21dave Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I remember watching him at Hylton, he was a stud. I know he has had injury concerns (and character concerns) recently, but I would use a mid-round supplemental draft pick on him. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2387598 Virginia dismisses three potential starters on defenseBy Joe Schad ESPN.com Virginia Coach Al Groh dismissed linebacker Ahmad Brooks, defensive end Vince Redd and cornerback Tony Franklin from the team on Tuesday. "It's best for us and the players to move on from these circumstances," Groh said at a news conference in Charlottesville, one day before the Cavaliers begin spring practice. All three players were potential starters on defense, but Groh said the losses will not affect Virginia's outlook this season. Franklin, a senior who was expected to start at safety, was arrested for marijuana possession on Dec. 4. Franklin and Redd, a junior and possible starter at defensive end, were among the Cavaliers suspended for violating team rules last season. "It really doesn't change our prospectus when you consider two of the three players weren't even a part of what the team was able to do in Nashville [at the Music City Bowl]," Groh said. "It's essential internally that we have the discipline to do things the right way and not just chase talent for talent's sake. That's what we're doing." Brooks, a senior, led Virginia in tackles as a freshman and sophomore but played in only six games during an injury-riddled 2005. As a sophomore, Brooks was All-ACC and a Butkus Award finalist. But he ballooned to 270 pounds as he struggled to recover from knee and ankle injuries last year. In January, Brooks announced he would not enter the NFL draft. Now, transfering to a lower-division school or entering the NFL's supplemental draft are options. Brooks, once viewed as a first-round prospect, chose to return in large part, however, because his stock had slipped. "It is a privelege and not a right to wear a Cavaliers jersey and to represent our university and community," Groh said. "There are certain things that are vital and those things come into sharper focus and are multiplied when you're rebuilding, as we are. That's focus, commitment and dependability." Joe Schad is ESPN TV's national college football reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsLegacy44 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 What did they get sacked for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fede Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Can someone explain what the supplimental draft is? Although I have always been a skins fan as long as I can remember, I was never too interested in football until last year, my first year at the University of Maryland. Who usually picks in this draft? What is this draft all about? Why haven't I heard more about it. I watched the real draft last year, but don't remember the supplimental draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAXON Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Brooks is nasty, but weighin 270 is a little much. I really do wonder what he did, he had loads of potential after his first two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastlove Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I could see Cleveland coming in and solidifying their front seven. If that's the case I think they can win the AFC north.It would be a great pickup for the 49ers as well. I was hoping the Cowboys would do it, but with the addition of Akin Ayodele that seems beyond unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21dave Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 Can someone explain what the supplimental draft is? Although I have always been a skins fan as long as I can remember, I was never too interested in football until last year, my first year at the University of Maryland. Who usually picks in this draft? What is this draft all about? Why haven't I heard more about it. I watched the real draft last year, but don't remember the supplimental draft. There is a good breakdown here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6452668 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskns21 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Can someone explain what the supplimental draft is? Although I have always been a skins fan as long as I can remember, I was never too interested in football until last year, my first year at the University of Maryland. Who usually picks in this draft? What is this draft all about? Why haven't I heard more about it. I watched the real draft last year, but don't remember the supplimental draft. This might help, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6452668 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fede Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Thanks, sorry for my ignorance, but I love to learn. Is there anything more fun and interesting than football? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswin Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I think we'd better pass on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeast21 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Give up a 6th or 7th just for the potential of having an absolute stud who two years ago could have been a top 5 pick if he came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsStud5 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 failed drug test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 "There are certain things that are vital and those things come into sharper focus and are multiplied when you're rebuilding, as we are." If you're rebuilding then why would you say, "It really doesn't change our prospectus", especially when all three were projected starters? Gotta love Al "Miracle" Groh. :doh1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santanaistheman Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 He's a first round talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 thats not a gibbs type player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordash Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 He is really good. Hopefully Joe will have a chance to make a call on this kid's character because he might have incredible value. His dad Perry played 7 seasons with the skins including a couple years under gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsSuperBowl21 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Hylton High school is 2 miles from my house...he won the dunk contest a few years back and their football team would own our school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsDukes Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 From having friends that work closely with the UVA football players, I can tell you guys this is not a player we want on the Skins. He is a tremendous talent, but he is a team cancer. Considering his off the field issues, and the fact that many feel his knee is only going to get worse over time this is a definite "no way"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacky McSlackAss Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 if he lost some weight i definitely think we should consider him. but definietly not at 270. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 yeah i thought this guy was going to be a big time pro prospect but after all this and gaining all this weight i dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsDukes Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Also, for the record, there are numerous reports floating around in the area that he is actually considerably bigger than even 270 now. I've even heard some in the know mention he might be as big as 290! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 At this point I think his best bet is trying a lower division school and getting a fresh start. I would think there are a few Division I-AA schools that would love to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 At this point I think his best bet is trying a lower division school and getting a fresh start. I would think there are a few Division I-AA schools that would love to have him. Like the William and Mary Tribe for example...I'm sure we wouldn't be adverse to Ahmad dominating people for a season. As for the supplemental draft if he enters, I think the highest price I would pay is a 5th. He is a beast when healthy and motivated, but for someone to throw away that kind of potential, there must be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsDukes Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Like the William and Mary Tribe for example...I'm sure we wouldn't be adverse to Ahmad dominating people for a season.As for the supplemental draft if he enters, I can't imagine anyone advocating giving up our 2nd round pick for Brooks. So you want us to get him with the 5th, at best? I feel like someone will take a shot on him in the 4th or with an earlier 5th, but I could be off. The Tribe won't touch Brooks, trust me. No way Lay**** lets Brooks come to Williamsburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDefense Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Character issues and Joe Gibbs do not go together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 The Tribe won't touch Brooks, trust me. No way Lay**** lets Brooks come to Williamsburg. Yeah, it doesn't seem likely. As long as Mickey doesn't bring him in to wear that damn purple and gold, I'll be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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