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The Post clearly does not have a good relationship with Dan Snyder.  Am I the only one that doesnt ever care at this point, if the Post has an agenda against him?  It matches he agenda of an entire ****ing fanbase that has had mostly negative experiences with this guy since the day he bought the team.  Everyone is sick of Dan Snyder -- many of his employees, his ex-business partners, the media, the fanbase, everybody.  And yet he just keeps finding a way to linger around endlessly.  He's a ****ing herpes infection.

20 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

 

That part in bold is what I thought the other poster was referring to...that they want to hear more on this issue first before reaching a conclusion because there isn't anything concrete or undeniable concerning the video and Snyder...just one guy who claims Larry told him that the video was for Snyder. Two others who talked about the video said they never heard Snyder's name in connection to it. And Larry's credibility, both now and in terms of what he told others in the past, isn't in the best shape to hang anything on.

 

I did not get the idea that the other poster felt nothing in the article-if true-was serious enough to warrant forcing Snyder to give up the team.

Yeah, I get that,but I dont think anybody was really saying that okay, this Post story alone is enough to take Snyder out -- certainly not me.  But, I do believe that this is concerning enough, along with the history of allegations and impropriety that Dan Snyder himself alluded to,  that I want a real independent investigation done to treat this issue with the seriousness it deserves.   

To me this is a fairly large deal, because its the first allegation directly link Dan Snyder to the culture that he claims he unwittingly allowed to take root.  It belies the unwitting part of that statement.  If its proven Dan Snyder was an actively involved in putting that culture in place, thats huge, that may be game over for Dan Snyder. Of course, it is just an allegation, I dont think we need the usual "hall monitor", to tell us not to jump to conclusions.  Duh.  

4 hours ago, redskinss said:

you make some good points, but i wasn't trying to suggest he's innocent, nor was I intending to justify what has happened over the last 20 years or the culture that building has had.

I would just like to hear both sides of the story before I determine if snyder should be run out of town.

I believe he could be an asshole but not guilty of anything worthy of forcing him out ( no matter how much I'd like him to be).

 

Okay, the heart of the issue is this -- Did Dan Snyder request a personal videotape of his employees nude or exposed -- possibly without the consent/knowledge of those employees, and without compensation for those employees?  If you dont think THAT is a major issue, worthy of running him out of town, I dont know what the **** you think would qualify as major issue. 

If you dont believe there is enough proof of this, thats another matter, but its definitely a major issue worth of investigation.  

Think of a normal organization.  Lets imagine that, during a corporate retreat, there was a beach-side party thrown by the company.  Lets say that it is considered normal/an expectation that some of the activities during the retreat would be photographed, including the beach side party.  Now lets say some female employees were swimming in bikinis at the end of that party.  Would it be ok for the CEO of that organization to ask for a personal tape to be made of the female employees in their bikinis, or changing into their bikinis -- without the consent of those females, or an offer of compensation?  No ofcourse not, thats ****ing disgusting.  But, because these girls are cheerleaders, everyone assumes that they should be used to being sexually objectified, no big deal there at all, huh?

Even an offer of compensation would be extremely slimy, but to just do it without consent or expectation of compensation..thats bordering on predatory.    

34 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

Basically called her a liar.

I cant believe his defense is, she didnt report it, and she remained with the organization, so it couldnt have happened.  Umm, #metoo movement, are y'all paying attention??  This is a textbook case of everything the movement was protesting. They ought to be devouring him right now, 

12 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

This is a bad idea.  How can you tell the difference between a gun and something else from a distance at night? I don’t see most people standing up risking there own life while they debate of a guy is pointing a gun at them. This guy was shot in the back in the daytime though. 

 

The bad policing happened way before they “thought” he had a gun. As others have pointed out there were numerous chances to deescalate the situation and the cops failed to do that. 
 

 

Agreed 100%.  It think that this highlights how poorly trained police are.  What strikes me about this video, and so many other videos, is how quickly police officers make the decision to draw their guns.  It is almost reflexive for some officers, the second someone doesnt comply, the second there is any of sort of uncertainty, they're drawing guns faster than they did in them old Western flicks.  It is an indictment of the training system, a force that has no concept of proper threat escalation has no right to be anywhere near a deadly weapon.      

If police have access to deadly force, they MUST be thoroughly trained on how to avoid using it, or even threatening the use of deadly force, until it is the best option for dealing with the situation at hand.  Actually, it should be the ONLY option for dealing with a situation.  We have to stamp out this "draw-my-gun" reflex from the first day of training.  

I think 90% of the problem in this video, and what caused this tragedy, is the fact that the police officers all had their guns drawn.  That means NONE of them had access to a less deadly means that they could have used to force compliance or incapacitate Mr. Blake temporarily.  A taser would have worked fine, even a baton to the back of the knees would have been fine, hell even two free hands to able to grab and tackle Mr. Blake  --  would all have been good options.  But none of them were an option, because the officer had his gun in his hand.  You could see his dilemma for a second, when he tried desperately to grab Blake's t-shirt with his non-dominant hand (cause his dominant hand had the gun).  Of course, he couldnt generate enough power or get a decent grip on Mr. Blake, and you can almost see him wish he had both his hands free at that second. 

The gun suddenly became a hindrance to dealing with the situation, and once the situation progressed to where Mr. Blake had opened the door and was attempting to retrieve something from the vehicle, the gun became the solution to a poor situation that it had helped cause.  We really need to overhaul police training in this country.  That should never have happened, and its not even the individual officer that is to blame here -- and I think the public must be careful not to get tricked into focusing its ire on the police officer, when its ire belongs on the department that failed to train him properly.  If just half of the budget of police departments that was spent on weapons was spent on thorough training that emphasizes non-deadly force, everyone (including the police) would be far safer and far better off.   

1 hour ago, NoCalMike said:

bama had a huge task to undertake when he came into office, and of course the economic recovery can be debated, but what Obama had to deal with seemed like it had more of a clear cut solution, where as right now it's hard to look at previous methods of economic turnaround when the actual problem (covid19) is showing no signs of going anywhere due to the general selfishness going on.

 

 

I agree, we gotta take this one step at a time.  The first thing thats important, assuming the country isnt already D.O.A by the time Biden gets into office, is just to ensure we get moving back into the right direction, and that means dealing with COVID correctly -- no matter how long that takes.  We cannot move forward until we have dealt with COVID, and if that means we gotta shut everything back down until a proven vaccine is available, thats just what we have to do.  We already messed up royally the initial COVID response, we cannot afford to **** up the recovery-- we as a country will NOT SURVIVE, period.  If mess the recovery up, by jumping gun, by not waiting long enough for an EFFECTIVE vaccine, then America will be a 3rd world country by time COVID is truly through with us.  

It would behoove us, if we actually had smart leadership, to make sure that a vaccine is globally available as soon as possible.  We are too stupid as a nation to deal with COVID unless its through a vaccine.  I mean, apparently the need for EVERYONE to put on a mask is too complex an idea to build a consensus on, so we pretty much need to just have the cure injected in us ((forcefully if need be), because we're too dumb to be relied on to do anything else.   

What this means for Biden, is that he must immediately reverse the selfish attempt by Trump to ensure America would be first in line for a vaccine.  That just backfired immediately.   Now whats likely to happen, is that another country will develop the vaccine before us, and very pointedly make sure that we are amongst the last in line to get the vaccine.  Or even if we develop the vaccine first, it will take longer than it would have had we collaborated and encouraged collaboration with the global medical research community.  Lets get back to being the world leaders in medical research -- by infusing a laaarge amount of money, I dont care if its more than the rest of the world combined -- into an international consortium of scientists, tasked with sharing data and facilitating collaboration in COVID 19 vaccine research.  It should not matter who is first to make an effective vaccine, we just want an effective vaccine as soon as possible.  The way science works, especially vaccine research, the more access you have to data from other scientists (specially data about what failed to produce a viable vaccine), the faster you will be able to identify an appropriate epitope (target) for an effective vaccine that confers complete and long-term immunity. 

Its almost like this COVID thing is a test from above, to see if human beings are still capable of working together for the common good -- when the resources are available and the only thing in question is the will and wisdom to do it.  .

Then, we can take those lessons we learned from COVID, and apply them to the other challenges requiring the joint efforts of the entire globe -- remember global warming?  Its about due to start kicking our ass soon, so we gotta solve this COVID thing fast -- before the next massive hurricane, drought, or whatever nature has up its sleeve when it starts getting pissed off, hits.  If a Biden presidency can accomplish that, it will have accomplished a lot.

2 hours ago, Sticksboi05 said:

Only team in the East that worries me is Philadelphia - they are on a roll and have found themselves since March when things were suspended.

 

This team can beat any of the other teams in a series. Getting Carlson and Eller back will be big but ultimately this team will go as the centers take it.

The only team in the LEAGUE that really worries me is Philadelphia.  I thought Philadelphia was the team of the future, but apparent the future is now. They are flat out have more young talent than any team in the league, and unlike Toronto, they apparently know how to develop talent.  This might be the last year we are good enough to beat them, yikes.  

On 3/9/2020 at 11:05 AM, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

 

I think this gives Trump an out. The economy is close to the top of the cycle anyway.  If we are still hearing about corona June we are in a bad place.

Its August, there's no end in sight, we are not in a bad place -- we are approaching the outer circles of Hell.  Its kinda fun reading old posts from early 2020, when were still so innocent, and free.  

On 7/25/2020 at 10:43 PM, Riggo#44 said:

Good, I hope it's big, huge. I hope it can finally get Snyder out. 

Unless the Post is about to publish a picture of 'The Dan' shooting a puppy in the head while getting peed on by a Russian prostitute draped in a confederate flag, I wouldnt get my hopes up.

Dan Snyder draws his identity from this franchise.  If we want to take back this franchice, we're gonna have to pry this franchise from his cold dead hands.  So you know what Dan, you can have it.  You want it that much?  Have it.  **** you  and **** the Washington Whatevers.  Im done.

We cant just let this thing die, we have to make sure this is the spark for real change. Its time for mutiny, revolution, whatever you wanna call it, we're gonna have to wrest control of this frnachise back from Dan Snyder ourselves.

So maybe like a small protest demanding Dan Snyder be held accountable (by selling the team) for allowing this culture of misogyny to take place.  He is the owner, he is ultimately responsible for what happens in the franchises name, for what happens in that building.  You  could turn it into a general protest against NFL's widespread culture of misogyny and permissiveness to sexual harassment in the NFL.  That might get CNN's attention.  And if that get's CNN's attention, it WILL get the NFL's attention.  That might make them re-think their decision to not force Snyder to sell the team in light of these allegations, it puts them into danger by association and would actually be proof that their is a widespread problem that the NFL is failing to deal with.

4 hours ago, Rocky21 said:

The Snyder apologists in this thread make me sad.

 

 

I dont think there are any Snyder apologists left.  The vibe of this thread is cautious optimism that this may be the beginning of the end for Dan Snyder.  I think the caution is what you are misinterpreting to be support/excuses for Dan Snyder.  He has displayed the survivability of a bad infestation of bed bugs.  Or better yet, ****roaches -- Im pretty sure even if there's a nuclear war, somehow Dan Snyder will emerge as the owner of the Washington Whatevers.

On 6/30/2020 at 3:41 PM, visionary said:

 

 

 

 

I hate the term Islamophobia.  Suggesting that muslim women should be hung by their scarves isnt a phobia of muslims -- thats incitement of violence, thats terrorism. 

^^Just playing Devil's advocate here, but Andrew Jackson, while being a terrible person, was still a president.  Not every statue of him has to signify allegiance to confederate ideals...

And I am outright surprised by pulling down the Roosevelt statue.  Whats the meaning behind that?

Looking back at the early back and forth in this thread between Kilmer and Brandymac was a perfect microcosm of the highly ineffective  manner in which racism has traditionally been discussed in America.  One side points out that racism is really terrible right now, and the other side responds by pointing to the abysmal past as some sort of proof of progress.  One side cites Philando Castille, the other responds by pointing out Jimmie Lee Jackson.  One side cites police brutality, the other side responds that things were much worse in the 1960's.  This type of thing has always been the case, develoving into argument where the two sides are speaking past each other.  You could go back to 1960, and that same argument would be taking place -- one side would cite segregation, the other side would says hey thats better than slavery. 

I hope these recent demonstrations mark a turning point in the discussion.  I hope we are mature enough to realize both that racism remains a cancer with the potential to destroy the entire society, while also recognizing that some progress has been made.  Not enough progress, not nearly enough -- but enough hopefully to encourage us to redouble our efforts to expunge racism from society.   When you have cancer, you dont stop when the tumor stops growing and there are signs its receding.  But you also dont discount the apparent progress therapy has made.  You either maintain, or preferably increase the dosage regimen -- thats your only shot at survival.

The country is at the brink of a meltdwon.  There is absolutely, positively no explanation or excuse for the fact that the Minneapolis PD have chosen not to arrest Derrek Chauvin -- other than to take it for what it clearly has become: a clear message.   And the clearer the message gets, the bigger the fires that are going to be lit. 

6 minutes ago, Llevron said:

Eventually something is going to have to be done with the police or this will all just continue to escalate in the future. Im not sure how you fix this stuff anymore. You cant do anything with the police. People tried peaceful protest and that was meet with tear gas. Now they are turning to mob violence which will just be meet with more force. Its endless escalation. 

Sometimes the vague threat of a violent future is needed in order to get a little bit of (excuse the pun) breathing room.  Like how Malcom X really benefited the cilvil rights movement of MLK Jr.  Unfortunately, we dont have a Malcom X anymore.  Or an MLK Jr, for that matter.  

I just wanted to point out that Minneapolis is the same place where woman who called the police was shot to death by a responeding police officer that somehow misidentified her.  In that case, the reaction was swift; the chief of police was forced to quite, the city paid out a 20 million dollar payout.

In Minneapolis a year later, no murder charges, or even a manslaughter charge, have been made after a police officer was filmed purposefully choking someone to death, who was not resisting, nor was armed, nor was accused or suspected of a violent crime.  Nobody is wondering why the police officer's body cams were not sufficient evidence to reject their obviously inconsistent story of events, and that it took a 3rd party's camera evidence being reviewed by the public-at-large- for the police officers to be fired.

We're still waiting for criminal charges to be filed. All of the senior police department representatives continue to be employed, despite being unable to explain why once again the police department failed to properly investigate their officer's actions.   Why was the initial police offficer's verbal  account accepted, if body camera footage would have been enough to discount that lie.   Why did it take 3rd party's video evidence and resulting public outrage for the officer's account to be rejected and for them to be fired?  No riots, no 3rd party evidence was needed to handle business correctly in the 1st case, of the woman who got shot by police officers.   Hmm, I wonder why?

If you havent caught on by now, the 1st incident involved a black police officer and a white woman.  It proves that the tools are in place for some justice to be served.  So when it doesnt happen, when obviously-inconsistent police accounts are accepted until proven otherwise, Its a lack of will for that justice to take place that is at fault.  

46 minutes ago, Larry said:

And that's why the huge push to "reopen the economy", whether businesses want to open, whether they have customers or supplies, or frankly, whether it's safe. 

 

It's about cancelling unemployment. About not actually helping with the economic consequences of this disaster.  

I think thats one reason.  I think the biggest reasons all have to do with the november elections.  Obviously all the incumbent republicans want the economic recovery to begin ASAP, more than they care about the actual recovery of peoples health from COVID19.

Besides that, I cant figure out too many reasons why the country hit hardest and latest by COVID19 wants to be the one of the first to reopen things.  One possibilty is that we are that dumb.  BUT Ive also developed a bit of a conspiracy theory here, tell me if Im crazy.  I think its possible that some republicans (i.e. Trump) are so worried about the november elections that they are purposefully pushing to reopen too early, in the hopes of causing a COVID 19 resurgence that will be perfectly timed to disrupt the elections.  

Why?  In order to ensure a low turnout -- they will simultaneously work to ensure that voting rules are unchanged  and therefore unable to cope with a locked down populace.

Also, the unusual circumstances would give Trump a reason to contest the election results, with the hope that he has enough of a case to got to the SC, which he already has in his pocket.  Or he could just outright delay the elections.

Think about ithow would you go about ensuring a COVID19 resurgence in the fall?

1. 1)  Open things a little too early, like May for example.
2. 2) Then let things "marinate" throughout the summer.  Pounce on any drop of infectivity that may occur due to higher temperatures as proof that worst is over, so full normal life should resume.
3. 3) As soon as the temperatures cool a bit (as they tend to do around October) -- BOOM the virus comes roaring back just in time to wreak havoc on election day.

Or we're just that dumb.

On 4/24/2020 at 5:39 PM, kfrankie said:

 

I don't think contact tracing will be the answer here. If the virus does not subside considerably by June 1, I think we need to consider selective quarantining.  The more I think about it, the most critical thing we need to do is protect those individuals that have underlying health conditions from those in the general public that do not have a underlying health condition.  That means quarantining individuals that most at risk that fall generally into these categories:

 

(1) Over the age of 70;

(2) Moderate to severe ashma

(3) CPOD

(4) Moderate to severe coronary artery disease

(5) Diabetes

(6) Immune system illnesses

(7) Several other conditions/diseases that I don't have the time to list

 

I'm confident that otherwise healthy individuals under the age of 50 have very little chance of dying after contracting Covid-19. After all, there reports coming out now that around 25% of those infected never show symptoms.  https://foxbaltimore.com/news/coronavirus/new-research-suggests-many-people-have-had-covid-19-but-showed-no-symptoms  This figure does not include those individuals that have mild symptoms (I have "the sniffles"), or those that have moderate symptoms (i had "the flu" back in February, even though i got a flu shot).  At any rate, the professionals just need to keep doing what they can. One thing I see missing from the data is the percentage of infected that do not die, but suffer some sort of permanent lung damage. We've seen the anecdotal evidence of this, but I don't believe there's been any sort of effort to collect data and determine the risk. We need to see something reliable on this before opening things up.  It's one thing to die, and its quite another to have to live for the next 25 years with 50% of your lung capacity.

Selective quarantines will not work with a virus as contagious as COVID 19.  I dunno the exact numbers, but just about every household in America has someone with Diabetes or high blood pressure or asthma in it.   For the quarantine to be useful, all members of the household would have to be quarantined.  Which just gets us back where we are now, a lockdown for everyone.  

If the population not at risk is allowed to resume life as normal, the virus will spread  even faster and inevitably will spread to the at-risk population.  Unless you take unthinkable quarantine measures like physically separate the entire populations of those at risk from those not at risk,  into separate areas of the country (and guarding that border), there is just no way to make a selective quarantine useful.  

1 hour ago, No Excuses said:

 

The IC knew about a likely viral outbreak happening in Wuhan at that time, but characteristics of the virus wouldn't have been known unless you had to access to good medical data, which may or not have been available by then. If even medical professionals in China were being silenced and threatened around that time, I doubt that they were being allowed to collect and share data to understand what is happening.

 

The CCP even reprimanded the research group that sequenced the genome of the virus and released it to the global scientific community.

Dude, U.S. intelligence knows when Xi Jingping farts.  Theres no way that we didnt know something was up in China by the time the Chinese were busy covering it up.  Why the **** would we ever put ourselves in a position to have to believe China on anything anyhow?  Youre acting like we dont spend untold billions on intelligence.

Contrast this to the response to Ebola.  You didnt see us waiting around for Senegal to get its **** together, or relying on Liberia for for data.  By the time more than three Africans had contracted the disease, every black man with a bead sweat dripping from his forehead was getting sent for special screening upon setting foot into any airport around the world.

23 hours ago, No Excuses said:

This is a long stream of nonsense. We’re in this mess because China knew of a new viral disease outbreak as early as November and failed to notify anyone outside its borders. And then into mid-January lied about no evidence of human to human transmission until cases started popping up internationally. 
 

Calling a country that suppresses every aspect of human freedom, sends millions into forced labor camps and spent two months covering up a serious issue that is now a global pandemic “humane” is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on this board. 

I didnt mean to imply that China was a model government.  I know very well how crappy the Chinese government is.   It should be shocking that we may in fact be as bad as China when it comes to how humane we are.  My post is intended precisely to get people to wake up -- our government is really really bad right now.  Our leader seriously had to be talked out of just letting the Coronovirus run wild, or "wash over the country," because hes more concerned about the stock market.  That is the epitome of inhumane.  Until we get rid of Trump, we are in no position to call anybody else inhumane. 

As far as China lying to the international community -- do you honestly think that the our government wouldnt have done the same.  He PRACTICALLY ****ING DID.  Trump was playing down the virus until ****ing mid-February, and he didnt have any real reason to other than he and his party are more worried about the effects of an economic slowdown on their reelection chances.   Holy ****ing ****.   

I mean seriosuly, are you not aware what a joke this country has become under Trump?  When its all said and done, I guarantee, we will have been hit the hardest by COVID-19 - and yet we had two months heads up, we are pretty seperated from the rest of the world by two oceans, and we've spent a ****load of money on health care.   Why is that, exactly, you think? 

On 4/13/2020 at 2:53 AM, BigDibbs31 said:

Do you believe China's numbers are accurate?  

No I dont. And our numbers are even more inaccurate because you have to practically be dying to even qualify to get tested. 

Look, my post was a bit of hyperbole., but seriously we have to admit -- our government has done just about the worst job of any national government in the world with dealing with this virus.  We had a huge advantage -- the heads up of a couple months -- that other countries did not have, and our government completely squandered it.  Badly.  Testing was available in 3rd world countries like Senegal before it was here.  Right now, to this moment, we still have no ****ing idea how bad things really are, because widespread testing is still not available.  W...T...F...? 

This really should be a watershed moment for America.  Everybody has handled this better than us.  Everybody, including China

13 minutes ago, visionary said:

It's a bit more complicated than that.  China did things that we couldn't and wouldn't do and it didn't spread throughout the country like it did here. 

I disagree, depending on what things your are referring to.  If you mean the tight quarantine that China imposed on Wuhan, well I fail to see how they are so much more unacceptable than the lockdowns that some of the country is aleady under.  I havent left my house in a month, we cant go anywhere unless its to the grocery store.  Cant even go to the beach, which is 5 minutes from my apartment, as I found out from a rather rude policeman who immediately ORDERED me home.  How much stricter a lockdown do you mean?   

China did what was necessary in order to save peoples lives and prevent the spread of the illness.  If we wouldnt do the same, than we are less humane than the Chinese.  That means we worry more about some foggy notion of freedom than we do about peoiples acrual ****ing lives.  If you say that we couldnt, that means we are less capable or less intelligent.  Period.  

1 hour ago, visionary said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Chinese government is better than ours.  Let that sink if for a moment.  Their leader is not both heartless and a moron, like our leader.  They care more for their people, and do a better job of protecting their people, than our government -- COVID-19 proves it without a doubt.  We have more COVID-19 cases than China, despite the fact that COVID-19 originated in China, and that we had the prior warning and full 2 month advantage that CHina did not. The only explanation for that is the Chinese government is simply capable or more humane than ours.  THAT is ****ing shameful.