Est.1974

4 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

I am not convinced that Jamin Davis makes this roster.

Same, could see him getting shipped out for a late day 3 pick towards the end of the summer. Heck, maybe we find an OT on a team needing LB help.

6 hours ago, Dah-Dee said:

 

"Meaning, of course, that there's still a chance, even a better chance now, that Chicago will 'trade down' with us, Caleb for Jayden."

 

You can't fool us, we know what you're thinking!  😋

That ship has sailed. I’m now at peace with our QB situation.

6 minutes ago, London Kev said:

 

Lol, it is in alphabetical order (by position as listed on the official site), it looked better than ordering it by name.

 

Is Lucas definitely still on the team? He isn't listed on Commanders.com.

 

Agree that we will still bring in a vet or two.

Yeah Lucas got a one year low cost deal. 

13 minutes ago, London Kev said:

I was looking at the Oline to try to determine a rough depth chart and found a few differences in player positions listed on the official site (Commanders.com), ESPN.com and NFL.com, so I thought I'd share.

 

 

A few things to note; NFL.com is well behind the times, Cornelius Lucas isn't even listed on the official site and I'm still worried about the quality of the Oline.

I’m amazed your OCD didn’t make you list that in alphabetical order…….

I reckon Coleman is viewed as our LT. Maybe Lucas starts the season. Maybe we bring in a vet for a season. But after that, Coleman was drafted for that job. I’m more concerned at RT now. 
 

I also think there will be players available that we can get to upgrade before week 1.

I think every question about his character has been answered. And his work ethic.

1-4 JJ McCarthy QB………actual 10

4-106 Roger Rosengarten OL………actual 62

4-108 Decamerion Richardson DB……….actual 112

4-113 Jamari Thrash WR…….actual 156

6-180 Joshua Karty K………actual 209

Only 4 picks out on Decamerion Richardson being my ‘best’ pick, especially on a bit of a sleeper choice.

Jax cut Zay Jones after drafting Brian Thomas.

Interestingly SF wanted a first rounder plus Zay Jones off Jax for Aiyuk. 

14. Will Johnson*, CB, Michigan 

Johnson (6-2, 202) battled injuries last season, but he is a game-breaking cornerback. The interception against Ohio State last season was a game-changer, and he has seven interceptions the last two seasons. Quarterbacks had a 44.7% completion percentage when targeting Johnson, and he held his own against Marvin Harrison Jr. and Rome Odunze. Michigan's last three first-round defensive backs were Charles Woodson (1998), Leon Hall (2007) and Jabrill Peppers (2017). Johnson will join that impressive group. 

6 minutes ago, xxprodigyxx said:

iirc he moved to the slot after Higgins and chase were drafted...but I might be misremembering. was just wondering if he offered a similar skill set without having to give up draft capital (I never studied him closely, I just always thought he was a good #2). anything higher than a 3rd for Aiyuk with his upcoming contract demands makes me hesitant.

Just been reading there that the Steelers are in on him. A few other unnamed teams too. Excellent receiver. I mentioned. Gallup yesterday. There are several options at varying costs.

Point being for me, I want us to keep the foot down. Another WR would be a strong move IMO. Much like OT, less so now at CB for me. 

I would have to say that everything about Daniels post draft has been great. I reckon he’s come across really well. Seems like a real pro, hard worker, committed. Popular figure. Peters and Quinn completely sold on him.

Very positive.

18 minutes ago, xxprodigyxx said:

I know there is a clear difference but how does Tyler Boyd compare to Aiyuk in terms of skill set?

I think from memory Boyd is a slot receiver, and that’s really what we’ve just drafted.

4 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Why exactly?

 

Justin Jefferson on the other hand, that’s a WR I’d be willing to give up assets and set contract records for.

 

Aiyuk, if we wanted him so bad, could wait a season and not give up anything but $.

Aiyuk is a stud who won’t hit free agency.

We’ve gone all in, 20+ free agents, drafted a franchise QB, nailed the draft, on paper for now, we have a need for another quality WR, still rank 2nd in available cap space, have 100mil+ in space next year, Aiyuk and Daniels have a great relationship. 
 

No brainer.

13 minutes ago, MrJL said:

Only if LT is addressed  first. Because the assets needed to get Aiyuk or a hypothetical LT could be the  same. And in that case tackle first 

I think we’ve drafted Coleman as our LT of the future. Perhaps we pick up a vet OT on a one year deal for the interim.

21 minutes ago, DogofWar1 said:

 

Given it's a one year rental and then you gotta pay big money I'd offer a 3rd maximum.

I’d be tempted to offer a second for him. I’d happily give him big money too.

49 minutes ago, Fan since a Fetus said:

I’m not looking for Aiyuk until this season is over and he’s a free agent. 

I don’t see him hitting free agency 

1 hour ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

I don’t want to pay Aiyuk a top of market LTD, much less give up an asset for the ability to do so.  Hard pass.

Seems like the ideal time to do exactly that IMO

1 minute ago, Command The 414 said:

Totally agree…. It amazes me that ppl think just adding another WR will solve all our issues… we just drafted a rookie QB who should in all honesty start the season as the starter so he’s already going to be a deer in headlights so why not get him another asset to help protect him? 

Or both ?

Anyway…what’s would you offer SF for Aiyuk…let’s gauge interest….

@Skinsinparadise agree re Coleman. That’s a very solid pick. 

4 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Sounds like what happened was that was their top target unti Newton dropped and then wanted both and got them.

I think we’d have been taking Patrick Paul at #36 or #40

Newton was then too good to pass on, as was the Eagles trade offer. 

3 minutes ago, goskins10 said:

 

I think what's clear is they didn't have the same grade on Cooper as others. I know a lot of people liked him but it's clear this regime does thier due dilligence adn they didn't value him as much. It may have been a cultural fit. 

 

AP has a clear vision of the type of players he wants and while we may see Copper as fitting that profile he and the rest did not so they were not only willing to pass on him but willing to make a trade with a division rival to let them have him. Clerly they could be wrong. But I am willnig to give them the benifit of the doubt. 

 

There is a long list of man crushes from fans that turned out t have something wrong with them we did not know.  

Same. For the record I wasn’t pushing the DeJean selection. Just discussing the process in that high second round.

8 minutes ago, CommDownMan said:

 

Thankfully we went Daniels.

 

Penix / Yankoff completions would have sent this place into madness.

Yep I nearly threw that one on there too….

6 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

Were we clearly focused on Sainristil? Or was he a number of options there?

 

I don't think we can say, for certain, what they were clearly focused on or not. I think it's fair to say we did not like deJean for whatever reason to allow him to go to the Eagles, or they thought he might be available later--since the Eagles took Mitchell in the first.

Personally I think it’s very obvious we wanted Sainristil in the second round, and that influenced the trade back. And yep we can have been that sold on DeJean at the same time.

Get him another stud WR and one more upgrade on the OL. Those would be my post draft priorities, even at the cost of 2025 draft picks.

6 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

I like the fact they stuck to their board. Too often we have fallen in love with a player (Forbes, Davis) and passed on better players. I'd rather not address the immediate need by taking someone in a panic that they didn't rate highly. Will it work out? Time will tell, but they had a very good approach and I love they stuck with their evaluations.

I think you are probably right, however the passing over of DeJean at #40 because we were clearly focused on Sainristil make me slightly question that logic.

You have to assume we didn’t have a first round grade on DeJean, or had other concerns. I know we got good trade value, but imagine if we hadn’t got Sainristil at #50 once that CB run started.

So we’ve brought in Wiley and Yankoff. 

35 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

Love that he'll only be 22 at the start of the season. He could be a real good one in a year or two.

I see an instant impact player. Along side Ertz we’ve got a nice 1-2 blend now.

Basked on what Peters said on that call, Magee was clearly our primary target with this pick and we’ve been fortunate to land him having sat out the 4th round.