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1 minute ago, Florgon79 said:

I hate hate hate when they return it from five yards in the end zone. So dumb.

Kid just trying to do something flashy to make the team or put on tape.  Not very smart when it doesn’t work.

3 minutes ago, SkinsGuy said:

Even though the TV listings say the NFLN will be showing this game, here in Richmond VA., they are showing the Steelers/Eagles game.

 

Blackout rule?

You’re really not missing much.  We are now making Mac Jones look like Tom Brady.

OLine clearly hasn’t gelled quite yet.  Fitz has very little time and is throwing from his back foot due to lack of time.  Hopefully time and practice will help.

Definitely not looking like a top 5 defense.  Still can’t cover a screen.  Where are the LBs?
 

I understand last year you couldn’t trust the offense to do anything so they had to try and pick it up and score, but this year we might have some offense.  Fall on the darn ball.

As long as Fitz is healthy he will be the starter.  He is getting older and making it through the entire season might be too much to ask, but he looks pretty sturdy so I give him pretty good odds.  Taylor, who reminds me in style as a young Fitz, can step in without changing anything.  Neither is are franchise QB, that quest starts again next year.

It’s nice to see out players actually wanting to stay with the WFT.  A foundation piece of our defense, leader in the locker room, and still in his prime.  Pretty big #s but it won’t stop signing a couple more of our guys.  See what happens when you don’t lock all your cap space chasing over priced free agents.  Great news.

Keep in mind these statistics are based on every body in camp.  Half those guys won’t be on the roster week one.

2 hours ago, bakedtater1 said:

Hi..hows it going?

Have you got vaccinated?

Not that it is particularly relevant to this conversation because I don’t have teammates depending on me, but I got my two shots several months ago at the earliest possible date.  Two Pfizer shots, zero issues.   I also get my flu shot annually.  

Getting the vaccine is an indivisible decision until it starts hurting the team.  One positive test with contact tracing could cause a forfeit easily (I.e NC State at the College World Series).  I suspect when it starts affecting pay checks players will have a change of heart concerning the vaccines.  Maybe they are all just waiting to just prior to the season to gather all possible information.

Barring injury, Fitz is the starting QB.  His experience and temperament are what the young guys need.  His aggressiveness to get the ball down field excites everybody.  TH is the ideal back-up this year because his style is so similar.  I believe TH will keep ready and perform well if the opportunity arises.  If he can stay healthy he could hang around for a while.  I like TH, but he isn’t the franchise QB the team is looking for.

I think TH will always look good in shorts and no contact.  He is a smart and confident young man and he knows the offense.  His problem has always been durability.  In both chances to play before he got to the WFT he played well until he got hurt.  He got hurt in the first game he played in Washington, but was able to play hurt in the playoff game.  He’s not a very big guy and puts everything he’s got into every game, not an equation for longevity.

His style makes him the perfect backup to Fitz this year; I see similarities in their styles.  Fitz will be the starter as long as he is physically able, but I am confident TH could fill in if required.  I’m not sure where Allen fits into the scheme, but I am sure that the WFT is still looking for there franchise QB.

Watson apparently isn’t a model citizen when getting a massage, but it is noteworthy to me there have been Zero criminal allegations.  I’m not sure, because of his talent, that he is as toxic as many think.  Accusers have now accused NFL investigators of bias and are not cooperating with the investigation.  He has stated he won’t play for Houston so this has some time to resolve itself.  Some team is going to get a franchise QB at a discounted price, but it will not be the WFT.

Regarding Scherff I think the next month will tell the tale.  If he plays this year on the tag I believe it will be his last year with the WFT.   If he really wants to stay he will sign a longer term contract.  He’s a good football player with some injury issues.  It will cost him this year but he can get more guaranteed.   Somebody will surely pay him next year, but nothing near the tag money.  If it all about money, get your tag money this year and sign your multi year deal next year somewhere else.
 

I admit I don’t know much about Bobby McCain and I only saw him play against the WFT, but from the videos and highlight clips I watched he clearly looks (at least to me) as a safety, doesn’t move like a slot corner.  He doesn’t look super fast, but he has very good instincts and reacts very well.  He looked strong near the line blitzing and as a single deep safety.  Doesn’t appear to shy away from contact and always seems to be near the ball.

It’s interesting that we signed two team Captains from the Dolphins, true to RR’s stated objectives.  It’s only the first day of rookie camp but I really like the folks we are bringing to camp.

My two cents worth

Aaron Rodgers is really good and would make the WFT better for a couple years.  He’s arrogant and is now pouting.  His game to me is one that could drop off quickly in the next couple years and I just wouldn’t mortgage the future for him.  If a deal could be worked that didn’t cost the next three 1st round picks it’s worth looking at.  Maybe a trade for Scherff and a couple picks.  Word seems to be he wants to head to the other coast so I don’t think this is happening.

Deshaun Watson is a little more interesting.  I don’t know the legal implications of his civil suits and I expect the NFL will suspend him for a couple games whenever he suits up again.  I know there have been no criminal charges and the burden of proof in civil cases is much less; he will pay and this will get settled.  He is a very good football player with a bunch of years left and would certainly make the WFT better for several years to come.  I don’t see any way Coach Ron is even considering this move; goes against the character he is seeking.  I am very confident this isn’t happening.

In conclusion, we will still be looking for our next franchise QB going into next years draft and that’s Ok.

Evaluating and labeling draftees before they have played down in the nfl seems like a sincere waste of time and energy.  Davis is almost assuredly a starting linebacker on a pretty good defense so how could he possibly be “a reach”.  Let’s grade our draft after the season and we’ll have a much better idea of how we did.  Heck, people on this very board are already talking about an undrafted free agent being the next Barry Sanders.  Time will tell, but on paper I’m very satisfied with our draft and off-season thus far.

We have two bad contracts right now, Scherff and Collins.  Scherff could still be resolved with a long term contract this year, Collins is gone next year.  We should be in pretty good shape going into next year unless we get stupid with either of our Monday visitors (which I do not suspect will happen).  It’s nice to like a professional football team that actually acts like a professional football team.

With the circus that we have had in PR over the last few years, I can live with someone who can consistently catch the ball.  Any yards after a successful catch is just gravy.

I would be very surprised if the San Francisco 49ers take anyone other than Justin Fields.  Mac Jones has jumped from a second round pick to the third QB off the board without taking a single snap in pads.  It’s very easy to understand the miserable success rate with first round QB’s in the draft.  This bull about Mac Jones fitting a system better is nuts; if you draft that way you deserve the outcome.  You have to draft the best available and adjust your system.

Any of these guys might be great if they end up in the right situation and circumstances or they might be the next (inset your favorite failed QBs- I’ll go with Johnny Manziel).  I also think that Stills and Mond might end up better than all of them.

I would really like the WFT to pick up Stills or Mond in the second or third to sit behind Fitzpatrick for a year.  Both bring a different set of intangibles and I think they have a opportunity to be very good.  WFT is in a pretty good situation to develop one of those guys without the pressure of playing their first rounder before they are ready.  I am excited about the opportunity in this draft.

If we draft a QB, Allen costs next to nothing to cut.  It would cost a bit more to cut Taylor.  If we pick up stills or Mond in the first three rounds, Allen either goes to IL or is cut.

Scherff was drafted way to high to be our next RT to bookend with Trent Williams.  He wasn’t up to the task, so out of necessity he was moved to guard.  Now he still wants to be paid like a RT.  I acknowledge he has been a very good OG when he was on the field, but no OG is worth what it has been reported he wants.  For $10m a year he could easily be replaced with an acceptable drop of in talent.  If he is just playing this to maximize tag money this year and signs a reasonable contract next year more power to him, but if he thinks he is truly worth a tag money contract he’s going to get smacked back down to reality next year.  Let’s see how many games he plays this year.

Does anyone have an update on R. Foster?  I understand he is a free agent, but the question is about his health.  Is he close to be ready to be on the field again?  We have a glaring need at the position that he plays it sure would be nice if that could have worked.

Fitzpatrick is Heinicke in 15 years if Heinicke is lucky.  Both smart guys, read the field well, play a bit on the edge, won’t wow you with their physical ability and like to push the ball down the field.  If Heinicke can learn from Fitz and get a bit stronger to increase his durability he has a chance to be in the league for beyond his current 2 year contract, but like Fitz, he isn’t the type of QB you build your team around.

I like TH and hope he can stay upright and become the man, but I wouldn’t bet the farm it.  Depending on how the draft plays out he might not ever start another game for the WFT.

10 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:

 

Negative, un-tradable and untouchable ATM

 

This coming from the guy who wanted to go after him when I saw an angle in-season.

 

No self respecting org would dare bring in that kind of scandal. You would risk losing so many sponsors its not even funny. Even to get a cheap franchise QB.

 

You honestly need to prepare that Watson wont be available to play at all for the near and long term future (due to suspensions) which is why Hou all of a sudden needs to load up on QBs

 

That being said you cant just assume guilt, no matter how bad it looks, and If you need a long term fix at QB, you should still be quietly eyeballing this situation b/c even if this does blow over, Watson's stock has taken a megaton hit. A trade won't happen until this whole thing is done and I cant see that happening any time soon tho.

 

Honestly the more plausible scenario, if this thing get worse, I'd start looking to see if Hou cuts bait and just releases him. If there is any certifiable truths to some of the more serious of these allegations, you cant have him linked to your org. If they can prove these things happened, he wont get traded, he will get virtually kicked from the NFL.

 

 

 

This is solely civil court, nothing criminal alleged thus far.  This is all about money.  Deshaun has denied any wrongdoing and I don’t think this will deter any # of teams trading for Watson.  There are a bunch of guys on NFL teams today that are convicted criminals.  Watson has plenty of cash to pay these woman whose moral outrage can be satisfied with cash.  I doubt when everything is said and done he even gets suspended.  I don’t think Ron would be interested just because of the optics and the culture he is trying to install.  I think the Jets or the Dolphins would trade for him tomorrow.