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    For anyone who didn't read the dog-killing section of Noem's book, the dog sounded violent and uncontrollable so it was not just that she didn't like it or that it wouldn't hunt...

     

    At the same time, though, there are A MILLION OTHER WAYS OF HANDLING A DOG LIKE THAT OTHER THAN SHOOTING IT IN THE HEAD...there are literally dozens if not hundreds of organizations in the U.S. that specialize in training dogs to control their "alpha-ness" (for lack of a better way of putting it) and training it to socialize itself, often with the use of other well-behaved alpha dogs laying down the law. But Noem had the mentality of "What do I need them for? I have a gun." Sheesh...really do feel this will do her in for anything other than keeping her seat as governor. And maybe not even that.

  2. Lawyer asked Pecker if Trump ever expressed worries or concern about how Melania would react if she found out about the affairs...Pecker says "No." He also said he thought he was doing the things he did for the sake of the campaign, not the man and his family. Pretty much torpedoes Trump's claims that he only paid Daniels to keep Melania from finding out (which was already more or less known, but it's now official under oath).

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    As for the election interference trial...recent summary:

     

    Pecker (heh...pecker lol) was afraid he and the Enquirer would get into legal trouble if they paid Stormy Daniels like they paid to keep others quiet.

     

    Dylan Howard (Exec at National Enquirer) texted a relative of Trump (I think) that if Trump gets elected in 2016, "at least I will get pardoned for election fraud." Judge isn't allowing it to be introduced to the jury at the moment, guess that could change.

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    Recent summary:

     

    Alito: gives a lengthy list of worst-case scenarios if the president does not have absolute immunity.

     

    Lawyer arguing against that: says our judicial system has layers upon layers upon layers to keep those worst-case scenarios at bay that have worked for centuries.

     

    Sotomayer: says that if all those worst-case scenarios were to actually happen, it won't be due to presidents not having absolute immunity, but rather due to actions taken and legal decisions made that weaken our democracy that is the foundation of our judicial system.

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    Forgot lol...

     

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    Jackson(I think?): "It's hard to imagine that a president who breaks the law, is faithfully executing the law, correct?

     

    Lawyer arguing against absolute immunity: "He has to execute all the laws"

     

    Alito: "Yeah but POTUS has to make a lot of decisions, do you really think "if he makes a mistake he's subject to criminal laws just like anybody else??"

     

    Lawyer: "He has access to legal advice about everything he does. He's supposed to be faithful to the laws. And making a mistake doesn't land you in criminal prosecution. Engaging in conspiracies to defraud the united states, and in one of our most important functions, namely the certification of the next POTUS?"

     

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    Justice Jackson throwing down logic...

     

    J: "So for private acts, no immunity. For official acts, there's immunity. So the line drawing problem we're having with the hypotheticals is being necessitated by that assumption. If official acts didn't get absolute immunity, we wouldn't have to worry about drawing the line.

     

    So we're assuming official acts get immunity. Why is it that POTUS would not be required to follow the law when he's performing his official act? We know POTUS has the best lawyers in the world, and when he's making a decision he can consult with them to know if its illegal. So how can we say a POTUS can just do any official act and be immune? What is it about POTUS as opposed to other people with consequential jobs - what about POTUS means he doesn't have to follow the law where other officials do?"

     

    Sauer: "Well Fitzgerald..."

     

    J: "That was civil. Private civil liability. We can see how POTUS is different. But about criminal liability, how does POTUS stand in any different position to follow the law if everyone else has to?"

     

    Sauer: "All the checks: public oversight, impeachment, congressional oversight..."

     

    J: "I'm not sure that's much of a backstop. You're worried about POTUS being chilled. I'm worried about the opposite effect. Knowing there'd be no penalty for committing crime, what would stop turning the oval office into the seat of crime in the country? If the potential for criminal liability were taken off the table, wouldn't that embolden future presidents to commit crimes? Once we say "no criminal liability", I'm worried we have a worse problem than any "chill".

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