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1 hour ago, skinny21 said:

I found the VR stuff in that Daniels article pretty fascinating.  Seems like a tool that could have pretty huge implications in terms of development.  Heck, just the ability to use that for guys that aren’t getting many reps - backups or young 3rd stringers - could be a game changer.  The potential to use it for measuring processing speed, or the ability to identify defenses has to be pretty attractive as well, though I presume it’ll take some time/work to get it to that point?

aI think Josh Allen also trained with VR after his rookie year to improve his game. 

1 hour ago, Warhead36 said:

Kingsley is starting to become my LT of choice if we stay at 36. But I still think a trade up for one with a higher floor is a safe bet.

Kingsley is now creeping up in the PFF mock draft simulator, which I have set to operate on consensus, not who they favor. He's pretty frequently in the end of the 1st now. 

If we draft Jayden Daniels, I’d love to add a WR that can get deep reliably and track the deep ball. Reuniting Daniels with Brian Thomas could be fruitful and exciting. 

I think that Verse and Mina are both going higher than that.

5 hours ago, RWJ said:

That is, it.  That's his ONLY criticism.  He can't take the shots the big dogs are going to put on him. We both know it.  That's my concern.  He's straight up talented and love the guy!  Seriously.  SEC is the best hands down but you said about the Pros being more advanced and when the dogs come to hunt, they are out for blood.  If we do draft Daniels, Peters and Co. to include most especially the coaching staff need to ensure he can slide before contact properly and coach him up to be the best and he's protected.  

It’s not his only criticism. It’s not even the one that bothers me the most. He has one of the weakest arms of the top 6 QB’s in the draft. He doesn’t throw over the middle or make tight window throws. His pressure to sack ratio is so bad, it would make him a historical outlier if he is successful. 
 

If Daniels had Drake Maye’s arm and made tight window throws, he’d be my solid QB2 if he weighed 190. 

Ja’tavion Sanders discussion starts at 56:52. If you were listening without them mentioning the player’s name, you’d think they could be describing Jordan Reed. 

WR, OT,OG, TE. The OL could be completely transformed after a year of development. Solid WR core. TE depth at least, without a true dangerous receiving threat though. 
 

one thing I’ll note is that Jordan Morgan and Chop Robinson are consistently going in Rd 1 now, in these mocks. 

3 hours ago, Going Commando said:

 

I like Michael Penix though.  No way I would choose him instead of Maye, but if we were picking third, I would trade back and pick him instead of Daniels or McCarthy top five.  I think he's better than both of them.  He's a lot stronger than them and he's creative and anticipates really well.  I think his pocket mobility and elusiveness are the best in the class, and he sees the field almost as well as Maye and Williams.  Aside from his injury history, the only thing I don't like about his game is the ugly, super low release.

I agree. Love Penix as a guy later in the first. Somebody could really get a steal. I like Maye and Williams better. I’m not sure about Daniels. But, it wouldn’t surprise me if Penix became a big time player in the right situation. 
 

If I was Pittsburg, for instance, I would rather have taken a shot on Penix. Maybe Atlanta should draft him. Kirk can’t play forever. 

Regarding Daniel’s, it’s not just the speed and strength of NFL defenders compared to college. It’s also a 17 game season plus the playoffs. That’s a lot of cumulative wear for a runner. 

13 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:

Most of the clips in this vid are from the "behind the QB" perspective. I have not seen this angle on a lot of these plays.

 

Hits a lil' different.

 

 

That was an awesome video. Thanks. That should be a standard every throw of the game replay angle. Also, that deep ball touch. Crazy. I think I want Maye, but if we take Daniels, I'd also be very excited. 

I want that highlight video, from the same angle, for Maye and Williams. 

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but...

How high is Max Melton being mocked?

FWIW. 
 

Also, I’d be excited to have Daniels. A bit more worried though. Short term and long term. 
 

Something that I haven’t seen talked about a lot is, what happens if both are great. How long do you get peak Jayden Daniels? His game is so tied to his athleticism, and he’s already an older prospect. Drake Maye could be peak Drake Maye for 12 years easy. Is Jayden going to be fading in 7 years because his athleticism is waning at age 30? Even if he never does get that massive injury?

Can anybody find Drake Maye’s pressure to sack ratio for just 2022?

40 minutes ago, Going Commando said:

 

Someone will emerge to play LT.  And if it doesn't happen this year, that's OK.  We don't need a dominant player there either.  The truth is that the shotgun spread passing game killed the premium value of the OT position, and many of the best lines in the NFL are running low drafted developmental types at LT, who aren't special players.  Look at what Philly, Chicago, Kansas City, and Green Bay all have at LT.  We can be OK if we have to go this route too.  If we have to draft a Kingsley Suamataia or Patrick Paul or Blake Fisher or Kiran Amegadjie in the second or third round, then that is a good outcome.

I also don't want to reach. But, moving up into a range where OT is BPA is a different thing. I think protection is critical for a rookie QB. 

Also, look how athletic this OT is.  Tylan Grable, UCF. 6'6", 306 pounds, arms 33 & 5/8", hands 10 & 1/8, 4.95 40, 1.69 10yd, 36.5" vert, 9'9" broad jump. That is ridiculous. Guard candidate? Any idea where he is projected?

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tylan-grable/32004752-4102-7444-a454-6645dfedea6f

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/olumuyiwa-fashanu/32004641-5321-5841-928a-eb3cf26b2462

Now that I know how small his hands are, that's all I can look at. They are soooooooooo teeeeeny. Also, I wouldn't mind plugging him in at LT. 

Thinks the same thing we do. That we are moving back up into the 1st for a tackle. 

Also, there has been a lot of talk of us moving into the 20's with a 2nd and a 3rd. I'm not a fan. I think the tackles in the 20's are going to be swing and miss guys like Guyton, who both needs development and carries bust risk. I'd rather have top talents at other positions. If we want an OT that can start and protect a rookie in Rd 1, I think the sweet spot is around 15, and our 2 seconds could get us there. We need to get ahead of Cincinnati and  Pittsburg. It would be even better to get ahead of NO at 14. 

Also, I keep seeing Brock Bowers dropping in mocks...

The rest of free agency was too intentional. I have to believe that there is a solid plan at tackle and that we will add one before the draft. At least someone good enough to be a place holder. 

18 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

That’s a lot of money for half a season or so

He missed 3 games last year. I think we should have paid him. He’s going to be better than whatever rookie we draft in year one and the 1st year of QB development is critical.

I’m not posting this to harp on any one player, but just as an example of how much all of these picks could overhaul our roster if things break the right way. 

I wonder if teams are just waiting for financial expectations to come down for Tyron Smith, or if his medicals are worse than we thought and there will be a longer delay before he signs, or maybe even does not. 
 

I think at this point, we really should sign T Smith. Even if he misses 5 games, that gives us a much better chance to protect and develop our rookie QB while we develop an OT.

One thing I wouldn’t expect based on the number of 2nd and 3rd round pics, is a lot of movement down in the draft to accumulate pics in round 4-7. The general consensus seems to be that there is a drop off in this draft after around pick 100. 

If we trade up for an OT, I’d be happy to see us move into the tense and get Fuaga, if he’s available. I think he’s a 10 year plug and play RT. We may not be able to fix everything in one draft. 
Sign Tyron Smith and draft Fuaga and we could draft our long term LT in the first next year. 
 

Where is Xavier Legette’s natural spot? Is he an X?

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Wonder if because of the hands among reasons, Fashanu drops to the late teens-early 20s?

 

At least judging by mocks, Alt has stayed solid in the top 10 and Fashanu has fallen.  Bringing it up because I wonder if he's a trade up possibility?  He's from the area, high character guy, good tools, a bit of a work in progress in the run game.

 

 

 

 

I agree that it looks, right now, that a trade up for a tackle could be a smart move. Fashanu would be a good get for LT. I would really, really like Fuaga. 

What are your thoughts on Mims? He seems more likely to fall into reach than the other two. I know he doesn't have a lot of starts, and I've seen people talk about his injury history, but the only thing I could find in his injury history is a high ankle sprain that required a tight rope surgery. 

I wonder if the Jets trading for Moses makes them less likely to grab a tackle at the 10th pick. 

5 minutes ago, DogofWar1 said:

 

I feel like there should be a rule that once a QB wins 2 SBs they cannot ever restructure a contract to help the cap.

 

Let someone else win you jerk.

My assumption would be a long term deal for Snead 

There has to be a plan at OT, right? We can’t be planning to go into the draft needing a RT to replace Wylie and a LT to replace Leno, while also drafting a rookie WB we are planning to start. 

Traded 36, 67, 99, and a 3rd next year for Taliese.