Oh dont take my last post as a shot at you because it wasn't..I have a few ECW DVD's and most of those matches are great just because like you said every match was an extreme match no matter what..Flaming tables, **** load of tables stacked up and people falling through them..Matches going outside the arena..People jumping 20+ feet onto tables..The barbed wire match between Sabu and someone else I cant remember who it was, was a great match..I love watching those old matches like that..I was just saying, that they couldn't compete with the then WWF and WCW because the matches only appealed to so many.