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I'd gladly take Mariota, the cap space and the draft capital over Wentz and it's not even close. This team isn't good enough to be giving away draft picks and valuable cap space for Carson Wentz.

This team needs to take BPA, regardless of position. All positions should be a possibility.

I just disagree w/ that. You are trying to discredit Ballard simply because you think he is trying to save his job, yet there is no evidence of that. What you're saying is Ballard is a puppet GM. Just remember another team came to the same conclusion that Ballard/Irsay did. The Eagles took a massive cap hit to move on from Wentz.

I never said I barely follow the team. You said that and that is not correct. I said "my interest isn't what it once was" which is why I didn't come on here that much. Battered Fan was trying to make it out like I was ducking him in a previous post which is hilarious. I am still a fan but I do not live and die with them anymore like I use to. I haven't been to a game in 5 years. I don't buy gear anymore. Last year if there was a better game on I'd flip over. That would never have happened in the past. I have been a fan of this team since I was a kid in the 70's. I went to my first game in 1977. It was in my blood for a real long time but that is now gone. I never got heated either, other did but I didn't.

I'm not even going to debate w/ you until you get off your silly ass Rooster comments. Stop acting like a child.

Riggo44- when did I tout Irsay's football acumen? lol. All I am saying is he knows more on Wentz than anyone here does. Including myself. Would you not agree w/ that? Again, he saw Wentz for a full season, a full off season, training camp, I'd say that gives him a bit more info on the guy than we have. Everyone here is dismissing his opinion on Wentz just cause he's got personal issues. I find that unfair. I'm not married to it. I have brought up several other things that support my opinions on Wentz.

Nope. Couldn't be more wrong. I can't listen to that guy for 5 minutes.

True but Ron is a coach, not a GM. Right now I'd trust Ballard's opinion on him over what Ron thinks simply because the Colts have had a full season w/ Wentz. Ron hasn't. This time next year Ron may come to the same conclusion that Ballard, Irsay, and the Eagles organization came to. I love being on an island. I'm not here to make internet buddies.

When the GM of the team says you have a difficult time making the routine plays I'd hardly call that being wishy washy. I'd call that the GM not thinking too highly of his starter.

Battered Fan- you are just totally missing my point or you are just trying to twist things to fit your narrative. It's annoying. Everytime I have presented you w/ something you simply try to pass it off... like the reason Wentz can't get 200 yards in half his games is because he plays w/ Taylor? That to me is just crazy. That is a poor excuse. In one game he threw for 57 yards. That is almost impossible to do in an NFL pass happy league. He had 148 against the Raiders. How do you do that against that crappy defense? Heinicke can do better than that. I was watching the talking head show w/ Shannon Sharpe and Skip Bayless. Shannon mentioned that Wentz is a 50% passer w/out screen plays being called. Only one other QB was worse. Again these are more facts that I'm bringing to you but your comeback will be.. " yeah but his wr's sucked, his o-line can't block, he had a headache during those games" Your comebacks have no merit to them at all.

Yep, the GM of an NFL team who has been a scout and or a coach for almost 30 years is just a dude w/ an opinion. Question, if he is just a dude w/ an opinion then what are you? lol.

Battered Fan... Ballard said Wentz " misses the layups" FACT Two teams gave up on him in two years.. FACT Doug Peterson benched him for Hurts FACT Wentz was confronted by Darren Sproles for acting like a spoiled baby FACT In 8 starts last year Wentz didn't reach 200 yards FACT Ballard and Irsay saw Wentz up close more than you FACT

Seems to me I'm spitting out facts and you guys don't like it.

True those guys didn't like it but how do you respond to it?? Jimmy Gurrappalo didn't like it either but in the end he played some pretty good football and may end up being the 49ers starter this year. Again, how do you respond to a younger player being highly drafted at your position. None of those guys folded. Wentz did.

I'm not saying Irsay isn't a asshole. But just cause he is an asshole or a drunk means he doesn't know his football team?? Basically some of you are discrediting his football IQ cause he has personal issues. But forget Irsay,I'll go back to Ballard- he also didn't give a ringing endorsement. They traded him w/out a viable option and the Eagles traded him having Hurts. These are facts and they don't make Wentz look good. Two huge red flags. Now he's supposed to come here and be the franchise savior? It's not going to happen. Well Green Bay hired someone younger and cheaper and Rodgers kept that younger and cheaper option on the bench. In the NFL talent wins out. Especially at the QB position.

First of all I was not in hiding. My interest in the team isn't what it once was so I don't come on here every single day. Stop trying to bully me. It ain't gonna work. Also how is what the owner of the team says is a nothing burger? He owns the team!!! Do you know him personally?? So what if he is a drunk. He still knows more about HIS team than you do. He knows more about the guy than you do!!! Do you know how ridiculous you sound? He talked w/ the vets of the team who didn't give Wentz a ringing endorsement. What more do you want? The players may say nice things in public to be PC but behind closed doors is a totally different story. Also you are totally ignoring the other sources I gave. The GM of the team basically said he can't hit the easy routine plays. He saw the guy every single day for OTA's, training camp, preseason and regular season. So Ballard is wrong and you are right? You don't make any sense. Tell me how you know more than Ballard does? What about the Eagles? His former head coach who is a former NFL QB benched him for a QB who can't throw the ball on an NFL level. You can keep sticking up for the guy all you want but facts are facts. I have serious doubts if he will make it here and everything I have said has been backed up w/ facts. What you say is basically I'm the smartest guy in the room and I know more than everyone else..

" In having conversations w/ trusted veterans on the team, so to speak, when you speak to them in confidence, often they share really, what's happening. What I found out was very concerning." - Jim irsay So this sounds like he talked w/ multiple players who really don't want him either. This wasn't one player, this was multiple players, " trusted veterans" as he put it. Now I do take back the word "hate" if I in fact said that. I doubt that players hate him, but it's pretty obvious they don't think much of him when it comes to playing QB. They don't think much of him when it comes to being a leader. The guy was complaining about how no one appreciates him to other injured players during the SB run and then got checked by Darron Sproles. All this is out there it's all true. Wentz is mentally weak in my opinion. He should welcome competition. The best guys aren't bothered by it. Instead he is bothered by it, it was pretty obvious he couldn't deal with it when the Eagles drafted Hurts. He had his worst year when they drafted Hurts. That should tell you all you need to know right there. So you have two teams who moved on from him. Do YOU know more than they do?? Do YOU know more about Wentz than Irsay does? Ballard? Reich? Doug Peterson? Deuce Staley? Howie Roseman? No you don't. If all those guys said we'll pass then please explain how he is going to come here to this rag tag franchise and make it work w/ Scott Turner? Ballard was quoted in his end of the year meeting w/ Wentz and said, " you can't hit the lay ups." Meaning he simply misses too many easy throws that any NFL back-up can make. The trade wasn't a good one and I still believe that. I don't think much of him as a leader and he is a bottom tier starter. I'd rather go w/ Heinicke and a rookie 1st or 2nd rounder and keep the draft picks. He had several bad games w/ the Colts. When the players do not believe in the QB then you don't have a QB.

That was then, this is now. Big difference between 27 and 35. Not trying to knock Wentz, it was the best Ron could do but I just don't see it working out here. This isn't the place to come to re-start your career. I don't think Wentz is a bad guy or anything, I just don't that much of him as a QB at this point.

no chance Wentz throws 35 td's.

I just can't get past the fact that two teams turned their back on the guy. Yet he supposed to come here and Scott Turner and Zamese are going to get this guy right? I just don't understand why anyone can defend that.

BatteredFan- you and others are just trying to make a bunch of excuses for him. The red flags are there and they aren't going anywhere.

The Colts are a garbage team? Ok.. lol.

You sound like a Wentz apologist. Way too many red flags w/ him and where there is smoke we all know there is fire. The Indy situation just verifies the Philly situation. The GM also did not want the guy and Frank Reich was pretty lukewarm on his comments about Wentz. But going back to Philly they drafted Hurts in the 2nd round a couple years ago. What does that say? That says that the Eagles did not believe in him at all. Eventually he was benched for terrible play and then traded. The Eagles picked Hurts over Wentz. If that isn't a red flag then idk what is. For every teammate that likes him there are two that don't. He isn't a good QB anymore. Yes he is an upgrade over Taylor but that really isn't saying a lot. A year from now we will be where the Colts are now.

Yep, and between the two of them we will have on average 2 fumbles per game!

Good one!