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On 5/11/2024 at 11:59 AM, Skinsinparadise said:

 

He didn't look that slow when watching him.  But I admit after touting him on the draft thread I backed off after seeing that time.  No way I think he'd have gone undrafted if he ran a normal time.   But watching him at Georgia, he was a fun watch -- physical at the catch point and great hands. 

JP Finlay on his show this morning with BMitch said he heard from someone over there that MRJ was gonna make the team.  We'll see...

13 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said:

 

I heard the audio of him on McAfee. It was a hedge-your-bets moment for Shefty. #1. He's had Daniels to Washington. #2. Daniels since the outset has preferred something like playing for his old coach Pierce in LV. #3. Washington has the pick to take him if they want him. So.....go to #1.

 

Compared the calm and not showing their cards presser from yesterday. This feels like Shefty is hearing this stuff for sure..... just nothing from inside the org right now.

FWIW, Keim kind of debunked that LV rumor on his last podcast.  Said people he talked to about JD's preference was Commanders or Vikings because of the coaching staff.

6 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

 

 

Wow! I would NEVER have guessed that. I always thought Raiders or Minnesota were his preference.

 

I haven't heard that podcast yet, great info to have. (Do you have a link for it,  if so would you post it? TIA)

 

If that report is accurate, then it makes his agent's unprofessional behavior Wednesday night all the more aggregious.

 

He is an absolute liability to Jayden's career. You praise publicly, and you argue privately. We should never have found out that they had an issue with the group interview format.

 

I would have fired him on the spot, if he represented my interests, and did that without consulting with me first.

 

Then again, if Jayden approved it, or worse, asked him to do it, he's not the guy I want leading my team.

 

 

 

 

Can't post the link right now but go to Keims twitter page.  It's there.  🙂

Something interesting Keim said on his recent podcast with Bram.  People he's talked to say JD prefers Washington or Minnesota because of the coaching staff.  I had not heard that he had a preference other the the rumors of him wanting to go to the Raiders.

4 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

It's Maye if people accept its a fact not an opinion that Maye is the better bet longer term as to upside.  I personally believe that myself but i don't think my opinion is fact.  But if they do see it that way, yeah i do believe they'd take Maye.

 

I don't believe whomever they take they do it with the belief that the other guy will be the better long term QB.  Based on reading about these guys, I think zero chance for example if they take Daniels it will be with them internally having the disclaimer that they also believe Maye will be the better long term QB.  No way.  And vice versa.

Sure, they would have to believe that in Maye.   

I keep going back to what Josh Harris said back in November.  IMO, I think this staff is going to be given some leway and time to build correctly.  I don't believe that includes "having" to draft a QB who is ready to start right away or has more game experience.

Philosophically, these statements make me think it's Maye.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/11/30/josh-harris-commanders-rebuild/

“We did as much as we could in six weeks,” Harris said. “But there’s a lot more work to do in the offseason. … We’re on a long journey.”

“It’s a long journey,” he added. “ … There’s no shortcuts to the top. There’s shortcuts to the middle. You want to be 8-8? I can get you there quickly — 8-8-1. You want to be great? There are no shortcuts.”

Oh boy...

15 hours ago, spjunkies said:

 

Allegedly 

Yes, EB flat out said it was "gossip".  I was joking with Sacks and Stuff

1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

I think one clue as to the direction theyre likely to go is that our GM told one of those two quarterbacks last year that he sucks.

Ha, ha Peter's essentially told him he was Sam Howell (5th rounder)

24 minutes ago, TheBigJourney said:

 

What Dan Quinn said about Sam....LOL

“And certainly talent is here also at quarterback, going against Sam through this year and honestly a little bit from last year as well, you knew how talented this player was,” Quinn said. “The arm talent, the ability to create, and that’s what quarterback play is. Off-schedule plays when you can get outside the pocket; not everything is always clean and where you can go. We’re just getting started on the evaluation phase, so when you’re putting a whole program together, there’s free agency and the draft, and you’ll look at all the things to try to make the team better. But, I’m certainly impressed by the competitor that Sam is, that jumped out to me……how tough and competitive he is.”

https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2024/02/07/washington-commanders-coach-dan-quinn-praises-qb-sam-howell-caleb-williams-2024-nfl-draft/

4 hours ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

 

 

Did Standig say if he thought they were leaning towards one player or another at two?

Nope, said he has no idea.

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

They are higher than JJ than the other local media for sure.   Speaking of which add JP Finlay to the pile of local-national reporters who don't buy the speculation that they are taking McCarthy at 2.  (Breer, Keim, Finlay, Albright, Pauline in that mix).  Will see.  But am feeling right now its a 2 horse race ala what Keim has implied thus far based on all I listened to this week.  

 

I've heard both Logan and Hoffman recently said they'd go with Maye at #2 after starting the process months back in Daniels corner.  So your comments threw me off.  I was wondering if I am losing my cognitive skills 😎 because I take pride in hearing what is actually being said versus what I want to hear.  So I relistened to their last podcast. 

 

They both said recently in different segments, they'd prefer Maye and give him edge for the #2 pick everything being equal with them both talking.  Logan referenced his take on switching from Daniels to Maye was influenced by getting the Alll 22 tape. 

 

In his last podcast, Paulsen said Maye's ceiling is "by far the highest" among the three QBs and also referenced he had the most big time throws.  But agree that same last podcast was centered on which QB is ready first.  So in that context, they were higher on Daniels and Maye.  They were all over the place on it.  But if that's your main introduction to their takes it would feel more pro Daniels and McCarthy because they were centric on pro readiness.

 

Although Hoffman said in that same podcast, he's rather have the upside guy even if it takes longer.  Hoffman seems smitten with McCarthy in particular.  So will he goe from Daniels to then Maye and now McCarthy  if so he will run the gamut.

Standig on with Sheehan Friday, said he doesn't get the JJ swirl either so add him to the list of locals scratching their heads.

7 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Keim has said now in three different segments he believes their lean is Daniels.  But also lean is the operative word and they haven't decided.

 

He's not as plugged in with this group than the past simply because this FO doesn't leak.  So not totally sure where he's getting the lean from.  In his recent podcast he said its because when he asked coaches he trust (I gather from other teams) Daniels has a distinct edge.  But I'd guess it must be a little more than that but I don't know.

 

Having said that even a lean probably doesn't matter much yet.  The most strong impressions though I get from him is this is more likely a 2 way race not a 3 way race and they are likely sticking at #2

FWIW, not to give too much credence to what the Junks say but couple weeks ago said scouts were leaning Daniels and Quinn/Peter's were not decided.  That's what they (EB/Lurch) heard.

As you said, Peter's is making the decision so no one really knows.

We'll see.

1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Right now am guessing the McCarthy stuff is BS.   I'll take it seriously when Keim takes it seriously and maybe it happens but it hasn't yet as far as I can tell.

 

The way I see this argument framed here is some say on this thread its a no brainer to run with Maye or its no brainer to run with Daniels highlighting that people's favorite attributes about said QB are the correct attributes to care about.  But it feels like apples to oranges.  Both QBs are intriguing for different reasons.

 

While I personally am in the Maye camp.  I get why some in the league doesn't see this discussion as a no brainer.  Keim seems to be leaning that they are more likely to go with Daniels because when he asked coaches around the league who they like better Daniels has a distinct edge.  But he also said that's not the Washington coaches who are more close to the vest about this.  And they are still digesting this.  So am gathering maybe in a week or two after they digest it more maybe something leaks.

 

But this team is so tight with keeping things in house we might not know until they actually pick the player

Yeah, Logan weighted 80% tape, 10% combine, 10% pro-day in the evaluation process.  He also said this group got a late start (not a bad thing) due to staff assembly.  He suggested they probably have a 'lean' by now but not decided.