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On 5/17/2024 at 8:03 PM, bird_1972 said:

 

I figured as much, but I'd like to hear of hires (many hires, actually) to our scouting dept. 

 

It's been one of the smallest and least resourced in the league. To me, that's a huge need and I'm hoping AP prioritizes it. The silence is worrisome.

Ever since this post, the flood gates have opened. Keep up the good work!

9 hours ago, zCommander said:

 

Not sure where you were looking but this came out the same night the schedule was released on the Commanders website. It shows all 3 preseason games. I always look for this every year so I can make it as my laptop's background. Easy to refer to every week. 🙂

 

What I meant was that I could swear that THIS ES page had the same tool-bar as the team page, and now it doesn't. Maybe I'm mistaken because I had many pages open leading up to and following the draft. Somebody let me know if I'm wrong about this and I will consider slowing down my gummy consumption, lol.

1 minute ago, AlwaysBeRedskins2Me said:

Type in " 2024 Washington commanders preseason schedule" into google. It shows last year's schedule and this year's schedule. It shows Dallas from last year, then us vs Miami. Then us vs NE. Both preseason games. Then immediately shows us vs Tampa Bay week 1. I have checked multiple sources too 🤷

 

 

Up until a few weeks ago ES had the same header bar as the team site, with schedule, roster, news, video, etc. For some reason it's gone now. I wonder if it has anything to do with the front office and JW? I hate when updates to apps and websites move us backwards into the stone-age instead of making things easier. 

13 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Everyone can have their skepticism and paranoia related to his physique and let that dictate their fandom if they want to.

 

Personally, it been too long since we’ve truly had an organization worth rooting for.  I’m going to marinate in the fluff and feel really good about the kid loving football and the impact that could have on this team.  Whatever happens, happens - but I’m going to do my best to be a fan about it, until it’s obvious I shouldn’t be.

Honestly I meant it when I answered CITR's poll question about preferring Maye but supporting Daniels if he's the chosen QB at #2. And the more I see him move, see his quick smooth release and tight spiral, the more I am comfortable we chose correctly. My biggest hang-up was his build. Specifically having spindly legs. But his off-season weight room dedication is obvious. He's put on significant mass in his legs and to me, it's no longer an issue. I am very excited to see JD being able to start working on day one with routes and timing with his receivers, and not to have to waste the time working on his foot-work. He looks very polished from the jump.

4 hours ago, The Consigliere said:

Its been a long time since he was solid in '15 and good in '16. 

Wow. You should run to Vegas and bet the higher total options on win totals if you believe that. Betters are taking the over on 6.5, you could get a HUGE pay out on an O/U of 8 or 9 compared to the current odds on 6.5 (I think -115 to -130). I would bet you could get +300 or +350 at least on over 9.5, maybe +400 to +450.

 

I have us at 5.5 but I'm in a minority, and I think Vegas was probably smart to put it at 6.5 as my expectation is 5-6 wins. 

It's funny that you said this about the over/under Vegas odds. I was just thinking last night that I would throw a few bucks down on the over, but at 6.5 wins and nothing more. I don't want to jynx anything, or press my luck on betting a feeling versus Vegas wisdom. No reason to make the line any harder than 6.5

11 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I think that’s a bit aggressive. 
 

We also have a new HC, new coordinators and schemes on both sides of the ball, a rookie QB, and other holes on the roster.

 

Let’s face it:  what Peter’s did in FA was essentially sign a whole bunch of B/C level guys to one year deals because Ron left the cupboard entirely bare.  And there was no way to solve all the problems in one draft.

 

If the season started today, you would have Lucas and Wylie as the starting tackles. 
 

I think this team is going to play hard and be exceptionally well prepared.  But there is also going to be a learning curve.  For everybody, because every system is new.

 

i hate to play the record game because there are so many variables, but I think they’re probably between 7-9 wins.  And I would take closer to the 7 than the 9. 
 

Could they get to 10? Sure.  But that would also have to probably coincide with the e complete collapse of either Dallas or Philly, and the other taking a bit of a step back also.  If you’re going to get to 10, you have to at least go 3-3, maybe even 4-2 in division.  
 

We were 0-6 last year in division.

I agree with you that it's aggressive and it would be safer not to go out on the limb and just stick with a middling win count of 7 or 8 games. But if that was the goal of DQ and AP, we NEVER would have signed Bobby Wagner. He could have stayed in Seattle and made more money and have a better core team around him with fewer holes. Sure, his QB would be Sam Howell, but his coach wouldn't be Apathy-Ron.

You are also correct about the caliber of talent and amount of holes we had to fill. We are definitely going to have to over-achieve to get to 10 wins and 1 post-season win, but I think it's achievable with the culture change. Just compare this team to 2012 and the amount of talent and change that squad had. 2012 had a better supporting cast at LT and WR and RB. But this roster is close. And it's close to the amount of change that we had in coaching staff, as well as hype for the new QB. 

This year is going to be electric. These players and coaches are already feeding off that electricity and it will continue to grow once the fan base is plugged in. It's gonna be like watching RG3 for the first time in game 1 against Drew Brees in NOLA, and with that energy, overachieving will be the by-product.

I expect a 10-7 record which either outright wins the NFC east, or gets us the wild-card game.
 

We have the inside scoop on every NFC team (at least for this year) with our new coaching hires. DQ and Witt know Dak Prescott's weaknesses inside and out. Brian Johnson knows Jalen Hurts' offense and players, and Bobby Johnson knows the Giants weaknesses. Sure, schemes will change every year, but we'll never have a bigger advantage than we do NOW.

Nobody knows us. Hell, we don't even know us, lol. That in it's self is a big advantage. I expect a similar year to 2012 where we start out slow before the bye, but finish strong thru the end of the season. 

We now have coaches who are competent. We can produce players, rather than letting them rot. Weather we sign another OT or WR before the season (which I feel we will do one or both), or go with the players on the current roster, we still have upside in many on this roster. Hell, there's 5-6 O-linemen on the roster that have not been released that could be answers for back-up/rotation, or even a starter at T or G. 

We have Larry 'The Weasel' Izzo as our ST coach. One of the best in the business. With the new rule changes on kickoffs, I expect Izzo's impact to be 3+ to 6+ points per game average, which will give us the edge in the close games we usually lose as a rule. When was the last time we blocked a punt, FG or extra point? I can't even remember. I'm sure it was pre-Danny Smith.

I expect the offense to be average or better before the bye, and to finish just outside the top 10. Having competent OC who mixes up the run and pass, along with a dual-threat QB will open up so many more key match-ups because teams will have to use a fast player to spy our QB and play contain on him. At the very least, play-action will be believable.

I expect to start and finish the season with a top 10 D. 

And finally, I expect to win at least one post season game for the first time in forever.

It will be fun to come back to this post after the season and see how close it was, or how much of a homer I was, lol. But for once in 3 decades, I have hope.

3 hours ago, Bifflog said:

A bit of a compliment sandwich for our UDFA WR:

 

 

 

Well, well, well. Looks like the sun doesn't rise and set outta Howie Roseman's ass after all. Looks like AP beat him to the punch on MRJ, and good for him/us.

13 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

 

 

His friends call him "Mo" which is short for molasses, as in he's as slow as molasses.

 

Don't see too many wide receivers with 4.8 speed in the league nowadays.

Looking at his bio, the 4.8 40time stands out vividly, but watching his catch highlights, that kid is special.

2 hours ago, DWinzit said:

Aiyuk for a 3rd and 1st round CB with 4 more years on a rookie contract...and year supply of milk shakes, burgers and fries for she weight training

I was thinking the same thing. Straight up player swap with no extra pick. 

Edit: I still think Forbes can be an outstanding CB for us with some quality coaching. As some here have stated, he's not quite the DQ-mold as far as what Dan looks for because of his rail-thin build, and DQ wants heavy hitters. But he is a healthy 1st round CB with elite traits. He's still worth a 1st regardless of weather he fits OUR new system or not.

24 minutes ago, dswerdlw said:

Still waiting to see who signs OT Julian Pearl. I'm guessing he's weighing offers or he's just done with football.

What have you heard that would suggest Pearl could be done with football? Was he questionable going into the draft?

12 hours ago, DWinzit said:

It's a pretty good guesstimate.

Who's your PR if Crowder is cut...Milne, Allen, Dotson? Meh.

I have a hard time seeing Milne and Allen making the team. I feel like Crowders still in.

Could be Kaz Allen, but gut says they keep Crowder instead of Milne

1 hour ago, clskinsfan said:

OT signed finally

 

Washington Commanders Undrafted Free Agent

• OL – David Nwaogwugwu, Toledo
   
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Definitely not even a good RAS score here. What gives?

8 minutes ago, Est.1974 said:

I agree. That’s still on the table for me.

 

If TRADE rolls along the bottom of the screen when we are on the clock it will be fun in here 

I will say this, if trade rolls across the bottom of the screen, then I know we are getting Jaden. I've felt all along that Maye will be taken at 2, weather by us, or NE.

6 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Good question. I'm not high on Morgan at all and although I like Kingsley, I don't at 36, so most likely Ladd, but Nubin is still BPA.

See, I'm kinda opposite in that I would pick Kingsley because the only DB I would take that early would be Kool-Aid if he fell. I would take my chances that if I missed Ladd at 40, I could grab Persall.

12 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I do not want to move up, but a move up, combined with a move back that nets us some more picks in that 75-110 range, would be sweet. 

 

 

Also, I think BPA for us at 36/40 could very well be Nubins. I usually mostly watch safeties and LBers and I slacked on it this year. 

Just curious, if Suamataia, McConkley and Morgan are there at pick 36, Who do YOU take?

12 hours ago, Going Commando said:

Here are my defensive position rankings.  I keep moving people around, so I'm just going to post them and be done with it:

 

Edge:
1 - Jared Verse
2 - Dallas Turner
3 - Laiatu Latu
4 - Darius Robinson
5 - Chop Robinson
6 - Bralen Trice
7 - Austin Booker
8 - Jonah Elliss
9 - Chris Braswell
10 - Marshawn Kneeland
11 - Myles Cole
12 - Nelson Caesar
13 - Javon Solomon
14 - Jalen Green
15 - Mohamed Kamara
16 - Eric Watts
17 - Brennan Jackson
18 - Jalyx Hunt
19 - Xavier Thomas
20 - Braiden McGreggor

 

IDL:
1 - Byron Murphy
2 - Johnny Newton
3 - T'Vondre Sweat
4 - Kris Jenkins
5 - Braden Fiske
6 - Michael Hall
7 - Brandon Dorlus
8 - DeWayne Carter
9 - McKinley Jackson

10 - Marcus Harris
11 - Ruke Orhorhoro
12 - Jordan Jefferson
13 - Justin Eboigbe

LB:
1 - Payton Wilson
2 - Edgerrin Cooper
3 - Junior Colson
4 - Jeremiah Trotter Jr
5 - Cedric Gray
6 - Marist Liufu
7 - Nathaniel Watson
8 - Tommy Eichenberg
9 - Trevin Wallace
10 - Kalen Deloach

 

CB:
1 - Quinyon Mitchell
2 - Nate Wiggins
3 - Cooper Dejean
4 - Terrion Arnold
5 - Kool-Aid McKinstry
6 - Kamari Lassiter
7 - TJ Tampa
8 - Mike Sainristil
9 - Max Melton
10 - Renardo Green
11 - Jarrian Jones
12 - Ennis Rakestraw
13 - Khyree Jackson
14 - Elijah Jones
15 - Caelen Carson
16 - Cam Hart
17 - Kris Abrams-Draine
18 - Andrew Phillips
19 - Chau Smith-Wade
20 - Nehemiah Pritchett

 

S:
1 - Tyler Nubin
2 - Cole Bishop
3 - Dadrion Taylor-Demerson
4 - Tykee Smith
5 - Kam Kinchens
6 - Sione Vaki
7 - Javon Bullard
8 - Kitan Oladapo
9 - Jaylinn Simpson
10 - Jaden Hicks
11 - Calen Bullock

Glad to see you give some love to Nathaniel Watson in your power rankings. Kid's raw but is perfect size for MLB. He can cover and stuff the run and is a tackling machine. Fits the mold of what Whitt is looking for on his D.

11 hours ago, Going Commando said:

Here are my defensive position rankings.  I keep moving people around, so I'm just going to post them and be done with it:

 

Edge:
1 - Jared Verse
2 - Dallas Turner
3 - Laiatu Latu
4 - Darius Robinson
5 - Chop Robinson
6 - Bralen Trice
7 - Austin Booker
8 - Jonah Elliss
9 - Chris Braswell
10 - Marshawn Kneeland
11 - Myles Cole
12 - Nelson Caesar
13 - Javon Solomon
14 - Jalen Green
15 - Mohamed Kamara
16 - Eric Watts
17 - Brennan Jackson
18 - Jalyx Hunt
19 - Xavier Thomas
20 - Braiden McGreggor

 

IDL:
1 - Byron Murphy
2 - Johnny Newton
3 - T'Vondre Sweat
4 - Kris Jenkins
5 - Braden Fiske
6 - Michael Hall
7 - Brandon Dorlus
8 - DeWayne Carter
9 - McKinley Jackson

10 - Marcus Harris
11 - Ruke Orhorhoro
12 - Jordan Jefferson
13 - Justin Eboigbe

LB:
1 - Payton Wilson
2 - Edgerrin Cooper
3 - Junior Colson
4 - Jeremiah Trotter Jr
5 - Cedric Gray
6 - Marist Liufu
7 - Nathaniel Watson
8 - Tommy Eichenberg
9 - Trevin Wallace
10 - Kalen Deloach

 

CB:
1 - Quinyon Mitchell
2 - Nate Wiggins
3 - Cooper Dejean
4 - Terrion Arnold
5 - Kool-Aid McKinstry
6 - Kamari Lassiter
7 - TJ Tampa
8 - Mike Sainristil
9 - Max Melton
10 - Renardo Green
11 - Jarrian Jones
12 - Ennis Rakestraw
13 - Khyree Jackson
14 - Elijah Jones
15 - Caelen Carson
16 - Cam Hart
17 - Kris Abrams-Draine
18 - Andrew Phillips
19 - Chau Smith-Wade
20 - Nehemiah Pritchett

 

S:
1 - Tyler Nubin
2 - Cole Bishop
3 - Dadrion Taylor-Demerson
4 - Tykee Smith
5 - Kam Kinchens
6 - Sione Vaki
7 - Javon Bullard
8 - Kitan Oladapo
9 - Jaylinn Simpson
10 - Jaden Hicks
11 - Calen Bullock

I don't see Gabriel Murphy on your EDGE list. What's the deal with him? Is he injured or have bad medicals or something? He's all over the board on mock drafts from 3rd round to 7th. But PFF power rankings have him solidly ranked around pick 110.

12 hours ago, goskins10 said:

 

 

Do you have Excel? I treid and it opened for me.  Of course it's on my machine.   I sent it through PM. Maybe try there.  If not, I will ask the mods if there is way. 

Got the PM and looked but I don't have Excel. I'm sure that's the problem. Gonna wait till I get with the fam tonight and open it on a different computer with it. Appreciate it GS10!

11 hours ago, goskins10 said:

 

 

Lets see if I did this right. Untitled spreadsheet.zip

 

 

If this does not work.  I might be able to do file by file. But that might take more time.  

Ahh Ha! That did it. TYVM

PICK: 2 RND: 1 (WSH)

Drake MAYE

QB North Carolina

PROFILE

PICK: 36 RND: 2 (WSH)

Ladd MCCONKEY

WR Georgia

PROFILE

PICK: 40 RND: 2 (WSH)

Kingsley SUAMATAIA

OT BYU

PROFILE

PICK: 67 RND: 3 (WSH)

Patrick PAUL

OT Houston

PROFILE

PICK: 78 RND: 3 (WSH)

Max MELTON

CB Rutgers

PROFILE

PICK: 100 RND: 3 (WSH)

Johnny WILSON

WR Florida State

PROFILE

PICK: 139 RND: 5 (WSH)

Tommy EICHENBERG

LB Ohio State

PROFILE

PICK: 152 RND: 5 (WSH)

Erick ALL

TE Iowa

PROFILE

PICK: 222 RND: 7 (WSH)

Myles HARDEN

CB South Dakota

2 hours ago, goskins10 said:

Lets see if this works. Here are the results I have back to 2017. Someone let me know if it works or not. I can try something else. 

 

 

ES_Draft_Combined_042424.xlsx 197.39 kB · 1 download

I couldn't get it to open

2 hours ago, Riggo#44 said:

Funny, but @Bang did it better.

 

That's the first Bang cartoon I've seen in 10+ years. Glad to have e'm back.

Edit: I just re-read your post and this in not a Bang cartoon. Well, hopefully a new QB on this team will be just the thing Bang needs to start pumping out new video jewels.

57 minutes ago, Going Commando said:

 

I think Corum is one of the exceptional players that catches both the analytics and traditional eye test scouting people napping.  His age is a long term issue, but it also means that he's probably going to be good immediately.  And not just by rookie standards, but potential top five back standards if he ends up on a team like San Diego or Dallas where there is a major workload waiting for him.  I remember seeing a stat earlier in this thread about how bad his yards after contact/forced missed tackles ratings were compared to other backs in the class, and thinking to myself "something doesn't feel right about that."  What was going on finally clicked for me when I watched his magnificent 15 minute long career highlight video:

 

 

His running is so phenomenally good that defenders aren't even getting into position to attempt a real tackle on him.  Whether they are unblocked in the hole or at the edge.  He's one of the most unique outside zone runners I've ever seen at the college level, and certainly one of the best at following downfield blocks.  I have never seen someone so comfortable and efficient at cutting back or even reversing field on outside zone runs before.  That's just not done in D1 football and up, and it's so next level to me.  And when it comes to backfield creation, he presses the hole so well, that plays where normal good runners have to do something creative to make the first guy miss don't even typically come up for him.  And yet he never runs up the back of his blocks.  It's ridiculously good pace and timing--God given instincts and quickness.

 

He is so good, that I'm struggling to explain to myself why I'm resisting putting him in my top 20.  Guys who make high level football look easy, like they're playing Pop Warner at the Power 5 level are special.  Sometimes you just need to turn your brain off and enjoy a special player, and that's what I think needs to be done with Corum.

 

He had a team visit with New England.  I think there is a good chance he goes at 34.  Yes, there is a big chance that New England comes away with Drake Maye and Kingsley Suamataia.

Damn GC, that was instantly one of the 3 top highlight reels I have ever watched. I'll be honest, I haven't even considered a RB before the 6th or 7th round because of so many needs that we have and how this draft has so many great players at or near our natural slots. I've found 50+ different ways of addressing our most glaring needs of QB, LT, X-WR, RT, DB, EDGE, G, LB, TE and FS that I've figured RB to be a luxury pick. But after watching that, I really don't see how you could pass him up as an AWESOME offensive weapon. And I'll be willing to bet money that Peters has him on his radar.

1 hour ago, Bifflog said:

 

I find the PFF mock simulator (which is subscription only) is kinda nice for this because most of the backend players have a a write-up along with the grades.

 

I don't know what I'm doing, but I liked this one:

 

This is a beautiful draft. I only wished you doubled up on DB instead of edge. But that said, I love every player in this list. 

12 minutes ago, KillBill26 said:

Does anyone know where I could find past mock draft results? I know we use the same thread and delete the old results off the first post and replace it with the current draft, but I didn't know if the old ones were archived somewhere. I searched ES GM's Mock Draft and only found the current year's results. Thank you!

I would love to see them too. If you find them, please come back to this thread and make a post. Thanks!

4 hours ago, method man said:

You could move up for Mims and then trade back from #40 to a little later in rd 2 and add a 4th and still get whoever is left between Amegadjie, Suamataia and Fisher in the 2nd. I would absolutely double dip on this OT class given Wylie is a very temporary bandaid at RT

Just looking at the 2nd round in that PFF mock, and the players left after our 36 and 40 picks, I would have taken Suamataia and Persall if I were making straight picks. These mock drafters really have no idea about the majority of team's needs and it shows more often than not. The mock that really surprised me was JP Findlay's mock, which just seemed completely underwhelming. Especially for a guy that's plugged-in.