Hitman#21

55 minutes ago, Chris 44 said:

Fraley is the current OL coach, would like him as our OL coach but no idea if he's qualified to be OC here.

My point is he would be out OC, multiple reports have stated he would be the guy Ben brings. Ben is calling the plays he is more than qualified. 

2 hours ago, Chris 44 said:

Curious to see who Ben Johnson would bring in as a OC. Not sure he would bring in an already proven guy. I could see a young guy who has similar views as Johnson with Johnson being the de facto OC and having a guy underneath him that he can trust to follow his lead. 

Hank Fraley Lions OL for our OC

56 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Mahomes doesn't play Purdy. He plays SF's defense, which is quite good.

SF D got exposed by GB and DET, they aren;t good.

29 minutes ago, bird_1972 said:

Is anyone concerned about the game Ben Johnson called? I know conventional wisdom has him as the top HC candidate out there but I can't shake an uneasy feeling about him not keeping his foot on the gas in the second half vs. the 49ers.

The HC passed on multiple FG and they scores 31 points. Enougn said.

It's Ben Johnson, it always was Ben Johnson, and now it will be officially announced this week.

9 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I have zero interest in Quinn. The only guy not still playing football I would be interested in is Slowik and I think he needs to stay in Houston another year.

Ben is the man, been telling you guys it's done. Enjoy this!

Was -175 earlier this week..

Wonder who tried telling everyone here it's done.

Ya don't say

11 minutes ago, lavar1156 said:

Let's say the Lions win. And we interview Ben Johnson in person next week and both parties want each other. Could they announce that they've come to agreement for Ben Johnson to be the next coach? Obviously he wouldn't start officially until after the Super Bowl.

Nope.

Colts and Cards waited til the Tuesday after the SB to announce.

13 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

Vrabel at DC would be a coup. Im surprised he hasnt got another HC job.

He's getting paid in full, I can guarantee he isn't taking a DC job. He will be sitting out the szn if he doesn't get a HC job.

Just now, SoCalSkins said:

Exactly. I doubt Carolina makes their hire unless Johnson’s agent told them no first. 

Johnson has been the guy for at least a month. The rest is window dressing.. 

On 1/24/2024 at 12:42 PM, LetMeSeeYourWarFace21 said:

 

Also Hitman, throw in the next winning Powerball lottery number while you're at it..........

😀

As I was saying...

1 hour ago, KDawg said:

No one is ignoring the smoke, though.

 

Does anyone else ever read conversations here and then see replies and you question your own sanity? Because I feel like I have to be the one missing something here.

Someone was trying to share info with you and now they won't in the future, that's all you missed here bud.

I'll go back to lurking. 

Just now, KDawg said:

Look... I think a lot of us are pretty sure it's Johnson. 

 

I think most of us agree that there is probably a deal in place in principle.

 

That's not the disconnect.

 

The disconnect is using wording like, "it's done".

 

For something to be done the deal needs to be signed and official with the League. It isn't. If it was, we'd be all sorts of ****ed.

 

It is technical. But it is real. 

 

You're using "done" in a way that "done" doesn't actually mean. The process isn't finished because it's not official.

 

And when things aren't official, things can change.

 

I agree that once the Lions are out we will be likely announcing Johnson as the new HC. 

I understand, all is good my friend. 

Peters doing his friend a solid. 

2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

Is this Andyman's new screen name?! You have direct knowledge of the negotiations then? And if you have direct knowledge, that means the League has direct knowledge of these secret negotiations. Negotiations that are in direct violation of league rules and would probably cost us several draft picks.

This is why nobody wants to share info here. Replies like this...  I'll be back with the official announcement be well. 

Have a good day! HTTR HTTC

Just now, RWJ said:

I agree.  There was a plan by Harris, I believe and a brilliant one.  He hires Myers to help recruit Peters, check.  He hires Rick Spielman whose Brother Chris works for Detroit to get Ben Johnson.  Can't say check but I believe as you do HM21 it was a done deal when they had their virtual interview and possibly before that.    

It's been done for awhile RWJ. Both are going through the process for different reasons (favors to agents, Rooney rule, etc). Like I said it'll be announced next week or the Tuesday after the SB. 

I will see you guys then  

Just now, KDawg said:

 

This is like talking to a wall.

 

It's not done because it's not signed because it would be very illegal for that to be the case.

 

Yes, we are talking technicalities.

 

But technicalities are still the truth. 

It's done.

Idk how many timesI can say this without saying it lol.

Just now, KDawg said:

 

He can't be naive. There is no official deal because there can't be.

 

Is there a deal worked out in principle with his agent? Maybe. But Carolina hasn't signed a coach yet, either. So it looks like they're hanging in and waiting, too. 

 

Things can change when deals are in principle. You never, ever assume in business. Ever.

Whether you want to believe it or not it's done. 

Like I said either next week or the Tuesday after the SB it'll be official. 

Just now, Riggo#44 said:

 

Finlay has also said to "remember the name Joe Hortiz." I don't believe we even interviewed him. He also said similar things about Dan Quinn and Raheem Morris.

Not going to beat a dead horse but it's Ben Johnson. We'll see next week or the Tuesday after the SB. Willing to bet my account on it..

Just now, Riggo#44 said:

 

This post should be pinned and required reading to post in this thread. It is a league rule. Based on what reputable sources have said, he is the #1 option--but as Karl Marx once sang, it don't mean nothing, until they sign it on the dotted line. Assuming the Lions lose to the 9ers, I would expect Johnson to be the hire next week, but you never know. There are a lot of moving parts and influencing factors. Keim has repeatedly said nothing is done, guaranteed or anything like that. He is far more proven correct than anyone in the National windbag media.

You're being naive.

Peters was a done deal weeks ago as is Ben Johnson. Also Bob Meyers and Spielman didn't come together the Monday they fired Ron lol

Just now, RWJ said:

We will but the beauty of Detroit's team is how Campbell is the leader.  Yes, he has called the OF plays but he turned it over to Johnson when Johnson was ready and he is a leader.  Leadership is what Johnson has been around and he will build the same culture here and hopefully, when Fraley moves on the next in line will be able to step up and take on Fraley's role as OC.  I hope that Johnson is able to bring more coaches from Detroit with him if he wants to.  I don't see Campbell not letting him but Campbell won't let him strip his coaching staff either.   

Agreed 100%

3 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

National media has shown to be ill-informed compared to the local beats. I'll wait for Keim to say it.

JP Finlay has also said it's going to be Ben.. Do you not want Ben? 

Just now, Riggo#44 said:

 

National media has shown to be ill-informed compared to the local beats. I'll wait for Keim to say it.

Keim is great but he won't say anything til it's near official. If you've been listening he is implying he is the front runner. Ben is the guy pending anything falling through.. 

Just now, RWJ said:

Hope it happens and if not, my #1 Mike MacDonald.  Great thing about Ben Johnson is we've heard from GMFB that Fraley, his OL coach goes with him as his OC.  Makes sense because his OL play a HUGE part in his scheme.  Hogs 2.0?

Fraley is excellent and we may lose him one day but would be excellent while here. 

6 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

When Keim says it, I'll believe it. Who are Boomer's sources...in New York? 

He works for CBS the pre game show. He has sources. 

Boomer isn't one to throw stuff around.