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Just now, RVAskins said:

I can't take the fricking sound. Stop showing that Washington W graphic. The screeching is scaring my dogs!

Dude I thought it was my tv. I was just about to ask yall. The noise finally went off.

I think Jim Caldwell will be a great choice for oc. He's not coaching now and I think he will sign here and be a great one year rental if Rivera gets fired next year. 

Roll the dice with Howell as a starter. Take Heinicke clearly as a backup and mentor  Howell. We can save a lot of money going this route and fix the oline and resign Payne. People might not like this but keep Turner for next season. I think it will hurt Howell if he would have to learn three offensive systems in his first three years if being here.

What do you think Payne will be asking for?

4 minutes ago, CobraCommander said:

So what other options are out there for OC. 

 

So far we have:

 

-Turner, gross.

-Turner with a passing consultant, return of the bingo caller, double gross.

-Zampese, Turner 2.0

-Kingsburry, Air Raid guy like Howell had success with in NC.

-Joe Brady, Young and hungry just the way I like them.

 

 

 

I believe Scott Turner will be here next year. I don't think Ron will let him go. I don't see anyone wanting to come here as an oc knowing they will be looking for another job after next season with the new owner in place.

9 hours ago, tshile said:

Wait are people… bring jay gruden back? What?

 

where am I

 

what the **** is up with this timeline I’m in and how do I get out of it 

 

That last part of the video with Rivera didn't know we could be eliminated got me dying laughing. 

9 minutes ago, Rex Tomb said:

What new HC is going to want to keep the coordinators from a previous regime?

What I was saying is keep the staff for next year. It might have came out wrong but what I was trying to say if Rivera gets fired now then Howell has to learn another system. If Rivera fires Scott then Howell as to learn a new system.  If Rivera gets fired after next year then Howell has to learn another system. 

Rivera is going to be our coach next year. Dan isn't firing him with what's all going on. Rivera has another year to show the new owner he's the guy. With Howell you have to start him next year. Fix the o-line, resign Payne. Heinicke has mobility and won us games with his knowledge of Scott Turner's system  even though with his lack of arm talent. Howell has a great deep ball and arm strength and mobility. He just needs another offseason with this system and first team reps. I believe Howell is a perfect fit for Scott Turner's offense. If Ron fires Scott then you get a new OC that Howell would have to learn and if Rivera gets fired after next year with the new owner then Howell will have to learn another offensive system. That's setup for failure. Keep the staff and let Howell succeed which I believe he will.

I'm loving the defense swarming to the ball. Looking forward to next near with Howell. I'm hoping Ron goes with him next year

Where's the pass interference?

19 minutes ago, The Rook said:

Things I like on team blogs: Insightful opinions, evaluations, explanations, descriptions 

 

Not so much:

"Hot Takes" (especially using definitive adjectives such as "must, definitely, absolutely. etc.).

 

Repeated statements on page after page AND topic after topic from same the poster,  Trust me, we have heard you, again and again and again - you HATE/LOVE it/him/them. 

 

Someone making a post for which you have a different opinion is NOT calling you out.  However, if they have quoted you, I realize that pretty much an invitation to debate/discussion.  Other people jumping in and it becomes "attempts to win the discussion" leading to the belittling of other members opinions, OR worse, belittling of the other members themselves.

 

 

Okay, I've had my burst from my edible.  I apologize, but I already know who hates/like Taylor and I just want to let you all know that a lot of us do. 

 

Y'all are smart, bring something new to the table, because this team (and this blog) needs it.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Rook

I apologize if I made you mad and don't agree of how I post but I post like we're talking face to face and I will post better since this is a message board. I can admit that. I explain myself of what I'm trying to say too much but it's not like what you think.  I know their is people on here that don't like me I'm assuming, but im not that guy trust me. I'll post better and that's it. I don't mean any harm so my bad man. I understand what you were saying but I'm not like that.

57 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

I have no idea where Carr will go this offseason, but at least I'm happy that I'm not foolish enough to make definitive statements like I do. 

1 hour ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

I have no idea where Carr will go this offseason, but at least I'm happy that I'm not foolish enough to make definitive statements like I do. 

My bad man, I apologize if you took it that way. You didn't want Carr in the first place and I responded by saying what I said but some times I post like that cause we aren't talking face to face and I was just saying what I think would happen. I wasn't calling you out or anything so my bad man.

1 hour ago, Renegade7 said:

We need the cap space for oline, if Howell can be a respectable backup we won't be able to afford bringing Taylor back.

 

Said this before and will say it again, every dime we get back from cutting Wentz will go to his replacement, so treat that cap space as already spent.

I don't see any legit free agent QB or trade coming here with the situation with the owner about to sell. We offered for Stafford a couple years ago but got outbid but apparently he didn't want to come here. I believe we offered a lot for Wilson but he had a no trade clause and didn't want to come here in which I'm so glad he didn't accept that at the time with the draft capital we had to offer and the way he performed this year. Maybe but it's a long shot to get Brady here. Fix the oline and get him for year and let Howell sit and learn again. 

1 hour ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

Heinicke should depend on what other moves are made. If they bring in  Carr (ugh) or similar or draft a QB in the first round, having TH back makes plenty of sense as a back-up.

 

If stye do what I would prefer, which is try to acquire capital for the 2024 draft and not force a quick fix, then I would have two "roll the dice" types of options. Howell being one and maybe a Stidham or Mike White type and see how it plays out, with a cheap mentor kind of 3rd QB (a Nate Sudfeld level guy). Though a 3rd roll on like a 6th round rookie wouldn't be terrible either. 

Carr isn't coming here. He has a no trade clause which means if he gets traded he can basically pick what team he wants to go to. Their was a report the other day saying he wants to go to a team with a Owner and head coach that has a strong relationship. I'm not saying Rivera and Snyder doesn't get along, but Snyder is gone and more likely Rivera too unless he makes the playoffs with the new owner. 

Rivera said that Howell wouldn't be judged fully on one game. He's not going to have Robinson or Gibson and he's working with a crap offensive line. We need Howell to show that he can be a starter for this team. I'm hoping he can ball out Sunday and I think he will. There will be some mistakes I'm sure. I don't see this team trading for a QB or drafting one. Why draft a QB when you don't know about Howell even after one game? They tried to trade for Quarterbacks but nobody wanted to come here. Rivera has one year left to show the new owner he's got it and Howell might be his only option. I think we should resign Heinicke as a backup with no threat of competing for a starting job. Heinicke is not a full starter but if Howell gets hurt and misses a game or two Heinicke will come in and win you games thats what you want for a backup to do. I think he will go and resign somewhere elsewhere imo. Take your chance with Howell and resign Payne and address the offensive line. If Howell doesn't work out we will get a top pick with a new owner and head coach and they can pick their QB. We save 28M with Wentz gone after this season. No way in hell Rivera is drafting a QB in the 1st round with basically one year left to prove himself. I will add too that the people wanting Carr he's not coming here. I believe he has a no trade clause in his contract and he won't come here. Someone posted the other day showing a screenshot of Carr wanting to go to a team with a owner and head coach having a great relationship. That's not here. We can't get Rodgers cause to my understanding the cap hit for the Packers trading him will take them back years to do anything. Slight chance with Brady. Idk if he will be a free agent or for trade. Selling the team and more likely a new coach after next year puts us into a tough position this off season of finding a QB. Revamp this oline with the cap money we will have and again sign Payne and hope Howell works out.

55 minutes ago, SoCalSkins said:

Not happening:

 

 

I just posted about sceniores but didn't see your post. At the end of the day with no 8th seed now and Mike Florio is nothing but a clickbait artist, I'm still going to watch to see how Howell does and hopefully he plays well and gives us some confidence going into the offseason.

1 hour ago, kleese said:

Simple.. we win, Seahawks lose, we’d be in. This assumes no tie in Packers-Lions game. 
 

This would seem like asinine solution though. It makes a very SMALL amount of sense in AFC as a way to level playing field for the fortunate #1 seed (probably Chiefs). But it makes zero sense to do so in NFC and punish the (probably) Eagles for no reason. You can have 8 in AFC and 7 in NFC without screwing anything up. 
 

Am I “rooting” for it? Ha, sure, why not. But I can’t imagine it has any legs and I will fall out of my chair if that’s what they landed on. 
 

Go Rams!! 

If we win and Seahawks lose we will be in automatically in. If the Packers and Lions tie we would have the same record as both of the Lions and Packers. Lions will get the 7th seed cause they beat us and we will get the 8th seed over the Packers since we beat them. If they didn't tie we would have the edge over the team that loses cause we have the same amount of wins but one less loss then them. Though I don't think the NFL will do the 8th seed now. It's Thursday night and I believe their is games on Saturday? I don't see them announcing this when we're at the end of the week now. Who knows it could happen but I believe someone posted earlier of a screenshot that Vincent the NFLPA head man had no knowledge of the NFL going to an 8th seed apparently when asked but that was from a guy that apparently watched the press conference. 

15 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Press conference is scheduled for 4 PM, so we’ll likely find out at that time. 

If their doing this I'm assuming they will add an 8th seed. 

25 minutes ago, Franklin60 said:

That doesn’t make sense. You’d have three winners of those games, plus the two teams with a bye. That’s an odd number. Doesn’t work.

I misread the article.  I think it will have no byes for any team. 

If this goes down and for the people that wanted to know. We need to beat Dallas and Seahawks has to lose. If the packers and lions tie we would have the same record as both of them. Lions would get 7th seed cause they beat us we would get 8th seed over the packers since we beat them. If the Seahawks tie idk what's happens. I think it's goes to NFC record I think. Anyways I know me typing on this topic is a waste of time but we will see.

11 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Ugh, come on.  I mean, I get it, I realize that anything can happen in the playoffs and that any given Sunday, a team can beat another team.  But after being eliminated, I don't want some backasswards way into the playoffs just to say we got in the playoffs.  If we did, it would be based on a technicality and that's just dumb.  

 

That said, the situation the league finds itself in is due to some very terrible and unprecedented circumstances so if they have to open up the playoffs to add an additional team just this once, I get it.  I really do.  And if it somehow happens to be us on the NFC side just to balance everything out, that's fine, too.  But I can't be happy about possibly having another shot at the playoffs due to what Hamlin suffered the other night.  If everything were right in the world, Hamlin doesn't suffer that tragedy and we're not considered for an 8th seed.

 

 

Overall dude, I like you and I know we've had some good back and forth on here over the years.  But I gotta say, you're a strange dude.  One minute, super sensitive, talking about vegetarianism, saving dogs, being kind towards everyone and then the next minute you post something like this.

 

This was a tragedy that, literally, no one in the NFL had seen before.  No one had seen a player on the field having to receive CPR in order to save his life.  I'm not sure how you'd expect any of the players on the field to continue playing after having witnessed that.  

 

 

I agree after reading your post and just thinking. I don't see the joy us in the playoffs because someone almost died or technically did die on the field. If somehow the NFL did this I will still root for the team.

2 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

He’s asking about if we win on Sunday against Dallas (regardless of your prediction on the outcome), then what would happen (if the nfl goes with the 8 seed playoff option). 
 

thats what he was asking 

I read an article that if the NFL does go this route the top two seed would get a bye. 8vs3, 7vs4, 6vs5.

Just now, Cooleyfan1993 said:

I don’t think so. But I’m guessing this is all very VERY moot, as I don’t think the NFL even ends up going that route. Plus, we were already eliminated even if the NFL somehow does make that decision. 

I just remembered we beat the packers earlier if they lost and Seahawks lost wouldn't we have the tie breaker over them or that might not matter since we have a tie but same amount of wins but less losses then the packers. It's a long shot but the NFL might do it. More ratings and more money.

So if we beat Dallas and Packers beat the lions and the Seahawks lose we can get the 8th seed? If they choose to do an 8th seed.

3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

And then derailed the playoff quest, too.

 

 

Could be so.

 

 

Dallas owned him last year too when they had the #6 rated offensive line in the league a according to PFF.  If I recall he had 5 fumbles in the last 3 games?  Why risk bumping that up to 7 fumbles or whatever in 4 which would be Daniel Jones (pre 2022 season) level bad. 

I understand what your saying, but their is no point for Heinicke to play this game this week against Dallas in his mind. Wentz played against the the Eagles and took 9 sacks I believe.  Heinicke wins against an undefeated Eagles team and played well but fumbled in that game too. Which imo had no time. The oline needs to be addressed first and foremost.  With Howell playing if he lights it up I'm super pumped going in the off season, but that doesn't mean he's the future but in my mind you have to give him a chance next year. If he flashes Sunday and takes sacks or fumbles depending on the situation cause he has no time I know the problem. 

14 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

Re: Heinicke not wanting to damage his rep by going up against Dallas lol: 

 

Unless Heinicke looks absolutely fantastic, no front office in the NFL is suddenly gonna say "Well, damn, I thought that Taylor guy was good. But I guess not." lol...He's had about 25 starts and a ton of film that will EASILY trump whatever happens against the Cowboys outside of just lighting up their starters. Remember, it was studing film on TH that apparently showed the entire league how to stop him and that he was a fraud lol...So the only thing he would lose is an extra $81K if they were to win.

 

For the record, I'm not buying the Heinicke convinced Rivera to start Howell narrative, but then again I just stumbled upon it on this last page lol...so what do I know.

 

 

I think it's more that Heinicke is asking himself why should I play a game that doesn't matter when my head coach benched me and put Wentz in to have a spark when I helped the team to get into playoff contention and caused the spark earlier in the season. With the Browns game our total offense was the worst since the Bears game and in that game Wentz was the starting QB. He's telling himself why risk a series injury when I will be a free agent in the off season and can make more money if team decides to sign me as a backup or bridge QB. Cause if Heinicke plays Sunday for instance and gets seriously hurt that will draw teams away from looking at him as a backup or bridge QB. I believe he will be a backup for some team in the NFL. He has his flaws but he does what backups are supposed to do and win. When other teams studying film to see if they should sign him they will say "his offensive line is garbage".