Epochalypse

2 minutes ago, Bang said:

Holy ****, this former judge does realize 2024 is only a year and a half away, right? Kind of pointless to still be in the middle of the warning when the election happens.
Spit it out, man!

 

~Dang!

He speaks like someone who clearly considers every word that comes out of his mouth.

If it helps, compare him to Trump who just spouts whatever mush comes to his brain without reservation and perhaps it is a bit less painful.  A bit.

3 minutes ago, Burgold said:

Giving credit where it's due, at least he didn't blame January 6 on Hunter Biden.

Can't put all the owning out there at once, gotta keep some in reserve or the lib triggering high fades.

3 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

You really need to get a grip.    I never said "Dems".  I mentioned Pelosi because she's the speaker and Bowser because She's the Mayor.    If you want to add Trump, Pence, McCarthy, go ahead.

 

 

I think I hear your mom calling you upstairs for supper. Best zip up before you go.

Here I'll even add a smiley face for you. 🙂

2 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

I've acknowledged that she doesn't the authority.    Is she not allowed to ask or suggest?    I'm not trolling.    

 

The idea that this never happened before and they didn't think it would get this bad is a lame argument.

 

They knew thousands of people would be there.  And if you want to blame Trump for getting people riled up, go ahead.

 

Bottom line - The security was greatly lacking and most people don't seem to care why or don't want to ask the questions because they are so obsessed with Trump.

In summation, your argument is that Jan 6 is the Dems' fault because they should have prepared more for an unprecedented attack on the Capitol, so the Republicans actually conducting the insurrection had no choice but to attack.

This is literally the sexual assault/domestic abuse argument..."look what you made me do"

I mean, how much more vile can you get?

11 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

Yo, I read the link.   You're playing with semantics.    Pelosi is the speaker of the house.   Did she go to the sargeant of arms or whomever and request help prior to 1/6?

 

I'm not saying she had the authority to call up the National Guard herself.   

 

Did anyone do anything to prepare?   

 

 

As I recall 50% of the Capitol Police force was positioned around the Capitol in anticipation of making it a harder target.  As was mentioned previously, they had indications that something was brewing but underestimated how violent the Trumpers would get.  You know, after Trump specifically riled them up that day.

Again, you are glossing over the fact that the additional support would have come from outside, particularly from Trump and his administration.  If it was so clear that there was a threat, why did Trump not have that National Guard support ready and in place?  Unless he wanted the election results overturned?  You can't answer that, can you?

Your willful avoidance of plot holes and contradictions in your spoutings is obvious.

As the commission made clear today, Trump was trying to sell the election fraud all the way back in April 2020.  They also played his speeches from August and September with the same message.

"If I don't win, it's because the election was rigged/stolen/fraudulent etc."

1 minute ago, Llevron said:

Read the link yo. Literally all the answers to your questions so far are in the link someone already provided you. They tell you the structure of the Capital police. 
 

Also the DC police do not have the resources to stop patrolling the city for a day. That’s asking too much. It’s almost like you would need the….National Guard or something. 
 

You clearly haven’t thought out your questions, though. Even a simple google search would give you the answers you are looking for. I’m starting to think this Pelosi/Bowser question is a real good litmus test for if people are even worth talking to. I’m not going to keep this back and forth up  if you won’t even read the links provided. There is no point. You can’t say we didn’t try and have a civil convo with you either and that was really my entire goal. 

To be fair we were making the assumption he knows how to read.

2 minutes ago, airborneskins said:

 

This is NOT physical security.  These are words from a defensive coordinator in the National Football League who honestly should not even have opened his mouth about things that he does not fully understand.

 

I drive past the capital nearly every day, and my question remains, What, from a physical security standpoint, have they done since 1/6/21?  To me, this is what they should be focusing on (How to prevent is from happening again).  To be fair, I do not work for the capital, or the capital police, and do not know what they have in the works, but I can tell you that not much has changed on the physical security aspect.

To your point, and as someone who works within the Pentagon, knowing a problem exists and securing approval and funding to make necessary changes are two different things.

When a large percentage of people believe nothing happened or are afraid that admitting it happened makes them look bad, it becomes even more difficult.

An important step in improving the security is to ensure that there are repercussions if it is attempted again and convicting those who contributed to it happening in the first place.

1 minute ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

Bring that guy back.  I could use some backup.

Elementary school lets out soon, so you may be in luck.

1 minute ago, Llevron said:

No because it’s not their job. There is a entirely federally funded position that is in charge of that. 
 

You could have figured that out yourself honestly. It’s a silly line of questions lol 

I think it's clear that no, he could not have figured that out himself.

At this point FLSkinz83 is reduced to quips and smiley faces.

We may have broken him.  He'll likely need to watch a whole week of OAN to reprogram and come back with such hard hitting commentary like "Why aren't we looking into Jewish space lasers and raking our forests?"

You know just asking questions...🙂

2 minutes ago, airborneskins said:

What have the Capital Police done from a physical security standpoint to stop this from happening again?  

To start they have testified at the 1/6 commission to convict those who participated in the violence or claim it never happened/was just a "dust-up"

6 hours ago, FLSkinz83 said:

I'm not sure why you're all jumping on me.   I think I said from the beginning the Trump is full of **** and I don't want him running.

 

I'm just asking for all the facts of 1/6.

 

I wish I was here for the Mueller testimony and the Steele Dossier, because I know all of you called that out as BS.

Actually this was your first post in this round of discussion...

"I just find it interesting that when Dems win, the election was fair, the most secure ever, etc., but when they lose it's voter suppression, etc...." FLSkinz83

Which is not "just asking for all the facts"

You also very clearly pointed out that you love that Trump triggers liberals, which again is not "just asking for all the facts".  Then complain about people jumping on you, when it's clear getting people to jump on you feeds your need to "trigger liberals".

You made it clear you think the commission which is outlining all the facts is one-sided, which despite your vacuous discourse does in no way mean it is not composed entirely of facts.

And now we've moved to some more MAGA talking point BINGO card submissions.  Which again tries to take the discussion away from "all the facts of 1/6".

Sadly, I bet somehow you've convinced yourself you're owning us because we responded.  If that brings fulfillment to your life, congratulations I guess.

Just now, FLSkinz83 said:

 

I can't believe you made me look at CNN.  Shame on you

 

 

It's amazing what you learn when you look beyond what your handlers spoonfeed you as prescribed 'information".

3 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

Decades   

Might I recommend that your discourse herein presents a strong argument for reimbursement through the Biden administration's effort to reimburse students who were swindled for subpar educations.

1 minute ago, FLSkinz83 said:

Being around you truth tellers and fact finders has been nice distraction from the McLaurin contract talk.

It must be so different from the lies and conspiracies you normally surround yourself with

4 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said:

Didn't Pelosi and Bowser know that there would be a protest in advance of 1/6?    Where was the security?

 

I'm American.  left there when I was 4.  Many years ago. 

But before you said you were Ukrainian, now you're American.

And by your posts, I take it many years ago is about two or three right?

2 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said:

Didn't Pelosi and Bowser know that there would be a protest in advance of 1/6?    Where was the security?

I feel like at this point we are just playing MAGA talking point Bingo and you're looking to fill your card without addressing anything we've already called you on.

5 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

I'm Ukrainian

I'm American, why are you voting in our elections?  Go back to your own country!

Did I say that right?

1 minute ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

They are politicians.  They all lie.  As Biden would say....."C'mon man"

Well if you have such a poor opinion of our political structure, may I recommend moving to another nation, such as Russia.  I mean Trump is sure Putin was telling him the truth over our intelligence community.

These exploratory investigation commissions would never happen there.

8 hours ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

I'm not sure what you mean?  I know they are full of ****.  No need for them to lie to me.   Again, I don't want Trump running again

DeSantis is a Republican politician.  It can be inferred from your statement here that you know he is lying to you even if there is no need to.  And yet he is your choice for President.

Welcome to logic in Trumpworld. Where they want to be clear they don't support Trump. But want to make sure rabid Trump supporters who don't actually like Trump should be heard on the commission investigating Trump so they can lie about Trump.

1 minute ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

I don't think any Republican politician likes Trump.   Just look at the flip flopping McCarthy was doing after 1/6.   They are faking it because he's still popular with Republican voters.

If Bill Barr was running for Congress or Senate, he wouldn't be saying any of this stuff.

Ah, got it.  Because people like you exist, Republican politicians have to lie about their feelings to cater to the crazies.

Can we offer you to the commission for this insightful commentary?

4 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

Most, if not all of the Republicans are anti Trump.   I should have been more clear on what I meant regarding "both sides".....I'm talking about 1/6 specifically.   

So all the people who Trump hired and worked for Trump are anti-Trump. Including his daughter.

Or perhaps after having worked for him and saw what he was trying to do BECAME anti-Trump.

I'll let you enlighten us on your thoughts on that phenomenon.

Just now, FLSkinz83 said:

I feel like I've walked into the DNC convention.    You guys are tough.   You chased away all the right wingers?    

I'm sure it feels that way to enter a place that puts some importance on facts as a Trumper.

You're free to feel triggered.

1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

No, no, no - they want Trump to run again, he's probably the only candidate they can beat.  

If Trump is not convicted, him running is my next want, because there is no way he can win a general election at this point.

A moldy potato would beat him.

Just now, Captain Wiggles said:

So today's hearing was only like two hours? First one was shorter than that. Who drew up this schedule?

Have you assessed the attention span of today's society?

1 minute ago, FLSkinz83 said:

 

Banter aside,  I don't want Trump running again.    But I'd like to see a real hearing; which means both sides represented.   If that means questions from Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz; then so be it.

 Ah so the other side is pedophiles and pedophiles supporters.

Glad that is now clear.