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37 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Cooley was on team980 today and he said it was the teams decision 

 

 

touche

44 minutes ago, veteranskinsfan said:

What does the Julie Donaldson tweet really mean that before she was hired they were already going to move on from Cooley and that it was not really her decision?

Or that Cooley made that decision.  

13 hours ago, mistertim said:

 

I'd actually swap Gibson and Sims: line up Gibson outside and Sims in the slot. Gibson is a burner who can stretch the field, Sims is quick and shifty but doesn't have that same 6th gear. Gibson ran plenty of vertical routes in college.

Don't hate it... i wasn't necessarily looking at flat line speed as much as i was picturing the scene in Top Gun when Maverick shows up to the fight at the end of the movie and there are planes buzzing around in all directions.  It would be hard for a defense to be able to anticipate who is going where.  

3 minutes ago, Darth Tater said:

Depending on injury and trade ops and assuming we keep 4 at DE, I think the first 3 DEs are as locked in as you can get. Young, Sweat and Kerrigan. The battle is DE4. A DE5 may also have a shot if one impresses.

Ive seen depth charts with Kerrigan at OLB and Anderson at DE.  I know none of them are anything more than speculation so we likely wont know much til week 1.  

43 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Posted a tweet in here about it at the end of the previous page. 
 

gonna miss Cooley and doc on game days though, but i like this crew. Also, with Michael, and now Cooley, gone, who takes their place for the Ron Rivera Coaches Show?
 

WFT Twitter seems salty about hall being on the broadcast after his comments a few weeks ago, but come on...do we really blame him? Hmm, a crappy team, patriots...a crappy team, patriots....if i were him id regret signing with the patriots too, knowing what i know now!! 

Crap my bad

6 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said:

 

I agree with what you are saying. That 2nd is a sunk cost. Ryan is worth keeping or he isn't. I think he is. My complaining might sound like it is about Ryan, but what I am really complaining about is our drafting/team building. I think Ryan has a place on this team, especially in short yardage running situations. I honestly still am not sure I love his as our 3rd DE. I just think we can do better. 

I totally agree about Chase Young. He is a Sean Taylor or Trent Williams caliber athlete. The difference is, he's stepping into a situation much better than those guys. The surrounding talent and the scheme should really allow us to see Chase at his best pretty early. And when people see Chase racking up numbers, AND, our defense performing well, he's going to get a lot of recognition. 

Yeah i want Kerrigan as our 3rd De.. not Anderson

5 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said:

 

Probably when he's not on his rookie contract with the team that drafted him. Or maybe never, if he's a 1st round pick. The point isn't that Anderson sucks. The point is that our draft process was so flawed. And it appears that it's always flawed. There has to be a systemic reason that we tend to hit on solid but unspectacular 1st round picks, miss in the 2nd and then find some later round gems. Are we not weighting traits heavily enough in the 2nd? We tend to grab high floor low ceiling guys in both the 1st and 2nd. That approach hasn't worked for us outside the first round. 

This is not directed as you, but more to elaborate on this whole thing

It's so frustrating that people feel the need to move on a player because they don't live up to their 'draft position.'  That's the whole 'don't cut off your nose to spite your face' saying.  So if we take a guy in the 1st round who happens to end up being a 3rd round talent, do we move on, not only giving up a 1st round pick, but also a 3rd round valued player?  Just because they didn't 'live up' to their draft position?  That's a double negative.  If we over draft a player that's still a contributor, we can't let that blurry the fact that we have a contributor on the team.  

Ryan Anderson is a perfect example of that.  He may not be worth a 2nd round pick... but he's also not the 54th rated player on the team either.  Do we move on from him and hold onto a 6th rounder because they're playing 'above' their draft value... but they're not actually better than Anderson? 

To bring this back together, I think this is a lot more about what you reference regarding a systemic reason that we end up getting talented players, but they're not true game changers.  I think the people making the picks have struggled with evaluating talent to fit the scheme that we're committing to, instead grabbing a player that they think is the most talented, and trying to force fit them into what we want.  Preston Smith and Brian Orakpo are examples of that.  Ryan Kerrigan to an extent is an example of that.  Kerrigan routinely finds himself rushing up field out of position on running plays.   He's a very effective pass rusher, and we want him to rush the passer, but the scheme and coaching often finds him out of position.  

Josh Norman was at his best in Carolina when he had an effective pass rush and he would read and react... we paid him a ton of money and put him on an island... not addressing our D-line until Norman had already been labelled a problem.  Meanwhile we draft Bashaud Breeland and let him leave to get paid $880k in GB, then $2m in KC and get a ring while we're paying .  Austin Reiter, won a ring in KC starting a C... a position that we've had in flux for 20 years that a lot of Redskins fans labeled a bust, and a JAG. 

Sorry to go off into left field but I feel that this does pertain to Chase Young.  He's the most talented, highest upside player we've drafted since Sean Taylor or Trent Williams.  A couple players like that bring the effectiveness of Anderson, Allen, Payne, and Sweat up a couple levels.  Those guys may ultimately be 'high floor, low ceiling' guys, but when you get elite pieces, everyone's else's ceiling can be lower and still be effective.  I think Rivera and Kyle Smith understand that.  Taking Gibson and AGG show me that.  Those are 2 high upside guys at skill positions... 

I think this is the right place to put this...

Not my dream group but they could have done worse. 

23 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said:

Imagine a similar alignment but with Kyle Pitts at TE. Motion Gibson to the slot and go empty backfield. 

lol gotta wait about 12 months for that 

5 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Yep, you and I both know most likely Haskins is going to be on the move a lot this season. Until we fortify our OL he's going to have to get used to being uncomfortable back there in training camp. This is good though because hopefully by the time the season starts he'll be used to being on the move often. 

I just hope the 'on the move' is to build on what he did last year.  I dont see Rivera / Turner turning us into a QB running team, so i'm not worried about that..  What i want to see more of from him is this:

and all of this please... 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/video/steven-sims-jr-has-career-day-two-touchdown-catches

Just now, Burgundy Yoda said:

Ah that makes sense. I haven't had a chance to listen to the Haskins presser yet. This DL has me incredibly excited. 

If Haskins can be effective against this D-line, it bodes really well going into the season for not only him, but our O-line.  Unfortunately we dont have the preseason, but practicing against our front 7 is about as good as you can get given the circumstances. 

4 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Sorry I guess I must have missed it. Which one of our OL is saying this?

Reading her thread it was in the midst of reporting on Haskins' presser, so I assume it was him and not an O-lineman. 

14 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Love, Sims as well. We have a lot of really fun pieces for Turners offense. No chain moving possession guys unless a TE or GG step up. Maybe Cam Sims, idk, but we have a bunch of give them the ball and watch them work types.

Was going to say the same thing regarding Sims.

Can you imagine the speed if you have Mclaurin and Sims outside, Gibson in the slot, and Love and Mckissic in a 2 back set?  I wouldn't do it often as you only give yourselves 5 down lineman, but talk about the ability to spread out a defense.  

9 hours ago, NoCalMike said:

What impresses me the most watching his film is how much effort he puts into every route, every cut, every comeback.  He never seems to take a play off or treat any route/situation as less important.  He is out there on every play with the intention to make an impact, whether it is a catch over the middle to move the chains, or beat coverage over the top to go to the house. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/adrian-peterson-gifts-his-historic-touchdown-ball-terry-mclaurin

and to go a step further

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/terry-mclaurin-quote-tells-you-everything-you-need-know-about-kind-player-he

3 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

FTFY. Every loss helped bring about the end of Bruce Allen...

 

His long last year was 32 yards--albeit with the Crapahan System. I hope he only has 5-600 yards this year--that means Guice, Love, and others are healthy and productive. But he's an excellent insurance policy.

Mark Sanchez at QB you score to take the lead 13-10 on a 90 yard run and Peterson ends up with 9 carries for 98 yards and you lose 28-13... my god that was bad.  

8 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

Beat me to it. He averaged over 4 YPC last year on a vanilla, ground-n-pound offense with a suspect offensive line. Not to mention he brings the one ability all of our other backs lack: availability. At this point in his career, he's not the game-breaker, but he's a solid vet running back who you'll know what you'll get from.

give me 15 games, 200+ carries and 900 yards any time.... most likely gets 1k if Gruden isn't the head coach through 5 weeks having AP inactive week 1 and no more than 12 carries over weeks 2-5

20 minutes ago, Alexa said:

We have two guys that if healthy, should get the ball. Guice and Love. Period.  AP is just too slow and is basically 2 to3  yards and that's it. I don't want him. McKissic and Barber are JAGS. Gibson is not a pure RB so not even sure why or if he even gets a shot there. 

 

Guice and Love are home run hitting type of backs. In this day and age this is what we need, not a RB that is about to get social security. Turner should come up with some formations where Guice and Love are on the field together. 

We are going to find ourselves in a very bad situation if AP is not on this team this year.  I can't bring myself to bet on Guice, Love, or Gibson to this point.  AP needs to be here, i'm sorry.  

i also think you're selling him short.  Bill Callahan was our HC so every single team we were coming up against knew that we were running the ball.  AP still averaged 4.3 ypc and had 0 carries over 40, and 6 carries over 20, so it's not like his average is inflated by a handful of long gainers.  Hard for ANYONE to break big runs when the box is stacked like that.   To put into perspective, Guice had a 60 yard carry.  Take that one away and his AVG was 4.51... right on par with Peterson.  Guice had 42 carries to AP's 211.  Guice has the ability to be game breaker, but Peterson isn't exactly Matt Jones with the '2 to 3 yards and that's it' that you want to reduce him to.  

3 hours ago, Warhead36 said:

Its why you never go bonkers on relievers. Its such a volatile position. Just rent new ones every 1-2 years.

Funny you mention it.. Rizzo has done this for years and has faced some serious scrutiny for it, now he looks like a genius.  

8 hours ago, -JB- said:

It’ll be great to see Soto back in the lineup tomorrow!  Speaking of Soto, I think Rendon is learning quickly there’s a huge difference between hitting in front of Juan Soto vs. hitting in front of Brian Goodwin!

 

STOCK WATCH 2020

 

Kieboom .417 

Rendon .167

 

boom. 🙃

have you seen Goodwin's numbers? lol.  OOF.. He forgot who he was...  

10 minutes ago, RFK Lives said:

Okay, ready to have rotten fruit thrown at me, now is the time to switch to the matte finish helmets.  Especially if this is actual color...and I hope it is.

I was just coming in to make the same point

34 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

 

They had a LOT more in their arsenal than buying Dan out. Again, if they knew (and let's face it, they'll probably say they did not) and either buying Dan's stock or selling their own stock is their go-to move, it was probably not so that they could change the team culture. They've been minority owners throughout Snyder's tenure (I assume that hasn't changed), and this has been going on throughout the last 15 years if not longer. If they knew what was going on, they had ample opportunity to do something. Wanting to buy Dan's stock or sell their own sseems more tied to the dwindling attendance rates and the overall value of the Skins starting to drop over the last 4-5 years...the timing fits better for that than for sexual harassment culture making them want to get out.

that's definitely hard to argue... 

5 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

 

If the other owners' reaction to this was simply to preserve their own skins, I have no respect for them whatsoever. They actually have the power to do something to help other than sell their stock.

there were reports they tried to buy dan out and he dug his feet in.  Its possible they were trying to do something about it and Dan just wont let go, and their next plan of action was to get out... or at least leverage their 40%

1 minute ago, dfitzo53 said:

Isn't being groped assault, or do I not understand the legal nuance of the terms?

I believe any touching that is not welcome can't be considered assault... but in the article the other 14 young women were speaking in anonymity.  I don't think any charges will be filed at this point, so as of now it's just hearsay.   If charges were being pressed, it likely is a completely different conversation. 

5 minutes ago, TK said:

My work here is done.  

I can't tell if this is insider TK, let's have some fun TK, or here's a hypothetical TK.... 

1 minute ago, TK said:

Y'all out here talking about Bezos while forgetting there's another fan of this team who just recently had his XFL 2.0 fold that could sweep in & buy the team....

 

 

 

https://makeagif.com/i/E0zZ2t 

 

 

woah...