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57 minutes ago, Going Commando said:
I think Corum is one of the exceptional players that catches both the analytics and traditional eye test scouting people napping. His age is a long term issue, but it also means that he's probably going to be good immediately. And not just by rookie standards, but potential top five back standards if he ends up on a team like San Diego or Dallas where there is a major workload waiting for him. I remember seeing a stat earlier in this thread about how bad his yards after contact/forced missed tackles ratings were compared to other backs in the class, and thinking to myself "something doesn't feel right about that." What was going on finally clicked for me when I watched his magnificent 15 minute long career highlight video:
His running is so phenomenally good that defenders aren't even getting into position to attempt a real tackle on him. Whether they are unblocked in the hole or at the edge. He's one of the most unique outside zone runners I've ever seen at the college level, and certainly one of the best at following downfield blocks. I have never seen someone so comfortable and efficient at cutting back or even reversing field on outside zone runs before. That's just not done in D1 football and up, and it's so next level to me. And when it comes to backfield creation, he presses the hole so well, that plays where normal good runners have to do something creative to make the first guy miss don't even typically come up for him. And yet he never runs up the back of his blocks. It's ridiculously good pace and timing--God given instincts and quickness.
He is so good, that I'm struggling to explain to myself why I'm resisting putting him in my top 20. Guys who make high level football look easy, like they're playing Pop Warner at the Power 5 level are special. Sometimes you just need to turn your brain off and enjoy a special player, and that's what I think needs to be done with Corum.
He had a team visit with New England. I think there is a good chance he goes at 34. Yes, there is a big chance that New England comes away with Drake Maye and Kingsley Suamataia.
Damn GC, that was instantly one of the 3 top highlight reels I have ever watched. I'll be honest, I haven't even considered a RB before the 6th or 7th round because of so many needs that we have and how this draft has so many great players at or near our natural slots. I've found 50+ different ways of addressing our most glaring needs of QB, LT, X-WR, RT, DB, EDGE, G, LB, TE and FS that I've figured RB to be a luxury pick. But after watching that, I really don't see how you could pass him up as an AWESOME offensive weapon. And I'll be willing to bet money that Peters has him on his radar.
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1 hour ago, Bifflog said:
I find the PFF mock simulator (which is subscription only) is kinda nice for this because most of the backend players have a a write-up along with the grades.
I don't know what I'm doing, but I liked this one:
This is a beautiful draft. I only wished you doubled up on DB instead of edge. But that said, I love every player in this list.
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12 minutes ago, KillBill26 said:
Does anyone know where I could find past mock draft results? I know we use the same thread and delete the old results off the first post and replace it with the current draft, but I didn't know if the old ones were archived somewhere. I searched ES GM's Mock Draft and only found the current year's results. Thank you!
I would love to see them too. If you find them, please come back to this thread and make a post. Thanks!
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4 hours ago, method man said:
You could move up for Mims and then trade back from #40 to a little later in rd 2 and add a 4th and still get whoever is left between Amegadjie, Suamataia and Fisher in the 2nd. I would absolutely double dip on this OT class given Wylie is a very temporary bandaid at RTJust looking at the 2nd round in that PFF mock, and the players left after our 36 and 40 picks, I would have taken Suamataia and Persall if I were making straight picks. These mock drafters really have no idea about the majority of team's needs and it shows more often than not. The mock that really surprised me was JP Findlay's mock, which just seemed completely underwhelming. Especially for a guy that's plugged-in.
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5 hours ago, CommanderInTheRye said:
Challenge:
Predict the top 5 picks (with trades) for bragging rights.
1. Bears take Caleb
2. Commanders take Daniels
3. Vikings trade with Patriots and take Maye
4. Arizona takes MHJ
5. Giants trade with Chargers and take McCarthy
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Contest Scoring System-
You get 1 point for correctly picking the first pick.
5 points for correctly picking the Commanders pick (it has to be the most points we’re on a Commanders forum).
3 points each for correctly picking the 3rd, 4th, and 5th draft picks.
Bonus of 2 points for every correctly predicted trade. (You must be correct on both the teams that trade and the player selected).
1. Bears take Caleb
2. We take Maye
3. NE takes JJ
4. AZ takes MHJ
5. SD trades with MIN for a haul of picks and MIN takes JD-
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4 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:
Wow, I didn't see that coming. Guess he really didn't flash at all when he played.
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2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:
Rewatched TEs almost all day long, my final rankings
This is awesome SIP. Thank you! I know that you and GC and the rest of the ES draft-gurus with their own big-boards were talking recently about starting a big-board thread. I'm sure it's a huge amount of work along with things like this post here, not to mention your real life schedule, but have you or anyone decided to actually start one? I'd love to see someone's actual board on here. Even if it's a cut-and-paste thread where folks can see what our OWN educated ES talent evaluators have for themselves. The first and only big-board i've ever seen was the PFF board that was leaked a week after the combine.
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6 minutes ago, Chump Bailey said:
I like the Temple ILB Jordan Magee but there are certainly others. Wallace, Ulofoshio and Steele Chambers are others I would not hesitate to pull the trigger on.
What do you think of Nathanial Watson Miss St?
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More and more mock drafts are having Chop available at pick 36. I have been wanting to do a mock with a trade-down to add another pick, but every time I get to my next pick, someone special is sitting there that I can't pass up, lol. This is such a rich draft for talent!
Washington Commanders
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Caleb Williams
QB | USC
A+
36
Demeioun Robinson
EDGE | Penn State
A+
40
Ricky Pearsall
WR | Florida
A
67
Patrick Paul
OT | Houston
B+
78
Max Melton
CB | Rutgers
A+
100
Ben Sinnott
TE | Kansas State
A
139
Christian Jones
OT | Texas
B+
152
Johnny Wilson
WR | Florida State
B+
222
Tyrice Knight
LB | UTEP
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no trades...
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Caleb Williams
QB | USC
A+
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Demeioun Robinson
EDGE | Penn State
A+
40
Kingsley Suamataia
OT | BYU
A
67
Patrick Paul
OT | Houston
B+
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Jalen McMillan
WR | Washington
A
100
Kris Abrams-Draine
CB | Missouri
A+
139
Jamari Thrash
WR | Louisville
C+
152
Jared Wiley
TE | TCU
A+
222
Nathaniel Watson
LB | Mississippi State
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11 hours ago, Hooper said:
The RG3 Daniels comparisons are annoying.
Daniels has shown he can go through his reads and throw with anticipation -- best in his class according to many.
RG3 pretty much never showed he could do that. In Kyle's offense he was great if his first read was open. After that, especially once the league caught on, it was not good.
Daniels' arm never looked this awesome on his best day! He's nowhere close to Griffin's arm. But that's not even what I have an issue about. When I compare Daniels to RGIII, I am STRICTLY talking about the dual-threat running QB taking hits because they choose to leave the pocket as a runner. In 2012 we only played 16 games in regular season, and at least 7 games, RGIII took a MAJOR hit as a runner. The Ravens game, Panthers, Giants, Falcons, Saints, Rams and Bucks He was friggin pummeled. Sometimes he got up, and sometimes he didn't. Ironically, the injury that finished him, was him reacting to a bad snap in the seachickens wild-card game.
My point about Jaden...and it's ALWAYS BEEN my point about Jaden, is that he's just as reckless as RGIII, if not more-so, to leave the relative safety of the pocket and venture out past the line of scrimmage as a runner, on his own, with no blockers. That alone is DREAD to a fan like myself. Now add in that he's 2 inches taller and 15 pounds lighter......DO THE MATH!!! And for the Ra Ra Ra cheerleaders who always follow a 'mean-spirited' post like mine with the obligatory 'well, he hasn't been hurt yet' (I like Jaden, so I wouldn't be a jerk and jynx him), lets just say that he's mortal.
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18 hours ago, CommanderInTheRye said:
I’m in the parking lot at my gym about to do some hill intervals followed by an lsd (long slow day) workout on the treadmill and as I was setting up the motivational videos I’m gonna watch while power walking I ran across this new baby.
Haven’t watched a second of it, but I think I heard or read someone saying it’s a good video.
If it’s a waste of your time stop watching and downvote or cuss out my lazy old ass for being so inconsiderate— I’ll take it like a man, but if you get something out of it, please share the love if it isn’t too much trouble.
Anyways…
Why the Eff can't Jay slow down and talk at normal speed. He always sounds like a chipmunk on a coke-bender.
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On 9/20/2023 at 7:58 PM, -9- said:
19761977 Washington Redskins DT Diron Talbert, DT Bill Brundige and DE Karl Lorch, although Lorch looks so much like Russ Grimm in this photo.-
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28 minutes ago, WashingtonRedWolves said:
Yeah hes skinny as **** there, no denying it. But then theres this pic from his pro day where he looks considerably thicker compared to those pics, at least to me
Honestly WRW, this pic makes me feel heaps better than what he looked like playing during the season. While he's not broad, he's thicker through his neck all the way down to his calves. I wouldn't dread him as a pick now.
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Washington Commanders
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Caleb Williams
QB | USC
A+
36
Demeioun Robinson
EDGE | Penn State
A+
40
Ladd McConkey
WR | Georgia
A
67
Cooper Beebe
IOL | Kansas State
A
78
Kiran Amegadjie
OT | Yale
A+
100
Khyree Jackson
CB | Oregon
B+
139
Christian Jones
OT | Texas
B+
152
Jamari Thrash
WR | Louisville
B+
222
Tanner McLachlan
TE | Arizona
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27 minutes ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said:
Continuing on from 2023, I've been doing some CB rankings again.
** indicates there wasn't enough film I saw that showed if they could/couldn't do some things I was looking for.
2023
Tier Ranking Name 11 Joey Porter Jr 2 Devon Witherspoon 2 3 Christian Gonzalez 34 Kelee Ringo 5 Julius Brents 6 Cam Smith 7 Deonte Banks 8 DJ Turner 49 Jakorian Bennett 10 Emmanuel Forbes** 11 Tre'vius Hodges Tomlinson** 12 Riley Moss 2024
Tier Ranking Extra Potential? 1 N/A N/A 21 Quinyon Mitchell Yes 2 Kool-Aid McKinstry 33 Terrion Arnold Yes 4 Cooper DeJean ** Yes 5 Mike Sainristil 6 Cam Hart ** 7 Renardo Green 8 Ennis Rakestraw 9 Max Melton Yes 410 Nate Wiggins 11 Kamari Lassiter 12 TJ Tampa 513 Kris Abrams Draine 14 Kalen King 15 Josh Newton Haven't watched yet but want to: Andru Phillips, Khyree Jackson
The extra potential column is new, just means I think they've got a higher ceiling than expected.
I don't have a good equivalent to what Tier these guys are and where I think they should be drafted. But if I had to ballpark it maybe it's something like this:
- Tier 1 is Top 10. (Picks 1-10)
- Tier 2 is 1st round. (Picks 11-32)
- Tier 3 is early-mid Day 2. (Picks 33-75)
- Tier 4 is late Day 2 to early Day 3. (Picks 76-130)
- Tier 5 is mid-late Day 3. (Picks 131-250)
Thanks for the Work you put into this. Can't wait for A. Phillips and K. Jackson. My bet is they slide in Just below DeJean down to Melton. And that's the sweet spot for man-press or dual role/man press CB that we need to dip into. That's 7 fine CBs we may nab between early 2nd and mid 4th.
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1 hour ago, boston skins fan said:
came here to post this. isnt it like 90% accurate or something?
Used to be pretty accurate in the 20th century. Since 2000, not so much. But to the point of Washington playing on the MNF prior to the General Election, I think it's still a go.
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3 hours ago, Jumbo said:
Well yeah, such guesses are among the easier ones to make.
The question is the how productive is that "thinking", inc. expanding it to other guessable reasons, versus just doing in depth one on ones. Not a big deal, but I'm questioning the merit. Sort of wondering why risk an unforced error type of outcome.
Maybe it's not about the players at all. The Harris group is doing their due diligence in every facet of this organization, right down to the smallest details. Including their primary message board! And you can obviously see how their decision to schedule all these important top-30 visits on the same day has thrown the last 9 pages of this thread into turmoil. Up is down, day is night, dogs and cats living together, and now Chump Baily has run off with illone and joined the JJ McCarthy team in the last 5min while nobody was looking. Whoever came up with this idea to schedule these visits all-together is some kinda sick genius.
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2 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:
He’s awful under pressure. He always has been. The only reason that some of his metrics looked better under pressure this year is because his coaches realized that as a QB, he sucks under pressure and told him that whenever it happens he needs to turn into a running back.
so here’s the situation if you draft him at number two, you’re either hoping that he’s never going to have to play under pressure, or you’re thinking that he is just going to run every single time that he gets pressured with his stick figure frame, or you believe he’s going to suddenly learn how to play under pressure even though he couldn’t do it in five years of college football.
I agree with this post. To go further with your point, after watching this sack video, I went to YouTube and watched Maye's sack video. My conclusion is that Daniels is down right ugly when he takes a sack and I'm awed that he wasn't hurt in 50% of them. OTOH, Maye didn't look like a rag-doll while being sacked. JMO
On a side note, I've been around the ES board for 16yrs and finally hit 1k posts! Hooray for me! 🤪-
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3 hours ago, Going Commando said:
I'm convinced drafting Daniels over Maye is a mistake, and I don't have any interest in rationalizing or normalizing a mistake. I can't cope with a loss of faith in the team by trying to trick myself. I'm just going to have to take a step back if/when we do it, and accept that my expectations got too high. This team is not worth high blood pressure.
I don't have anywhere your football knowledge, but as a true FAN of the team, your takes on 'loss of faith' and 'expectations' in this team seem to mirror mine to a tee. Better than anyone else has put into words in any post. I also feel a real dread about picking Daniels over Maye because to me, he doesn't have near the shelf-life that Maye or even McCarthy have. And given our circumstances, and what we are building, I see that as extremely short-sighted.
Where I differ on this a bit is with two things:1. I really do trust the organization as a whole now. From Harris, to GMAP, to Quinn, Kingsbury, and even the players we are bringing in. IF IT HAPPENS to be that we take Daniels, I have to trust that these guys did their work and truly think he's the best candidate for the job. At which point I will pray to the Lord that they were right, while at the same time, pray for the success and protection of said candidate.
But, while I won't hope for the failure of Maye, if he goes to another team, I will closely monitor his success/failure of his career, and always second-guess the wisdom of passing on a prospect that turns into a perennial contender and franchise QB if ours doesn't and he does. I don't want to start this journey with this new team with dissention and animosity. But that brings me to my second point.
2. All this Daniels hype is just that. Hype. Nobody knows jack right now. It's both amazing and annoying as hell for us fans. But looking further into the Daniels hype, you gotta look at the source. Any real meat of this hype comes from QandA's with Dan Quinn. Set aside all the trusted coaches and scouts Keim and Sheffer have asked to opine on the subject, Dan Quinn is the only one who's quoted anything of substance. And his answers look and seem to be touting Daniels. From being a 'game-changer', to being a 'nightmare to game-plan for', He's been praising Daniels harder than Maye.
Now, Quinn is a savvy coach. And He's part of the new team that is 'hush' on this pick. To me, those quotes were as much dis-information as they were complimentary of a really good football player. And in this case, totally worthless as to how he/we are leaning.
I think the HONEST giveaway and the real meat to how we are leaning is the reaction Dan Quinn had at Drake Maye's pro day. With that big smile and his body language as he turned and fake-walked away from Maye while he was dropping 50yd dimes to his receivers in-stride, spoke more than ANYTHING Quinn has said thus far. In fact, for a savvy coach that is part of this no-leak FO, I was surprised to see him give so much away.
So, in conclusion, I feel like I have been paroled after a 30yr stint in San Quinton. I've been given a new lease on life with this crowd. I finally don't have to shut off my TV after week 3 because it's already hopeless and I care more about my health and peace-of-mind than to jeopardize myself and keep watching the same train-wreck decade after futile decade.
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26 minutes ago, lavar1156 said:
Someone please catch me up. What do we think we do at LT? Take one in the 2nd or possibly trade back into the first round?
Smart money is BPA at each position. Unless there is a possibility to package some picks to move up for an elite blue-chipper in the mid to late 1st. But OT doesn't seem to have any of those elite prospects in the draft this year. So, while there's an outside chance we would move back up into the 1st, it probably wouldn't be for a OT. Plenty of serviceable OTs in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th.
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On 4/15/2024 at 10:33 AM, tmandoug1 said:
Peter's loves Maye.
Maye will be the pick.
I think it's time for everyone to put their money where their mouth is. Start making some real wagers with real consequences. Like sig-bets or something. I'm in! I'll wager something on the fact that I think it's going to be Maye. The problem is, I'm not a mean person. So while I may lose and be plastered with a horrible moniker like 'Califan007 The Constipated' for a year, I don't think I can come up with anything quite as revolting.🙃
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18 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:
Does this boost him back to the late 2nd-early 3rd? One of my fav pass rushers in this draft
I've been checking out player ranking sites this morning and about half have elevated Jonah up to as high as pick 40 to hover around #75. I know he's undersized, but watching his film is like watching Nick Bosa play for SF. Non-stop motor and bend around the edge.
2024 Comprehensive Draft Thread
in The Stadium
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That's the first Bang cartoon I've seen in 10+ years. Glad to have e'm back.
Edit: I just re-read your post and this in not a Bang cartoon. Well, hopefully a new QB on this team will be just the thing Bang needs to start pumping out new video jewels.