facemire1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Does anyone else think that the huge amount of hype TO is getting as a cowboy could end up hurting their team? The media is saying that by upgrading from keyshaun to TO the Cowboys will go from missing the playoffs to being Super Bowl contenders, which has to be boasting TO's already overinflated ego. Im thinking if he fails to live up to the hype he will blow up again. and I am pretty sure that the difference between keyshaun and TO isnt the difference between missing playoffs to SuperBowl. Could the media be helping us out everybody but the Cowboys here? They are helping set up a breakdown (that they will cover in depth for sure) and we will benefit. Whats your take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxpck Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I know it was talked about yesterday but the knock on the redskins is that they have all this talent hinging on an old QB who is brittle... Well I would say that Dallas is more in a predicament about that then we are...at least we have backups who have talent (campbell) and know the offense (collins).. The Cowboys could have gone out and gotten Jerry Rice and Steve Largent in their prime but they got a aging, brittle, immobile QB dishing out the rock....their rushing is suspect...I mean I think 4 weeks in Bledsoe breaks something.... I see your point about having extra pressure because the media hype.....thats why I think its a blessing that the media hates Dan snyder and the skins...no one wants or expects us to go anywhere....but we will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coooleeey Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I have so much anger built up inside towards the media and the Cowturds over the TO pickup. It makes absolutely no sense to me that they are even playoff contenders with one pickup. IT'S ONE F'N PLAYER!!! I can't wait for week two. Primetime in Dallas I hope we break TO's leg again and retire Bledsoe just to shut everyone up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I have so much anger built up inside towards the media and the Cowturds over the TO pickup.It makes absolutely no sense to me that they are even playoff contenders with one pickup. IT'S ONE F'N PLAYER!!! I can't wait for week two. Primetime in Dallas I hope we break TO's leg again and retire Bledsoe just to shut everyone up. Well in the media's defense Dallas was a playoff contender last year. Football is a funny game and teams rise out of the ashes every year and win big. Look at the Bears last year and to a lesser degree us. Nobody on the planet thought the Bears were worth a damn at this time last year. Now that being said an awful lot has to go right for Dallas to become a SB contender. Their O-line has to morph into a cohesive unit first and foremost. Their young D has to get much more consistent. Bledsoe has to stop taking sacks and turning the ball over. Julius Jones has to stop getting hurt and turn into a consistently productive back. A lot of ifs but it's possible. But....I like our chances much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinDC Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 For as much as Redskins' fans hate the media you sure listen to them a lot. The Dallas offensive line wasn't bad at all until Adams went down. Your line didn't look that great when your guard went down and a LT is much more significant than that. I keep on hearing 'linelineline' and while that may be the weakest unit, it really wasn't that bad until we got hit with injuries. We added depth to replace the revolving doors we had at the back-up position last year and Adams is said to already be at 100%. And also, Bledsoe may be immobile but he is not brittle. He doesn't get injured very often which is less than I can say for your QB. And we also have backup that know the system considering they've been in the same system for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOLhandsCOOLEY Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 For as much as Redskins' fans hate the media you sure listen to them a lot.The Dallas offensive line wasn't bad at all until Adams went down. Your line didn't look that great when your guard went down and a LT is much more significant than that. I keep on hearing 'linelineline' and while that may be the weakest unit, it really wasn't that bad until we got hit with injuries. We added depth to replace the revolving doors we had at the back-up position last year and Adams is said to already be at 100%. And also, Bledsoe may be immobile but he is not brittle. He doesn't get injured very often which is less than I can say for your QB. And we also have backup that know the system considering they've been in the same system for years. For years it has been said that the skins win the superbowl every off season, but I think this year we'll have to say that Girls have the distinct honor of this. You missed the playoffs, got swept by the skins, lose a pro bowl o'liner, add a receiver who is whiner not a winner, yet you're favored. We add two guys with superbowl rings. An offensive coach with a superbowl ring. Our Defensive coordinator used to coach drew bledslow, and knows his tendancies rather well. So enjoy it while you can broke back nation, because your team of whiners is in for a rude awakening!! PS TO has BO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 For as much as Redskins' fans hate the media you sure listen to them a lot.The Dallas offensive line wasn't bad at all until Adams went down. Your line didn't look that great when your guard went down and a LT is much more significant than that. I keep on hearing 'linelineline' and while that may be the weakest unit, it really wasn't that bad until we got hit with injuries. We added depth to replace the revolving doors we had at the back-up position last year and Adams is said to already be at 100%. And also, Bledsoe may be immobile but he is not brittle. He doesn't get injured very often which is less than I can say for your QB. And we also have backup that know the system considering they've been in the same system for years. Sorry, but this has been discussed ad infinitum. The dallas o-line gave up about as many sacks with Flozell as without him. Running game went no where either way. Flozell isn't the only thing that was missing from that O-line. For next year, you never know, but it doesn't seem that the improvements they made are really going to bolster that line into a top notch unit. The running games still iffy. After all, why change the offensive scheme to a 2 TE set if things are so great now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinDC Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Sorry, but this has been discussed ad infinitum. The dallas o-line gave up about as many sacks with Flozell as without him. R Care to back that up? In Adams 6 games he allowed 1 sack allowed per 90+ passing attempts. In Tucker's 10 games he allowed 1 sack per 25 passing attempts. Pretty big difference if you ask me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOLhandsCOOLEY Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Cowboys suck... face it and leave or we shall taunt you some more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEREAFTER Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Does anyone else think that the huge amount of hype TO is getting as a cowboy could end up hurting their team? The media is saying that by upgrading from keyshaun to TO the Cowboys will go from missing the playoffs to being Super Bowl contenders, which has to be boasting TO's already overinflated ego. Im thinking if he fails to live up to the hype he will blow up again. and I am pretty sure that the difference between keyshaun and TO isnt the difference between missing playoffs to SuperBowl. Could the media be helping us out everybody but the Cowboys here? They are helping set up a breakdown (that they will cover in depth for sure) and we will benefit. Whats your take? Facemire1 aren't you adding fuel to the fire by overhyping TO on this board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDFan5 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Sorry, but this has been discussed ad infinitum. The dallas o-line gave up about as many sacks with Flozell as without him. Running game went no where either way. Flozell isn't the only thing that was missing from that O-line.For next year, you never know, but it doesn't seem that the improvements they made are really going to bolster that line into a top notch unit. The running games still iffy. After all, why change the offensive scheme to a 2 TE set if things are so great now? In the first 6 games while Flozell was healthy Dallas, gave up a total of 10 sacks. After the injury in the final 10 games we gave up 39 sacks (I believe) So we went from about 1.6 sacks a game before Flo's injury to 3.9 sacks a game after. That is over double the sacks. I say his injury hurt alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitskins Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 In the first 6 games while Flozell was healthy Dallas, gave up a total of 10 sacks.After the injury in the final 10 games we gave up 39 sacks (I believe) So we went from about 1.6 sacks a game before Flo's injury to 3.9 sacks a game after. That is over double the sacks. I say his injury hurt alot. Dallas gave up 10 sacks in the first 5 games, not six. I'm not sure at what point in that sixth game vs. the Giants Adams went down, but you guys gave up 3 more sacks in that game. So it's either 10 sacks in 5 games or 13 sacks in 6. So with Adams completely healthy you averaged at least 2 sacks a game. That's decent if you can keep that up for an entire season. I think that's about where the Cowboys O-line is at right now, average to slightly below average. Not quite the all out abomination that some try to make it out to be, but I wouldn't quite call it "good" especially considering two new starters joining the unit, one of whom (Kozier) may be a sizable downgrade from his predecessor. O-line will still probably be a weakness for Dallas, but its not such a huge problem that it can be exploited at will. BP will try to mask the issue, the 2-TE set is already evidence of this. I think if their line stays healthy they'll be good enough, but another major injury could signal another disaster. However, not many O-lines in the NFL can sustain a major injury and manage to avoid huge repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDFan5 Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dallas gave up 10 sacks in the first 5 games, not six. I'm not sure at what point in that sixth game vs. the Giants Adams went down, but you guys gave up 3 more sacks in that game. So it's either 10 sacks in 5 games or 13 sacks in 6. You're correct, I was going off memory instead of recounting it was 10 sacks in 5 games for an average of 2 per game for the OLine. Adams was injured in the first Quarter So with Adams completely healthy you averaged at least 2 sacks a game. That's decent if you can keep that up for an entire season. I think that's about where the Cowboys O-line is at right now, average to slightly below average. Not quite the all out abomination that some try to make it out to be, but I wouldn't quite call it "good" especially considering two new starters joining the unit, one of whom (Kozier) may be a sizable downgrade from his predecessor. Now dont get me wrong I dont think the OLine is great by any means, I do believe it will be average and good enough to get by. As for Larry Allen, he is one of the best Guards to ever play the game but his time was over, he has been playing average to below average for a couple years now. We were unable to run screens or use the guard to pull simply because he couldnt move in space. The only way he dominated was if he could lock you up right off the line, otherwise he was nowhere to be found. O-line will still probably be a weakness for Dallas, but its not such a huge problem that it can be exploited at will.BP will try to mask the issue, the 2-TE set is already evidence of this. I think if their line stays healthy they'll be good enough, but another major injury could signal another disaster. However, not many O-lines in the NFL can sustain a major injury and manage to avoid huge repercussions. If we sustain one injury I think we will be ok, two major injuries would deplete us. Good post BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostic Hog Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 While I agree that the COWBOYS are overhyped right now, I don't believe TO is overhyped. He is, hands down, the best receiver in the league. I do think that this season he will be on his best behavior, as he was his first year in Philly. All he wants is to be paid. It's all about the $$$ for him, and as long as JJ pays him, he'll be fine. There will be little spats now and then - but TO is a great signing for Dallas and is the real deal. That being said, we sweep the Cowboys again this year HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 Does anyone else think that the huge amount of hype TO is getting as a cowboy could end up hurting their team? The media is saying that by upgrading from keyshaun to TO the Cowboys will go from missing the playoffs to being Super Bowl contenders, which has to be boasting TO's already overinflated ego. Im thinking if he fails to live up to the hype he will blow up again. and I am pretty sure that the difference between keyshaun and TO isnt the difference between missing playoffs to SuperBowl. Could the media be helping us out everybody but the Cowboys here? They are helping set up a breakdown (that they will cover in depth for sure) and we will benefit. Whats your take? No, there was a huge amount of hype when he went to the Eagles, but he still proved that he was the best receiver in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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