turtle2328

...hard to believe they are giving waitlist people first dibs on lower level seating...not looking to upgrade myself (row 16 in 401), but I would be pissed if I were. BTW, I already did the season ticket holder survey. If I had not, I would have mentioned this for sure.

I'm kinda pissed for the long time guys with lesser seats too.

Co-worker pulled the trigger. Dude got Section 104.  104. You kidding me?

A co-worker tells me they've recently offered him, off the wait list, lower bowl end zone tickets.

old Upgrade thread locked?

http://es.redskins.com/topic/365704-new-seat-upgrade-process/page-21

I thought we'd have seen it by now. Last year the option for addition tickets came in April. The Seat Upgrade announcement came mid May. My actual upgrade day was 5/29 last year. I haven't heard word of anything since I started paying the invoice.

This will be my first year as a season ticket holder. I currently have 2 tickets in section 426 row 7. I'm considering changing to club level seats in the end zone or corner. Anyone have a preference between these two options? Keeping in mind that I will be going to most games with my 8 year old son...

The club level is really nice. On bad weather games you can go inside to warm up at half.

Having said that, I'd prefer the 426 because you're much closer to midfield.

Any word on seat upgrade timeline?  I haven't heard anything yet.    (apologies if I missed this earlier in the thread)  

+1 The chance to buy more should come first.

section 205

we'll see... it's my first year with a kid... things might get easier...

I'm in 222 row 9. I'd prefer one row further back or a few rows forward, but I really like being this close to the 50. I'd sign up to get on the home side to be closer to my exit and have the sun at our backs.

Kids... get easier. Mine are on the cusp of enjoying the games. It would be so much fun to take them to a sea of burgundy and gold.

 

 

The burden of preseason and the high cost of regular season tickets, and how hard it is to resell them at times, is why i'm about ready to give it up. The next 3 or 4 win season will likely be my last. It's impossible to sell tickets after one of those seasons, even if you're just trying to get someone to go with you, and after 10+ years of it I think I've had enough...

Or you let yours go and you start going with me. (or vice versa - what's your section?) ;-)

>> I am glad to see this as I often have friends come with me, but they have to pay me for their own ticket. Also, if there is a game you are going to miss, you can sell at face value w/o looking like you are gauging people when in reality, you are just trying to recoup your preseason losses.

If these % are across the board, then this is very close to what I projected on page 83.

Do you think the price bump will make friends or whomever (hopefully Redskins fans) you were selling seats to less likely to join you?

Same here, but it may be different for STH's with desirable seats. ie anything in the 200's, under cover, on the Skins side

How? If you didn't care about the number on the ticket before, why would it matter if that number changes?

You'd be more inclined to give it to charity now. The tax write off would be bigger.

Not that it matters, but do you know his section? (or tshile - what's your section?)

Out of curiosity, how is having the regular season price of the tickets going to help? If people aren't willing to pay face for $119.00 tickets, why would they pay $136.00?

Not being a dick, it's a serious question.

I'm honestly curious because we have similiar seats, (we're in 236) I've only ever sold one regular season game, (due to circumstances beyond my control), otherwise, I've never sold a regular season game.

You, and I, have great seats, so I'm guessing, (without perusing a bunch of threads), that you get face, for regular season games?

Thanks!

I don't see how it'd be different (if you're selling to the highest bidder in all cases)

If you're selling them to someone you know "At face" or another STH where the unspoken rule is face, it's like a free bump in price. But that might make it harder to get a buyer from those channels right?

turtle2328 has been on this quest since at least the Fan Forum to convince Redskins STHs and I think it makes no sense.   Yes, we'd all love to have the stadium 100% full of Redskins fans but that is entirely impractical for many reasons.  

 

""If you don't want to go, why are you buying season tickets in the first place?""   

I do want to go.   And I do go.    But every now and then, I can't go to a game.   First of all, I have a j.o.b job and work long hours and sometimes I can't make the prime time games.    Two years ago I got the flu and missed a game.   I shouldn't have tickets unless I can be 100% certain that I can make every game, every year??    Turtle, do you have season tickets?   If so, since when?   How many games have you missed?     I don't have kids, but people do.   Sometimes kids get sick.   Sometimes the babysitter bails the night before.   Whatever.   There are dozens of reasons STHs may have to get rid of their tickets for a game, not just because they "don't want to go."   

 

There are too many opposing fans because the stadium is too big, the stadium sucks, and the team has sucked for a while.  Yet, Dan Snyder makes a profit from the stadium being too big.   He makes more money than he would if the stadium were smaller.     You're asking me and tshile and other fans to take a financial loss to remedy a problem caused by Dan Snyder and the Redskins trying to make money?   Also, the team sells tickets on stubhub and other exchanges.   Do you get that?  There's no waiting list.  There are extra tickets every game.   The team sells tickets on the secondary market to anybody willing to pay.    But I'm supposed to eat my tickets?   To take 50 cents on the dollar to make sure a Redskins fan is in my seat?   The Redskins don't even do that!!!!!!

 

The thing is, you want people to sell tickets for half price or eat them rather than risk them falling into opposing hands, but you still have not proposed a way to make sure, 100% sure, that the person on the other end of a transaction is a Redskins fan, versus a Giants or Philly fan who happens to live in the area.   What's to keep that fan from joining some Redskins marketing list or whatever list you've proposed, so they can get discount tickets to the Redskins game when their team is in town every year.  If I post on stubhub, the person buying might be a Philly fan.   But they could also be a Redskins fan.   There's no way to know.   You're saying I should eat my tickets unless I know with 100% certainty that a Redskins buyer is on the other end?   What if it's 75%?    

Again, I would feel a lot better about your cause if the Redskins didn't charge us full price for preseason tickets.   Full price.   Full price for a game on a Wednesday in August at 7 PM to watch players who will very likely not be on the roster.   Full price.  Full price.  $50 parking.  

 

So no, thanks very much for your offer, but I will not be taking your suggestion of eating my tickets or donating them to charity if for some reason I can't make the game, which rarely happens.  Last game I missed was early 2014.   I'll first offer them to my Redskins friends, and I'll put them on classifieds here.   If that doesn't work, I'll be putting them on the secondary market.  I'm a diehard fan and a principled guy, but your principle makes no sense.          

Quote and response here:

http://es.redskins.com/topic/400704-keep-your-tickets/

Turtle, I agree with you that STHs should make as many games as possible, but I would think most of the people who are STHs that post on ES are relative diehards who probably do just that.  And if they can't go, I'm sure a fair number try to utilize the classified section on the board, where you have a pretty decent chance (though not foolproof) of the buyer being a Skins fan. I'd be curious to hear how successful people generally have been of selling tickets they can't use via the classified forum.

 

A) However, when you see opposing fans, I do think there are likely more seats in FedEx than you think that are bought by larger entities (non-individual). Those entities either give or sell tickets to employees, and they don't care who the person is a fan of.

 

B)Also, for this season, three of the eight regular season home games are night games. Granted, STHs should know from history that we have tended to have a good amount of home night games. In the instances where an STH can't make those games, I think night games are fairly difficult to find someone to buy them (in comparison to Sunday afternoon games).  Thus, someone trying to sell them is more likely to not be as choosy when selling.

A) I don't doubt it. There are large patches in my prime location which have new people in them every week. The team should do something about it.

Night games suck, but they suck for opposing fans too.

Wait, so I'm supposed to give them away for free or eat them why?

 

Because you think I'm beholden to some standard of not selling them to someone who's not a redskins fan?

 

Yeah that's a riot. My tickets are going to the people willing to pay for them. The fact that few of those people are redskins fans is not my fault.

 

Can't wait for all the 'redskins fans' that refuse to buy tickets for face value ****ing about all the steelers fans in the stadium opening night.

 

eat them, give them away, or sell at a discount. hah. i'm sure that sounds great when it's not your money.

I'd say we should move it here...http://es.redskins.com/topic/400704-keep-your-tickets/

but primer: Yes. It's a better option to give them away for free or eat them than let opposing fans in the stadium. If you let other fans in you're letting down the team and all the Redskins fans that have season tickets because you know... they want to go to the games.

If you don't want to go, why are you buying season tickets in the first place?

Again... should probably respond here:

http://es.redskins.com/topic/400704-keep-your-tickets/

I gave mine up last year.

I hope you find your way into some games this year - maybe even at a discount!

That works both ways. Have to have skins fans willing to buy them. There are a lot of skins fans that only want tix if they are discounted.

False. You could sell them at a discount, give them away, or eat them. If you're going to sell them, sell them to a 'Skins fan.

If you don't want to go, why are you buying them in the first place?

i have a silly question...

 

does anyone know where/when/how to find out the pricing of each game? I normally start selling my tickets now, or in may, and i have no idea what to tell people the games cost...

Only sell them to 'Skins fans. ktnx.

This is somewhat off-topic, but recently the DC Sports Bog had an entry indicating the Caps are raising ticket prices for the eighth time in nine seasons. I saw a friend of mine who has season tickets down low and told me that his prices are going up from $130 per game to $165 per game.  Over a 41 game season, that's almost a $3000 increase for two seats.

 

Granted, I'm not sure how much other NHL teams have raised their prices. And folks will say "oh, the Caps always make the playoffs"......but 16 teams make the playoffs in hockey. And yes, they are having perhaps their best season yet, which hopefully will result in at least a Finals appearance, if not winning the Cup.  And their owner certainly seems to have a sunnier disposition than Dan Snyder.  However, it just seems from a "gouging the fans" standpoint, that Ted Leonsis gets somewhat of a free pass in this town.

That's because aside from your friend, no one wants Caps tickets :-p

...the people who are attending every game - IE: the people the team should be trying to give some benefits to; the people the team has a hard time keeping active and around.

+1

People like me should be the people you want to keep as season ticket holders.

I'm a fan, too, and I won't pay it.  It's your call. 

 

1. I never saw the draw of having season tickets, especially with the costs.  2. I'm very happy with the TV experience. 

1. It's hard sometimes. For the money I could have a pretty sweet party every game. The line to the bathroom would be shorter and the food would be better. I'd never get cold. I'd never get wet. I could score at half time. And when we suck, that's much more enjoyable. No stupid fans heckling you on the way home!

2. It's just not the same. Being one of 80,000 people cranked up full blast so the other team can't hear their QB in the huddle is something you simply can't replicate at home. You experience neither the euphoria of the crowd nor have any impact on the game on your couch. So when we're good, it's addictive. 

You have to look at it like any hobby financially. That is to say, it's about $3k to start getting into it... Just like skiing, or kayaking, or <insert hobby here>. If you can afford it, it's not so hard footing the bill. If you can't, at least there's TV.