6 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

I'm convinced if some of you guys were Pats fans in 2000 you'd say "yeah that Tom Brady did all right but he was the 199th pick, he could definitely be our backup but he's not the answer." lol 

Without checking post history, I feel like some of these people are also the ones willing to give Haskins endless chances and excuses. Haskins never showed anything close to what Taylor did last night, but people wanted to give him 16 games, more Oline help, etc. When you see it you recognize it. Even his teammates see it. 

Just now, -JB- said:

Ain’t no emotion involved.  The only logic is to watch what is in front of you and not try to outthink yourself with your past miseries.  

Agreed wholeheartedly. The only doubt people should have is the sustainability of his tough as nails play. That performance alone makes him my favorite Redskins after only Sean Taylor. Call me insane I don’t care. I have faith in this kid. Build the D, improve his weapons, and let’s rock.

1 hour ago, JSSkinz said:

Nobody does it with more excitement than Latin commentators.

 

 

 I came here to post this. Heiny is the future.

4 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

The main reason I don't want Heinicke to start, is because if he goes down then it's definitely over. 

 

If Smith starts the game and establishes the game, then Heinicke starts the second half it'll be a spark we will probably need and they won't be as prepared.

This is what I expect, but the change probably needs to happen before the second half.  

We will need a lights out game from the D and a big special teams play.  (Hopefully the refs let them play and we don't get backbreaking holding calls that will ultimately kill our drives, or ticky-tack roughing calls for Tom.)

Taylor gives us the best chance to win for sure.

10 hours ago, TrancesWithWolves said:

I see Chase being the guy to do something like this Saturday night...

 

 

 

 

I love how Sean $&@%#* up their Olineman before the fumble recovery. He was always smacking people

This looks great with the striped socks.  What an amazing game. I watched it in Joe Gibbs’ old house.

Gold pants with white tops looks fire. Way better than burgundy on burgundy. 
 

burgundy on gold

white on gold

white on white

Any other stinks

I don’t want Trask. Doesn’t seem very bright based off interviews I have watched. 

Forget who told me Zach wouldn’t be a top 5 pick late last week. After tonight he is almost certainly the second pick in the draft. Dudes a baller. 

11 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

 

But we don't know that. Fans thought Winston would be that guy, then Marriotta, Mitch, etc. The list goes on forever.

Well I know my opinion is dog (you know what) compared to professional scouts and even some of you who do a great job breaking down prospects, but I never had any faith in Winston, and wasn't very high on Mariotta or Mitch (although Mitch is playing better football right now.)  I just want to go on record with the Zach train so I can look back and say 'told you so.'

4 minutes ago, skeenzfan said:

Depends what winning you are referring to. If you are happy with a 8-8 sort of season with the offense holding you back then fine otherwise you have to find at least a top 10ish QB to have any chance of being a consistent winning team. The whole sitting for 1 year never made sense to me. The rookie QB wouldn't get any first team reps, wouldn't get used to the speed of the game and in Haskins case wouldn't have the work ethic to dedicate to preparing himself. Then all of a sudden the starter goes out because of injury and you have an unprepared rookie QB that is forced to start. Why wait an additional year to find out that he can't play and then start over again? 

Agreed.  I love Alex and what he has done for this team, but before he got here the Chiefs may have started their run a season earlier had they played Mahomes all year or at least the end of the year.

Cam is not coming here.

8 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

In a perfect world I share your opinion. I would much prefer they find their QB in the draft and just have that guy for a decade. But as we all know drafting a QB does not work that way, they are much more likely to give up that first and a 2nd and a 5th, move up, and have that guy not work out. So while I'm not promoting the idea I'm not totally against the idea of trading for Matt Stafford (if he is even available) because that sounds like the safest move of them all.

I agree Stafford would be the safest move, but Zach Wilson is the real deal.  Giving up multiple firsts (2021, 2022) would be worth it.  It probably takes more than that, though.

@KDawg.  You can get Stafford and retool.  It just depends on the cost.  I am not advocating giving up a first.  The best bet would be to improve the QB position this offseason as well as draft someone to develop.  Counting on Kyle and Alex to be healthy for 16 games and be above average is a risk.

Also - what are the chances we build a dynasty?  Slim.  Everyone wants a dynasty, but if you can compete next year for a SuperBowl, you go for it.

2 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

The fantasy-football mindset here of just plugging and playing a guy because his stats are better are disappointing. No doubt Stafford is a better QB than Smith but does he give the team a better chance of winning the Super Bowl? Who’s to say?

Yes, he does.  But we should totally draft a kid this year, too.  Stafford, Allen, Rookie. (Assuming Alex retires.)  If Alex wants to stay, I assume Stafford is off the table.  But we will still draft a QB, and we should.

Stafford is a surefire top 15 QB today (PFF has him at 13.)  Alex is one of the bottom starters in the league (PFF has him at 30, Haskins is 39 for reference.)  You move from a bottom half starter to an upper half starter, you significantly improve the team.  More points.  More leads being protected.  More of a chance for the defense to attack.  Synergy baby.  Stafford makes so much sense.  I just don't think the Lions get rid of him.  But we will see.

21 minutes ago, TheShredder said:

No, his draft stock and Heisman talk just deflated with his poor performance in the NY6 Bowl. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/byu-qb-zach-wilson-s-heisman-buzz-went-kaput-in-loss-to-coastal-carolina-but-it-was-fun-while-it-lasted/ar-BB1bNiVD

BYU QB Zach Wilson’s Heisman buzz went kaput in loss to Coastal Carolina, but it was fun while it lasted.

I watched the game, did you? Even with the loss, you can see he has the skillset needed to make it at the next level.  We have 5 months between now and the draft.  Once workouts, interviews, etc. have taken place, he's going to fly up the boards.  It happens with prospects all the time.

(Also, that game was not a bowl game.)

15 minutes ago, TheShredder said:

If they don't go All-in with Alex Smith in 2021 then I'd expect them to make the QB position a competition with Allen, Haskins, and someone like Tyrod Taylor.  In a 3-way competition I'd think Tyrod would win and they could do just about anything with Haskins.

I wouldn't mind Tyrod being brought in, but Haskins won't be here.

11 minutes ago, TheShredder said:

I view Wilson as a more likely target as they could possibly get him without breaking the draft bank.  He could fall a bit and they'd be able to trade conservatively to get him onboard.  He'd be a Josh Allen type guy who'd need a couple of years to put it together.  That's in the realm of possibilities for sure.

Wilson will be a top 10 if not top 5 pick.  Not sure how much it would take to trade with say, the Bengals, to get in position to grab him, but I am totally onboard with it.

25 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Everything being equal, I 'd rather go for broke and shoot for Fields or Wilson.  If the draft ends up with Cincy at 3 and SD at 4, I think the odds are good that one of those teams will auction their pick and some team is trading up for one of those QBs.  I'd bet that once the season is over, there will be plenty of rumors about us moving up to grab one of them.  Will see. 

I don't want any part of Fields.  Big10 QBs scare me.  He seems to have a clean pocket and open guys every play.  I'm fully in on Zach.

14 minutes ago, jnhutchi3 said:

 

I think Haskins has the physical tools to be a good QB, but he doesn't have the confidence to win a big game against a team like Pittsburgh or Seattle.  I think Smith is the only QB Washington has right now that is capable of winning big games and pulling off upsets.  

I don't get these physical tools comments.  Yes Haskins is big, he can stand and take a hit, and he can throw the ball hard/far.  But he can't PASS.  That's just a natural gift and he can not do it. 

Neither Haskins or Cam are on this roster next year.  Like many have said, Alex is an uncertainty.  But even if he wants to be here, we still need to upgrade. 

If Kyle wasn't hurt, I am convinced we would have rolled into the draft without a FA signing at QB.  But if Alex retires, due to Kyle's injury, we make a move for another Vet.  The only ones that truly upgrade our situation are probably Stafford (without giving up major assets) and Phillip.  But I think they go mid-level QB, say Fitz, and then draft someone high.  At least, that would be my preference.

3 minutes ago, Kelvin Bryant said:

Kyle Allen is the best QB currently on the roster. Change my mind.

 

Allen: Passing Rating 99.3 TDs: 4 INTs: 1

Haskins: Passing Rating 79.4 TDs: 4 INTs: 3

Smith: Passing Rating 79.0 TDs: 4 INTs: 6

Agreed.  And if he wasn't injured, we wouldn't have had as much pressure to upgrade in FA.  But we will sign/trade for someone else.  I am certain, though, Cam isn't going to be that guy.  Stafford would really put us over the top IMO.  Then draft someone to sit behind he and Kyle (this is all assuming Alex isn't back.)

Keep Allen, Payne, Ion and Settle as well as the ends.  Keep drafting aggressive athletes like Curl to play behind that group.  Cycle those players like the Panthers did.  I wonder how much Peterson or Sherman would be this offseason?  Would either be good with a 1 year deal?

4 hours ago, JSSkinz said:

For those who believe Collins can play LB do you think he can do what KPP does at the 8 second mark of this cut up? 

 

 

No.  I suggested Landon at LB a while back, but his biggest flaws before his injury was missed tackles and coverage of TEs and RBs.  He seems cooked at this point.  We need a true ILB moving forward.  Landon can play the Hudson role next year.  I am hoping Hudson can take that WILL spot.

The guy is 20, so it will be an ongoing process as far as his maturity, especially after you hand him more money than he has ever seen.

I think Doug and RR are up to the task of helping to groom the young man into a professional you can count on.  And if not, it was worth the gamble.

I predict he will be the starting LT day one, outperforming Moses even.

Things are about to get much worse.  Earliest peak projection is May or June.  

Nova > Sweat