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Pretty bummed that I have something going on- again- during the in-person relocation event. I don’t know why they did the switch from virtual to in-person.
My rep Sophia has been great. It’s been a very good level of service since Jason Wright took over, and I think their season ticket reps are the best part of the front office.-
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3 minutes ago, kfrankie said:
I have a 1 terabyte external drive at my office that's been sitting in a drawer for 4 years. So got the team independent backup problem solved.
In all seriousness, I don't see cost being a problem if its reasonable. For example, I bought a 1 year online subscription to the Baltimore Sun a few months ago for like $2.99, just so I could read about the Orioles. I never understood why these online newspapers try to charge like $99/year without any other option. People would gladly pay something dumb like $1,00 per month to be on this site. The only problem then would be who get the excess cash, so buy the domain, then incorporate "extremeskins.com" as a 501(c)(3). Do a one time "voluntary" endowment drive, buy the domain from the team, place the endowment funds in an federally insured money market account at a stable 2,00% interest rate, and continue the $2,99/year subscription fee. Offer a charity tailgate around Thanksgiving to satisfy the charitable purpose obligation in case someone wants to look under the hood.
Edit: Maybe I could buy like a 10 terabyte drive, but only if I'm given complete control over registration vetting.
GoDaddy’s appraisal has ExtremeSkins.com valued at $1515, but I bet the team won’t part with it for a variety of reasons. So if the team shuts it down, you’re looking at rebranding the new forum
I won’t get into the 501c3 thing, as I’m not sure how it work work for something like this. I would say I wouldn’t have a problem with someone or a group having an LLC, and at the end of the year sending some excess funds to a charity or two, with a “rainy day” fund set aside for six months operating costs.
I just think people are underscoring a lot of the time that will need to be put in, as well as the yearly board license fee and hosting. A site this large costs a lot of money to keep going with the peaks it is going to have in traffic. It’s easily into $200-plus a month range, probably more.
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10 hours ago, tshile said:
but theres important information that must be understood to even begin to get at costs. Putting a group together to come up with 300-500$ a month is one thing.
and that’s just the basic ****. Who actually owns the content, the domain registration, has a backup that’s in depending of the team… lots of details.
Gonna highlight those pieces. You can have all of the funding in the world, but someone has to have their name on it and take ownership of it. That also means liability.
Also, taking money from people here means someone has to be communicating where/what that money is being used for. Even if it isn’t used for that month’s server costs, as I imagine some people may only donate certain times/when they are able.
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Just now, PokerPacker said:
Of course we don't actually have to use Invision. There's still free message board software out there like phpbb and discourse. We don't necessarily need a whole lot of frills to keep the community going.
You still need someone to understand phpbb and be able to install it and work with issues.
The host I did mention in an above post was bought out and the new company does specialized vBulletin and XenForo hosting. They also do other forums. Their 8 options range from $119/month to $245/month for a dedicated server. They also manage backups and those things. I have no clue about the back-end of this site, but we might outclass their options.
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Just now, tshile said:
Yeah the thing I don’t like about their
Marketing material is they don’t give any bandwidth costs. Just overall storage and feature set. Maybe it’s just a software license and doesn’t include hosting. If that’s the case the storage allotment is odd.
I used to use vBulletin, and had a host who specialized in vBulletin (and then XenForo) software, so I could easily create a ticket with them to install a mod/hack and look at something. But I don’t know if something like that exists for Invision, or even exists any more at all.
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5 hours ago, tshile said:
I really don’t have the time
I think people are underestimating the cost and time commitment to it. And the headaches.
I would just point to various posts by mods over the years where they vent just a tiny bit and give a glimpse into the behind the scenes.
I would appreciate others spending their money and time, much like I appreciate the current people.
Having done all of this for myself, and for a similar role like TK does with a big company, people are drastically underestimating the cost and time commitment. A server to feature all of the traffic of this forum, especially during peak times like game days, draft, etc, is going to cost a lot. The database also compiles information over time. Then, you have to look for a skin and probably pay someone to do that. Paying a yearly fee to use Invision, and if you don’t know how to install their mods/hacks for features, paying someone to do those too.
We aren’t even talking putting up ads yet to make money, as well as managing the ads so people aren’t getting crazy ones.
It is a lot. It’s basically a part-time job with a lot more expenses that would need to be covered.
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2 hours ago, tshile said:
I mean, it’s not my idea.
Reddit would have a username + tying to other parts of life issue. Some would care, some wouldn’t.
generally my first thought was Reddit.
My next thought was discord. Which would be perfect. Except it’s a different communication model. It’s real time talking not really thread-that-runs-for-weeks…
We started a discord when Tribune axed PSD, it does not work the same. If you want it as a landing zone in case something happens, that would work, but it isn’t the same forum feel and many of those folks did not make the transition, or left shortly after.
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12 hours ago, zCommander said:
In the event that one day doomsday does come it wouldn't be a bad idea to start a thread there and brainstorm as to what to do next. Someone motioned discord on twitter/x. But I don't know much about discord though or if that is even a feasible platform for what we do here.
I could also host but these forum software are pretty expensive. The free ones don't look as nice. I started to dabble into that a little today but decided to plant some grass instead lol
Tribune cut the cord on PSD over the summer, and we’ve tried to keep a discord up for people but you are right, it just doesn’t work. It would be good as a landing zone for people though.
11 hours ago, PokerPacker said:Hope you don't care for twitter. Here's what ES looks like to me when people link twitter posts:
I think there is an issue with Invision (the software that runs ES) and how embedding works now that Twitter is X. It is happening on another forum I am on as well.
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13 hours ago, dunfer said:
how much does it cost to run a message board? it couldnt be that much...message boards are for old people. hell charge a yearly 10 dollar fee if you dont want to see ads for walk-in tubs or something
The forum is impossible to find once you click on any of the above links anyways. so just put us on life support till theres only one guy left (kdawg) posting useful stuff for history buffs
I ran a sports-gaming forum that had 130-230 users logging in each day. We had 20-30 who used a chat box every day which took up some bandwidth. Post counts were over 1 million for the board, and it was a 4-5 year old database for the forum plus a WordPress homepage. We had to have the ability to also plan for big spikes in activity- NFL draft, Madden release, etc. We paid about $120 a month and that was 10 years ago.
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2 hours ago, TK said:
Not really sure if Harris/Magic get the credit. Calling Magic out on Twitter/X whatever was a “Voice of the Voiceless” move for the entire 20+ year community that’s been built here.
But I’ll say this, while he’s been blamed for a lot of screwups under Dan, Jason Wright actually at one point offered to pay the server bill out of his own pocket.
THATS a move to get the fan base (at least here) back.
Props & respect to him for that.
I was an admin at one point on ProSportsDaily, and Covers (through Nova Scotia Media Pro through Tribune Media) decided to give everyone four days notice on shutting the site down and “merging” it with a sports gambling site.
From what I know about Wright, he interacted with a friend of mine at a tailgate late last season and was brutally honest saying he met Snyder only two times. So he’s all good in my book, him offering to cover the bill- which I know for a site this large is no small chunk of change- is pretty impressive.56 minutes ago, c slag said:Do all NFL teams have message boards ?
I only know of this one ,
and a Philadelphia Eagles one called "bleeding green nation" ? I believe that was the name ,not really sure
Most places are shutting forums down now, they just aren’t attracting many new members at this. Reddit, Discord and social media are how the younger crowd can communicate instantly, with a much larger audience.
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Anyone going to the film review event tonight? Never been to one of the events as a STH, figured why not for this since I come from a family of football coaches.
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Seatgeek just seems low rent. Freaking Foul Ball guy Zack Hample is sponsored by them. I guess that’s a small step up from the people usually associated with this franchise but still……it seems low rent for an NFL team.
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3 hours ago, psu2008 said:
I got hit by a woman turning out of the parking lot while I was driving on Arena Drive after the Giants Thanksgiving night game in 2017. A stadium worker responded along with a cop. The stadium worker just filled out a quick report (was worthless) and the cop didn't care because no one was drunk. I asked the officer to write a report and the stadium worker for video footage and they both said no because insurance would handle it. They seemed much more interested in getting out of there than helping. Never did get video footage despite follow up by insurance and myself.
My rep Sophia has been completely awesome. I had an email response from her within 90 minutes saying the head of security would be in touch, and within an hour after that, she actually copied them on another email. Now, haven’t heard from that yet, but I do appreciate that the “middle men” are actually trying here.
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On 11/21/2022 at 9:42 AM, pez said:
Sorry... Didn't see this, or I would have responded sooner...
Both Tanya Snyder and Jason Wright were sporting their ES Pins at that game.
If you guys recall, we had a ton of those made up a number of years ago to raise money for the tailgate charity (Abby's Army). Tanya reached out to us and then sent her son to our tailgate to purchase more than half of our stock, and handed them out to a bunch of the redskins staff, coaches and others. FYI, this is not the first time she has sported that pin.
During the housecleaning a year or two ago, Extremeskins kinda got lost in the mix, and completely forgotten (we had a couple outages because they forgot to pay the light bill). Huly and I and some of the folks here worked to get ES back on their radar, and I can tell you that Tanya is fully aware of this site's presence.
Despite what you think about Dan Snyder, I can tell you that Tanya is an absolutely awesome person... between her charity efforts, and the way she treats people in the organization, she has been a fantastic person to work with.
A concern that Huly and I have is what will happen to this site if a transfer of ownership occurs. We may want to make contingency plans to go independent again. WE will do everything we can to help make sure that the organization always knows about the presence of ES and the die hard fans that live here...
Haven’t really interacted here a ton, but I will say that forums as a medium have been dying and many are dead. They were extremely popular from 2005-2010, then things started to slowly bleed out when Twitter started. When Reddit became popular around 2014, forums died completely. There are very few large communities left, and many of them are slowly dying. I used to run ProSportsDaily, a very large forum, which is now owned by Tribune Media and operated by Nova Scotia Media Pros, who also operate Covers.com. Needless to say, most of their attention is on Covers. I stopped coming around to PSD mid 2020, and they still haven’t noticed I rarely log in, and don’t do anything in the AdminCP.
Before PSD, I ran a sports-gaming site on my own. We did well for ourselves, but with GroupMe and Discord becoming popular, the sports gaming leagues we hosted ended up going there so we lost a huge base.
It’s just the evolution of the internet. I’m sure ES is one of the more active forums out there, and fills a niche, but you also have Reddit to compete with. I f a new owner comes into play and wants to shut this place down and not sell the database, that’s it for ES. If that starts to happen, you might want to create a Facebook group to start stockpiling people if you do want to start a new site of some sort, whether forum or otherwise.Just my .02 coppers on the matter.
On 11/21/2022 at 9:42 AM, pez said:Sorry... Didn't see this, or I would have responded sooner...
Both Tanya Snyder and Jason Wright were sporting their ES Pins at that game.
If you guys recall, we had a ton of those made up a number of years ago to raise money for the tailgate charity (Abby's Army). Tanya reached out to us and then sent her son to our tailgate to purchase more than half of our stock, and handed them out to a bunch of the redskins staff, coaches and others. FYI, this is not the first time she has sported that pin.
During the housecleaning a year or two ago, Extremeskins kinda got lost in the mix, and completely forgotten (we had a couple outages because they forgot to pay the light bill). Huly and I and some of the folks here worked to get ES back on their radar, and I can tell you that Tanya is fully aware of this site's presence.
Despite what you think about Dan Snyder, I can tell you that Tanya is an absolutely awesome person... between her charity efforts, and the way she treats people in the organization, she has been a fantastic person to work with.
A concern that Huly and I have is what will happen to this site if a transfer of ownership occurs. We may want to make contingency plans to go independent again. WE will do everything we can to help make sure that the organization always knows about the presence of ES and the die hard fans that live here...
Haven’t really interacted here a ton, but I will say that forums as a medium have been dying and many are dead. They were extremely popular from 2005-2010, then things started to slowly bleed out when Twitter started. When Reddit became popular around 2014, forums died completely. There are very few large communities left, and many of them are slowly dying. I used to run ProSportsDaily, a very large forum, which is now owned by Tribune Media and operated by Nova Scotia Media Pros, who also operate Covers.com. Needless to say, most of their attention is on Covers. I stopped coming around to PSD mid 2020, and they still haven’t noticed I rarely log in, and don’t do anything in the AdminCP.
Before PSD, I ran a sports-gaming site on my own. We did well for ourselves, but with GroupMe and Discord becoming popular, the sports gaming leagues we hosted ended up going there so we lost a huge base.
It’s just the evolution of the internet. I’m sure ES is one of the more active forums out there, and fills a niche, but you also have Reddit to compete with. I f a new owner comes into play and wants to shut this place down and not sell the database, that’s it for ES. If that starts to happen, you might want to create a Facebook group to start stockpiling people if you do want to start a new site of some sort, whether forum or otherwise.Just my .02 coppers on the matter.
On 11/21/2022 at 9:42 AM, pez said:Sorry... Didn't see this, or I would have responded sooner...
Both Tanya Snyder and Jason Wright were sporting their ES Pins at that game.
If you guys recall, we had a ton of those made up a number of years ago to raise money for the tailgate charity (Abby's Army). Tanya reached out to us and then sent her son to our tailgate to purchase more than half of our stock, and handed them out to a bunch of the redskins staff, coaches and others. FYI, this is not the first time she has sported that pin.
During the housecleaning a year or two ago, Extremeskins kinda got lost in the mix, and completely forgotten (we had a couple outages because they forgot to pay the light bill). Huly and I and some of the folks here worked to get ES back on their radar, and I can tell you that Tanya is fully aware of this site's presence.
Despite what you think about Dan Snyder, I can tell you that Tanya is an absolutely awesome person... between her charity efforts, and the way she treats people in the organization, she has been a fantastic person to work with.
A concern that Huly and I have is what will happen to this site if a transfer of ownership occurs. We may want to make contingency plans to go independent again. WE will do everything we can to help make sure that the organization always knows about the presence of ES and the die hard fans that live here...
Haven’t really interacted here a ton, but I will say that forums as a medium have been dying and many are dead. They were extremely popular from 2005-2010, then things started to slowly bleed out when Twitter started. When Reddit became popular around 2014, forums died completely. There are very few large communities left, and many of them are slowly dying. I used to run ProSportsDaily, a very large forum, which is now owned by Tribune Media and operated by Nova Scotia Media Pros, who also operate Covers.com. Needless to say, most of their attention is on Covers. I stopped coming around to PSD mid 2020, and they still haven’t noticed I rarely log in, and don’t do anything in the AdminCP.
Before PSD, I ran a sports-gaming site on my own. We did well for ourselves, but with GroupMe and Discord becoming popular, the sports gaming leagues we hosted ended up going there so we lost a huge base.
It’s just the evolution of the internet. I’m sure ES is one of the more active forums out there, and fills a niche, but you also have Reddit to compete with. I f a new owner comes into play and wants to shut this place down and not sell the database, that’s it for ES. If that starts to happen, you might want to create a Facebook group to start stockpiling people if you do want to start a new site of some sort, whether forum or otherwise.Just my .02 coppers on the matter.
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On 11/15/2022 at 8:04 AM, just654 said:
they didnt just float the idea of PSLs it was a pretty much a forgone conclusion. They were surprised when everyone in my focus group about 20 people. Besides 1 person would buy into a PSL. They even said every new stadium has them. I said if every stadium jumps off a bridge does that mean our stadium will jump off the bridge as well. They didnt like that.
My great-uncle was a finalist for the top 70 team they did in 2004 or 2005, and I have a lot of fond memories of the team, but if they go PSL’s I am out. I am enjoying the time with my tickets now, knowing that I might attend one game a year from here on out when they do have a stadium.
But this is the cost of doing business for them, and people will pay it. A couple weeks ago, I got an email from UGA asking for donations to their NIL fund. And this is to people who donate money to a fund every year to get the right to purchase season tickets, and the amount of money you donate dictates how many you get, how close you are and if you can get tickets for the Florida game every year.
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Emailed my rep, but also figure I could ask here, but has anyone had any luck with getting in touch with someone and having camera footage released to them if they were hit in the parking lot during the game? Had a hit and run occur and it was definitely at the stadium, but we didn’t notice until this morning based on the location of the damage. They have to have cameras in the lots right?
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On 2/6/2022 at 6:06 PM, Hoover-ball said:
Makes sense but hopefully hanging in one more year will help. I hate a lot of what Snyder has done to the team and the roll out but I really don't want him to take away tailgating and enjoying the team, so I will soldier on.
It is easy to like RR and Gibson and Mclaurin etc.
HTTC (OK that is still to weird)
I was going to hold my tickets until they moved to a new stadium, because I love the tailgate environment at Fed Ex, and will not commute more than once or twice a year to DC or VA, but this just doesn’t feel like my team anymore. It’s an expansion team. The worst thing they could do was pick a name most of us were neutral to, and that’s exactly what they did. Now, they’ve got patches on the uniforms saying “Since 1932” and with the incorrect Super Bowl dates (when the club level banners have the correct dates on them), plus they are now signing emails “Hail to the Coammanders” and I just can’t. My uncle caught touchdown passes from Sammy Baugh. He played and coached for the Redskins. This just isn’t feeling like it’s my team anymore.
And honestly, I like some of the players, but I hated the Rivera hire- he had the same number of winning seasons in Carolina that Bruce Allen had here- and he was a part of this rebrand with NO history to the team. He, Jason Wright and Doug Williams, who doesn’t even have two full seasons worth of starts, were leading the rebrand with Danya. Gus Frerotte and Mark Brunell had more starts. So what we got is what we got.
I thought I would be done a year after Football Team, so I will give it s year, but I would’ve much rather kept Football Team. Going to the Commanders, rewriting our history and making an alternate jersey maroon and black just isn’t doing it for me.
On 2/7/2022 at 9:24 AM, Howie411 said:Just got an email about select a seat day. Looks like its in person this year.
Thank you for renewing your 2022 Washington Gold Membership! We look forward to welcoming you back as we enter this historic new chapter of Washington football.
We are excited to announce that this year’s Season Ticket Member Seat Relocation will be held at FedExField beginning on Saturday, February 19th. You will have the opportunity to view the best available seats in person to relocate to or add on for the 2022 season! Click here to RSVP by Wednesday, February 9th.
All members who RSVP will be assigned a specific time based on tenure.
Event will include:- Exclusive one-day-only upgrade incentives
- Meet and Greet with Washington Alumni
- Tour of the Locker Room
- Complimentary Food and Beverage
- Chance to view the new Gold Member Club Lounge
But of course we don’t even get a week’s notice. I have two events going on that weekend, and I am sure I am not the only one with plans that can not be moved.
On 2/10/2022 at 1:16 PM, skinsjoy said:My rep sent me the email. I RSVP'ed. You have the options: 1. Yes I'll attend. 2. No I won't attend and I don't want to relocate. 3. No I won't attend but I am interested in relocating. I chose the 3rd option so we'll see what happens!
Thanks again for the heads up! Until the emails are fixed I really appreciate knowing these crucial ones I'm missing...
Hmm, definitely interested in that. Might as well go out with a bang. I assume that contracts are a thing of the past for the club level at this point?
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On 2/2/2022 at 11:56 AM, Hoover-ball said:
I have not gotten anything so thanks for the heads up. I will reach out.
How are Season Ticket Holders feeling about the new name. Since fans of other teams seem to be posting a lot in other threads.
Not thrilled with the roll out or the selection process but here we are and my team so will only want criticism from fellow fans not interlopers. LOL
Pretty sure this is my last year with season tickets and as a fan……..it just doesn’t feel like my team anymore. This whole process was decided by outsiders, and the uniforms designed by the owner’s wife….and they are so desperate to make us feel this isn’t an expansion team that they put a patch on the back of each jersey above the name.
I just can’t deal with this team anymore.
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On 2/2/2022 at 1:54 PM, profusion said:
It's obvious that Snyder really wants a stadium/casino/mixed use thingy in DC. I'm assuming this bit with Bowser's statement was coordinated in advance. Snyder will try to play jurisdictions off of each other, but I'm sure a DC deal is the end goal.
Personally, I view the statement as more of a threat of moving. The lease is up in 2027, and Snyder will go where the cash is. I don’t have confidence we will be a winning team and do enough to get either MD/DC/VA on the side to publicly fund a stadium, so I imagine he puts out feelers to move and decide between that, or tearing down Fed Ex and rebuilding.
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On 6/9/2021 at 7:01 AM, just654 said:
When I picked up my cardboard head in the off season. The ticket reps did mention they were looking at all price levels. They realized they were higher for certain ticket locations. They had planned on lowering ticket pricing.
I bet you they raise everything else, just like what the Orioles did. Parking went up $5 per game (which isn’t much, admittedly) but concessions went up a truckload across the board, which was odd considering it feels like the Nats lowered parking and ticket prices, and concessions remained flat. But since this is the NFL, I’m a bit surprised they admitted this.
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Looks like they are sold out
Nevermind it finally loaded up
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3 hours ago, skinsjoy said:
So my window is open. Home side middle is gone. Also, they are only selling 100 level not 200. Plenty of seats left. Must purchase in blocks of 2 or 4. You can add more than one block to your cart, though. I am single and if a friend and I could get tested I'd go, but in Virginia (where I live) you have to have symptoms or need the test for travel or work. I guess we could lie, but that seems like...lying.
So you have to get tested to attend the game?
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I didnt see any window noted. Where did you all see it?
As far as tailgating goes, no one is going to stop me from bringing a cooler and some snacks in my car.
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22 hours ago, Hoover-ball said:
Nothing here though that would be nice.
Also MD is allowing fans at the game (10%) but I have not heard from the team.
Nothing came to me either. Something would be nice, but then again, I asked for the refund so maybe I'm off the list.
It does not appear that the team is going to let fans in at this time from the articles I've seen.
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I have long thought that “holding out seats” like this is shorthand for “these are broker seats, and if someone really wants them especially if they are adding seats we will sell to them.” Or, you can sub out broker for sponsorship comps, and they can always move those around if a paying STH really wants a different seat.
Were the free tickets just if you upgraded? My fiance and I are seriously considering the club upgrade from 114 to 315 because we enjoyed the Dolphins game up there, and all of the perks. I can’t imagine that it would be free tickets to all of the events, and just a one-time deal, but I have to ask.