DisgruntledLionFan#54,927

And you think they all talk behind the scenes but insidets waited an entire year, through even more interviews with even more people to let this gossip about Ben Johnson out? McDaniels gutted an entire franchise and told another one to go get ____ after agreeing to terms, but it's the mid-flight thing owners won't be able to get over.

Why would it be a red flag for a guy like Jerry? Why would Jerry care you passed on working with one of the worst owners in the game or that you let another team that's not his know your not interested mid-flight? I'd imagine all Jerry cares about is the resume, demeanor and how Johnson can make him some more money by winning football games. And just so I know, is passing on the trainwreck that was Carolina this past year a positive or a negative for Johnson?

Pulling yourself out of consideration for jobs you don't want or that don't align with your goals is not some strange pattern. Would you rather he took the job he didn't want and/or wasn't committed to doing? Would that make him a more attractive HC candidate to other owners after his firing?

It's only a bad look if they'd already agreed to terms and even then, it really means nothing to anyone outside of Washington.

Totally true. Look how many people laughed at the Vrabel and Campbell hires at the time while applauding guys like Meyer and Patricia.

I think Johnson staying says a lot about what Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes have built in Detroit. But reading this thread has been quite entertaining.

Trailing by 14 late, going for 2 is the right call.

It kind of matters how and when that happens, no? You're just making this up as you go.

Pretty accurate and I'd add the Lions are sporting the worst LBers in the league right now.

Almost immediately in the 2nd Q? The Eagles just ran it out by engineering a 4 play, 10 yard drive and a 3 play, 2 yard drive after Detroit responded to make it a 38-28 game? Trust me, I have much more experience watching blowouts. That game was not a blowout. Who was going to win might not have been in jeopardy but these werent drives with dumpoffs to Swift and Williams eating up a bunch of clock.

Not as bad as you just did.

I watched the game and Philly never had the ball with that 17 point lead. Ten point game at the half, traded TDs in the 3rd Q/early 4th and it was a 10 point game with over 14 minutes left to play and a 3 point game with 4 minutes left to play. Odd hill to stand on.

Why would Goff be negative value for the Lions? At worst, he plays next year for $25 million, and then they trade him for a 4-6th rounder and eat $15.5 million more. That contract was only an albatross for the Rams.

Would not surprise me if the Lions still took someone like Trey Lance at 1.7. Goff is the obviously the bridge, and there's no dead cap charge after 2022.

While that would be the 4D chess move, I don't see GM Holmes doing it. He's the guy that liked Goff back in 2016.