

Capone was taken down for cheating on his taxes.  Why not Trump?

He can just pay the fines. Plus, most of his followers would claim he's being harassed since everyone cheats on their taxes. 

Russia will use any ceasefire to rebuild and just continue the war later. They will continue using Siberian troops as cannon fodder so the dominant Russians won't care...if you think our citizens are alienated from the soldiers who protect the US, Russia is far worse.

Ukraine will have to give up the land they already lost, but that doesn't mean they have to make it easy for Putin to pull his head out of the noose. Of course if Putin uses nukes all bets are off.

The Europeans deserve a lot of blame...they continued to buy natural gas from Russia after the 2008 and 2014 invasions...no wonder Putin thought they'd do nothing this time.

Putin believes that Russian culture means he has the right to dominate and invade his neighbors...no matter that those countries want.

What's amazing about this "assassination" nonsense that Rump is spouting is that, according to his own lawyer's testimony, a POTUS should have that right.

So what's the problem?

Maybe we'll devolve into a parliamentary-type system, which can be chaotic but may make more sense in this polarized period.

10 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

 

If the GOP splits in two..why would moderate democrats ever move right? Wouldn't they just stay where they are and dominate both maga and whatever remains of the pre maga party? 

 

 

Out of political necessity, such as supporting Ukraine, which would traditionally been in the GOP's bucket. There's a vacuum there that the Democrats have had to fill, since Trump and his cronies would rather let Russia "do whatever the hell they want to."

Although Biden still supports the progressive agenda, there is some question that the rise of progressive politics has helped fuel the MAGA backlash against it... just my two cents. Biden may be forced to run more towards the center in the election than he wants to.

36 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

Fwiw I think the GOP pre maga is gone and it's never coming back. They've gone full dumbass and you don't come back from that. 

I think the GOP could split in two, because it's clear that Trump Madness has overtaken half the party. That forces moderate Democrats to become more like the traditional GOP was in order to balance out the crazy.

3 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

 

These two posts are exactly what I agree with, if you support any Republican who supports their party's presidential candidate, you are supporting Nazi sympathizers. In fact you are a Nazi sympathizer. I too am tired of ****footing around calling out who these people are and what they are doing to destroy our country. At 72, I don't have the patience or time to coddle people who won't name who they are. They've been doing this since Nixon! Each iteration is worse. I'm not having it!

What I don't understand is that honest-to-God Republicans are the type of people who would have fought AGAINST the Nazis in WW II. Not surprisingly, the newer generation doesn't get that...or maybe they do, and would have gladly supported Hitler had he won the war. The winners get to write the history books.

19 hours ago, Conn said:

I’m guessing there’s a ton of admin work being done behind the scenes to wrangle dozens of other alumni into syncing their availability to be there for this big event. Lots of scheduling work to be done before they can just announce what game it’s going to be, probably 

Let's hope they changed the locks on Jason Wright's office door.

Wouldn't surprise me if China invaded before our election this November, just in case Trump wins. Everyone was wrong about China in the 90s and 00s...opening up free market trading with them did NOT make them embrace democracy and freedom.

And now they're behaving like Japan before WW II.

Haley just proved that Trump was right...she is a birdbrain. It's very short-sighted on her part, but maybe that's one of the problems with our political system where people's memories reset every 4 years and they can't see more than 4 years into the future. Does Haley think Trump will put her in his cabinet if he wins? HE WILL NOT.

Haley's flip-flopping after criticizing Trump so heavily will be brought up for the next election...and guarantee she loses.

Haley's smart move would have been to continue witholding her direct support. Now it looks like Trump was right last week when he said all her voters would come to him, which I suspect they will or just not vote...maybe some will go to Biden for sanity's sake but let's be honest: Biden isn't exactly exciting anyone.

At the end of the day people continue to treat Trump like a celebrity and not a politician, and this country is in serious trouble whether he wins or not. If he wins, it's obvious. If he loses, there will be riots.

I've been saying that for weeks...only my prediction was he'd nominate one of his own kids as VP.

16 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

I absolutely expect him to sue. And appeal and delay and appeal.  

 

Until the day before he's ordered to testify under oath. Then he will drop the charges. 

In all this confusion, I wouldn't be surprised if tRump wound up suing himself. Or appeal a case he's already won.

Just now, Jumbo said:

Been expecting a hung jury all along, based on the (cynical or rationally justified) likelihood of x number of magas deciding they would try to plant themselves in camo and one of them pulling it off. 

 

And of course trump world will wield any acquittal like a cudgel on his other cases.

 

"Witch Hunts!!!"

 

 

If he's convicted, his supporters will cry that our justice system is corrupt for convicting him.

If he's acquitted, his supporters will cry that our justice system is corrupt for trying to convict him.

We can't win.

I'm a bit skeptical of a full conviction myself, but Costello's emails don't help his defense. It's absurd to believe all these people did things without tRump's knowledge or approval, all in the name of protecting him...and that if tRump knew he would be SHOCKED!!🤨

It's the same with the mafia defense: how can you believe the witnesses who were former mobsters themselves and told lies? Well, circumstantial evidence piles up and mafia bosses were convicted on that, even though they tried the same "I had no idea what these wiseguys were doing" defense.

If this jury is competent, they will see through the defense and convict...but that's only if there isn't some deluded MAGA troll on the jury.