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3 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said:

We have no idea how most of the owners view the situation. They could see Dan as somebody who stays in check with their league-wide votes and a new owner as a wildcard.

 

The NFL could think "This franchise run well is more money for all of us. This franchise run well with an owner who is a minority in the United States would be huge for our image and a new stadium in the Nation's Capital". I don't imagine they really care about social change. They want sponsors and money and media love. Snyder does none of that for them. 

If I'm the owners of the other teams... Snyder is my favorite.  His franchise went from $800 million to $3+ billion while it hasn't won squat.  Not only is it making money, but it's more often than not a soft spot on my teams schedule.  

I BELIEVE their tune will change once sponsorship money comes under fire.  If these parties start rallying to the big name sponsors for supporting the team, then the owners tune may change... which I think inevitably happens. 

2 minutes ago, JSSkinz said:

 

 

I agree, if Dan continues to be Dan it's going to be odd watching the team react to everything as if it has multiple personalities so at some point Dan has to zip it , I think its Dans last stand, he has one more chance with the fans, the NFL, and the sponsors to make good or my gut says the league starts to turn on him.

 

Either way I think it either works or its the beginning of the end for Dan.

 

The lawyer was on the radio this morning saying as many as 'a dozen' more people have come to her wanting to tell their stories.  This is all calculated.  It is no accident that this story dropped on a day where no practice was scheduled, so EVERYTHING that was reported about team came back to this story.  It's also no accident that this is all going down when the team finally changed its name and fan support is on its thinnest ice.  There are some powerful things or people at work here, and it's a calculated movement with likely the ONLY outcome being Snyder no longer owning the team.   There are likely more and more pieces of evidence that will continue to flow out as the previous story seemingly dies down until the ultimate goal is reached.  

1 hour ago, Panninho said:

I think their D-line is underrated. McCoy's injury didn't help but Dontari Poe, Tyrone Crawford and Neville Gallimore are solid DTs and Everson Griffen and Demarcus Lawrence are really strong DEs. They also have the wildcard Aldon Smith where early reports are that he is doing surprisingly good - who knows how accurate they are but they got a very solid line even without him. They are for sure better than our O-line as of now.

I hate to say it but I have to agree with you.  Their strength on defense is their front 7 if they can stay healthy.  The good news is that their secondary is a giant question mark.  Diggs looks to be a stud, but he's still a rookie with no offseason.  They are going to have get beat on 1st and 2nd down.  3rd and long all game could be a nightmare. 

1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

In this day and age, every piece of disparaging reporting about someone/something one likes is considered 'fake news'.  

 

When my new golf shoes show up at the door and my wife says "this looks like a shoe box", I'm just going to say "fake news" and see how that works.  I'm afraid this only works for billionaires though.

what if you take your shoes out and fill it with pencils... is it then a pencil box, or does it retain it's original purpose? 

1 minute ago, Califan007 said:

 

 

Yeah, but that's not what happened.

 

The videotaping was well known in advance by everyone--it's a "behind the scenes" type of release of a photo shoot (again, that pretty much every team releases) and was out in the open. It wasn't done secretly nor was it on any of the women's property. When they made the "Executive Meeting" video, it was made by cobbling together segments of that behind the scenes video that would normally be edited or cut out. Also, what they apparently did was zoom in on body parts that were in the original video. That doesn't meet the criteria for voyeurism.

yeah you guys are right, it's hard.  Va doesn't really outline the same way other states do like Alaska... which this would clearly fall under.

Just now, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

Where's this being read?

Just now, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

Ok counselor, but the cheerleaders were consenting.  They were participating in a risque photoshoot for a calendar.  The cheerleaders knew they were being photographed and videod, that's not really up for debate.  Was there anything that they signed from the team saying that the team would terminate any material that inadvertently exposed the genitals, pubic area, buttocks or female breast?  

 

 

I wasn't tryin to come off like a counselor i'm sorry, just trying to have a conversation. 

They would presumably be a non-consenting person if they were not aware of video regarding exposed areas of their bodies that are not intended.  They likely were consenting to photography that was outlined prior to the shoot and what would be expected.  Accidental nudity likely was not a part of that.  

I don't know.  I have to imagine that there is legal precedent to prevent someone from holding onto video of someone that exposed parts of their body that was not intended, even if it happens in the act of another 'photoshoot.'  How they link it to Snyder is hard to say, but if people come forward saying he was the one that ordered these, then there has to be some sort of intent to find out the validity of it.  The crime may have happened that you referenced. 

13 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

But he doesn't have any legit crimes under his belt.

 

Dude, I get it.  You hate Snyder, I do, too.  But that's the only thing he can be accused of right now, being a ****ty owner.  And a ****ty human.  

 

I'm sorry, but ordering that someone compiles nip slips on a dvd isn't a crime.  And asking a cheerleader to go to someone's hotel room isn't a crime.  Those are lots of things, gross, pervy, lecherous, distasteful...but not crimes.   

ACTUALLY.... voyeurism is a crime.  It is defined in different ways in different states, and this is how it's defined in VA

Voyeurism

On 8/22/2020 at 1:27 AM, COWBOY-KILLA- said:

My call today is LT-Christian LG-Martin C-Roullier RG-Sherff RT-Moses 

They aren't going to fool anyone into calling them the hogs but I think they will good enough to get the job done.

Any early injuries could change this toon real quick.

 

I've always liked Christian and thought he played fine anytime he did. I think he has upside and could pleasantly surprise many, if he earns the job. Lately, I'm more concerned with Moses and what seems like a rapid decline, hope he turns that around.

I hope you're right about the getting it done part.  I'm nervous. 

I really hope you're right about Martin.  It would be a big win if he can beat out Schweitzer and take over LG for us.  Schweitzer isn't anything special but I believe we brought him in to start unless someone in camp shows out... and Martin beating him would mean he showed out.  

12 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

Honestly, I would look at bringing in Delanie Walker for a spell. I think a little veteran leadership at TE as well as a one year stopgap is needed. No one on the roster now is a long term solution.

I wouldn't hate that at all.  If nothing else he gives you more vet leadership than Sprinkle.  1 year deal, 2nd year team option... 

On 8/21/2020 at 6:17 PM, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

We still have 5 ; any of which could conceivably make the team.

Not sure how you meant that ; But we may be thin on talent, but not thin on bodies.

 

Baugh

Hentges

Thomas

Rodgers

Sprinkle

I've been hearing rumblings about Baugh and I'm really interested in Hentges and if he can progress from some positives last year. 

17 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

Isn't that blackmail ?

hence the legal filing it referenced

37 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Cooley was on team980 today and he said it was the teams decision 

 

 

touche

44 minutes ago, veteranskinsfan said:

What does the Julie Donaldson tweet really mean that before she was hired they were already going to move on from Cooley and that it was not really her decision?

Or that Cooley made that decision.  

13 hours ago, mistertim said:

 

I'd actually swap Gibson and Sims: line up Gibson outside and Sims in the slot. Gibson is a burner who can stretch the field, Sims is quick and shifty but doesn't have that same 6th gear. Gibson ran plenty of vertical routes in college.

Don't hate it... i wasn't necessarily looking at flat line speed as much as i was picturing the scene in Top Gun when Maverick shows up to the fight at the end of the movie and there are planes buzzing around in all directions.  It would be hard for a defense to be able to anticipate who is going where.  

3 minutes ago, Darth Tater said:

Depending on injury and trade ops and assuming we keep 4 at DE, I think the first 3 DEs are as locked in as you can get. Young, Sweat and Kerrigan. The battle is DE4. A DE5 may also have a shot if one impresses.

Ive seen depth charts with Kerrigan at OLB and Anderson at DE.  I know none of them are anything more than speculation so we likely wont know much til week 1.  

43 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Posted a tweet in here about it at the end of the previous page. 
 

gonna miss Cooley and doc on game days though, but i like this crew. Also, with Michael, and now Cooley, gone, who takes their place for the Ron Rivera Coaches Show?
 

WFT Twitter seems salty about hall being on the broadcast after his comments a few weeks ago, but come on...do we really blame him? Hmm, a crappy team, patriots...a crappy team, patriots....if i were him id regret signing with the patriots too, knowing what i know now!! 

Crap my bad

6 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said:

 

I agree with what you are saying. That 2nd is a sunk cost. Ryan is worth keeping or he isn't. I think he is. My complaining might sound like it is about Ryan, but what I am really complaining about is our drafting/team building. I think Ryan has a place on this team, especially in short yardage running situations. I honestly still am not sure I love his as our 3rd DE. I just think we can do better. 

I totally agree about Chase Young. He is a Sean Taylor or Trent Williams caliber athlete. The difference is, he's stepping into a situation much better than those guys. The surrounding talent and the scheme should really allow us to see Chase at his best pretty early. And when people see Chase racking up numbers, AND, our defense performing well, he's going to get a lot of recognition. 

Yeah i want Kerrigan as our 3rd De.. not Anderson

5 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said:

 

Probably when he's not on his rookie contract with the team that drafted him. Or maybe never, if he's a 1st round pick. The point isn't that Anderson sucks. The point is that our draft process was so flawed. And it appears that it's always flawed. There has to be a systemic reason that we tend to hit on solid but unspectacular 1st round picks, miss in the 2nd and then find some later round gems. Are we not weighting traits heavily enough in the 2nd? We tend to grab high floor low ceiling guys in both the 1st and 2nd. That approach hasn't worked for us outside the first round. 

This is not directed as you, but more to elaborate on this whole thing

It's so frustrating that people feel the need to move on a player because they don't live up to their 'draft position.'  That's the whole 'don't cut off your nose to spite your face' saying.  So if we take a guy in the 1st round who happens to end up being a 3rd round talent, do we move on, not only giving up a 1st round pick, but also a 3rd round valued player?  Just because they didn't 'live up' to their draft position?  That's a double negative.  If we over draft a player that's still a contributor, we can't let that blurry the fact that we have a contributor on the team.  

Ryan Anderson is a perfect example of that.  He may not be worth a 2nd round pick... but he's also not the 54th rated player on the team either.  Do we move on from him and hold onto a 6th rounder because they're playing 'above' their draft value... but they're not actually better than Anderson? 

To bring this back together, I think this is a lot more about what you reference regarding a systemic reason that we end up getting talented players, but they're not true game changers.  I think the people making the picks have struggled with evaluating talent to fit the scheme that we're committing to, instead grabbing a player that they think is the most talented, and trying to force fit them into what we want.  Preston Smith and Brian Orakpo are examples of that.  Ryan Kerrigan to an extent is an example of that.  Kerrigan routinely finds himself rushing up field out of position on running plays.   He's a very effective pass rusher, and we want him to rush the passer, but the scheme and coaching often finds him out of position.  

Josh Norman was at his best in Carolina when he had an effective pass rush and he would read and react... we paid him a ton of money and put him on an island... not addressing our D-line until Norman had already been labelled a problem.  Meanwhile we draft Bashaud Breeland and let him leave to get paid $880k in GB, then $2m in KC and get a ring while we're paying .  Austin Reiter, won a ring in KC starting a C... a position that we've had in flux for 20 years that a lot of Redskins fans labeled a bust, and a JAG. 

Sorry to go off into left field but I feel that this does pertain to Chase Young.  He's the most talented, highest upside player we've drafted since Sean Taylor or Trent Williams.  A couple players like that bring the effectiveness of Anderson, Allen, Payne, and Sweat up a couple levels.  Those guys may ultimately be 'high floor, low ceiling' guys, but when you get elite pieces, everyone's else's ceiling can be lower and still be effective.  I think Rivera and Kyle Smith understand that.  Taking Gibson and AGG show me that.  Those are 2 high upside guys at skill positions... 

I think this is the right place to put this...

Not my dream group but they could have done worse. 

23 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said:

Imagine a similar alignment but with Kyle Pitts at TE. Motion Gibson to the slot and go empty backfield. 

lol gotta wait about 12 months for that 

5 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Yep, you and I both know most likely Haskins is going to be on the move a lot this season. Until we fortify our OL he's going to have to get used to being uncomfortable back there in training camp. This is good though because hopefully by the time the season starts he'll be used to being on the move often. 

I just hope the 'on the move' is to build on what he did last year.  I dont see Rivera / Turner turning us into a QB running team, so i'm not worried about that..  What i want to see more of from him is this:

and all of this please... 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/video/steven-sims-jr-has-career-day-two-touchdown-catches

Just now, Burgundy Yoda said:

Ah that makes sense. I haven't had a chance to listen to the Haskins presser yet. This DL has me incredibly excited. 

If Haskins can be effective against this D-line, it bodes really well going into the season for not only him, but our O-line.  Unfortunately we dont have the preseason, but practicing against our front 7 is about as good as you can get given the circumstances. 

4 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Sorry I guess I must have missed it. Which one of our OL is saying this?

Reading her thread it was in the midst of reporting on Haskins' presser, so I assume it was him and not an O-lineman. 

14 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Love, Sims as well. We have a lot of really fun pieces for Turners offense. No chain moving possession guys unless a TE or GG step up. Maybe Cam Sims, idk, but we have a bunch of give them the ball and watch them work types.

Was going to say the same thing regarding Sims.

Can you imagine the speed if you have Mclaurin and Sims outside, Gibson in the slot, and Love and Mckissic in a 2 back set?  I wouldn't do it often as you only give yourselves 5 down lineman, but talk about the ability to spread out a defense.