BurgundyBooger

EB can go with Ron in the off-season.

6 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

Hasn't this been the Patriots slogan since BB arrived there?

37 minutes ago, philibusters said:

I think we beat the Falcons and Giants and things get quiet, but in the end I think we finish 7-10 or 8-9 and Rivera is fired at the end of the season.

 

And I absolutely am fine with not firing Ron Rivera until the end of the season.   I think that would be a bad sign if the owner did any impetuous.  Let the season play out and unfold how it will, the time to make the move will be this offseason.  If the team makes the playoffs that probably buys Rivera another year, but honestly the odds of that happening are maybe like 20%, so its not the most likely outcome.

What about EB? 

Shouldn't he be evaluated before we just decide to hand over the keys to him? Only way to do that is to dismiss Ron mid-season.

10 hours ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

GM Ron won’t make the moves to get rid of players for future assets, ie like trading Young.

I don't think it's a matter of won't, but can't. Ron is on watch. Contract or no contract, the new ownership won't allow a potential lame-duck coach to trade or dump assets that could possibly hold value for the next GM/coach, unless they approve it.

Ron is finished.

When one of the owners publicly criticizes the team’s effort (another way of saying they weren’t adequately prepared), 9 times out of 10 that means the coach is on the hottest of hot seats.

Not in favor.

Even those franchises Bill Parcells turned around seemingly overnight maintained remnants of the previous regime, though not many. 

We're talking about just players, right? All personnel, coaches, and assistants can go, for all I care.

Weren't there some who were okay with Ron being moved to personnel after this season? No, no, no. That sends the wrong message (a very Snyder-like message) to literally promote someone for failure. I don't want Ron, or any Snyder-era hires, to stay with this franchise. All Snyder hires that past 10 years were either desperate, joined just for the money, or had no place else to go. Ron falls under one of those conditions (maybe multiple) because he certainly wasn't hired as some hot commodity. 

Not one to espouse such a brutal dichotomy (Snyder hires vs. non-Snyder hires) because these are people and people can change, but that requires time and I'd rather us pull in fresh winners, uncontaminated by the previous culture and regime. 

I never understood the insistence on the deprioritization of the Oline. Without a good o-line, you can't accurately gauge the strengths/weaknesses of your QB, RB, wide receiver, nothing. If Tom Brady started his career with this o-line, we likely would have benched him thinking he was the problem and drafted a #1 bust the following year.

The problem with old school, throwback coaches is their overemphasis on toughness and conventional simplicity. They preach the purity of arithmetics while every other coach is teaching algebra. IF YOU KNOW 2+2, YOU’RE GOOD TO GO!!!

Just now, Skinsinparadise said:

 

they aren't bad.  Stacked RB room.  Stacked receiver group.  Stacked defense. 

 

Questions are the O line and QB.  

Big questions.

I'm prepared for a long season.

Like in medicine, when you go through a painful procedure/surgery, then physical rehab is next. We finally got rid of the cancer, now is the long road to full recovery. It's unreasonable to expect much more this year.

Training camp! Time to put the work in!

"We're not doing any of that. The Jets did that this year. You watch. Hard Knocks, all of it. I can see it coming. Remember when (former Commanders owner) Dan Snyder put that Dream Team together? I was at the Giants (in 2000). I was a young coach. I thought, 'How are we going to compete with them? Deion's (Sanders) there now.' That team won eight games or whatever. So, listen ... just put the work in." - Sean Payton, July 27.

https://www.nfl.com/news/sean-payton-takes-shot-at-nathaniel-hackett-era-broncos-vows-to-do-opposite-one-

I’ve seen enough of Ron’s work to know he’s not a winner. To me it’s simple: if we don’t make it to the playoffs and win a game, get rid of him. If we do all those things and EB wants to be a HC, promote EB and get rid of Ron. If we have a great season and EB wants to be a head coach but doesn’t want to take Ron’s job, wish them both luck and find someone else.

For 16 years I’ve supplanted my football joy with the excitement of fantasy football and forms of gambling since those were the only activities that made football bearable but now I feel I have my team back so win or lose I know we’re in better hands.

Dissing Art Modell. 

2 hours ago, KillBill26 said:

It is amazing how Snyder was as bad of an owner as possible: product on the field, fan experience, how he treated people, just an overall failure on all counts, and yet still gets that insane ROI.  The NFL is a guaranteed cash cow.

If you think he’ll be a happy man after all of this, you’re wrong.

Personally, I just want anyone who was hired or brought in by Snyder to go away. That might not sound fair but I don’t want any potentially infectious remnant of the old culture to be present as we transition into a new one. I’m also skeptical of some of the players on this ball club and wouldn’t mind seeing them traded off but am well aware of the complexities of that pursuit compared to jettisoning coaches and personnel staff.

In a long enough timeline people can change, even the hopeless scrubs Dan hired, but why trouble ourselves with the uncertainty of their conversion when we can hire individuals that already come equipped with a winning/positive mentality?

Promising young coaches who in the past wouldn’t touch this team with a 10-foot pole will be banging at the door for an interview. Barring a playoff appearance and victory, we’d be dumb to retain Ron’s services. There’s also Eric Bieniemy to consider.

Washington is prime destination again, a historic franchise housed in a legendary division and visible market. You don’t hand the keys of a fully restored Ferrari to a Riverboat.

Dallas forum is deleting all threads related to this, as it keeps stirring a lot of the members into speculation and outcry over their own ownership woes.

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Good. Can’t wait to see Ron and the personnel guys gone to make room for some competent football minds.

1 hour ago, BleedBNG said:

There are only 32 NFL owners, while he’ll be just another billionaire. Considering his business acumen, I anticipate he’ll lose half his fortune in 10 years and fall out of the billionaire club all together in 20.

New owner will be too busy with the transition and other business related matters of the franchise to focus on the actual football team so Ron gets a pass this season, but I hope he gets canned regardless of whatever small success he achieves in 2023. I just want every coaching or front office link to the Snyder era to be purged, and for us to start afresh. Ron won’t find another HC gig in the NFL after this stint so that tells you something. I know a plethora of candidates will emerge who’d otherwise have never thrown their hat into this ring with Snyder in charge and we need to pounce on them while they’re still available and interested.
 

Just now, WilberMarshall said:

Who is the first to go after the new owners get the keys?

 

 

Hopefully everyone from the front office down to the parking lot attendants.

11 hours ago, lavar1156 said:

MGM should be lobbying for a metro extension too.

That'd be a great idea if the intention is to transform the area to a post-apocalyptic, Walking Dead landscape

2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Agree.  The way I see it is the years of Dan being an incompetent douche basically atrophied this team as a sexy team as to it being a destination spot and having any national relevance.  

 

When Dan started his reign of terror he was incompetent from the jump but he was splashy so that covered up some of his incompetence in the context of getting some national attention.  Plus he had the aura and false image of a young owner who was poised to learn and improve.  And he billed himself that way, too.

 

But now this team is seen as sleazy, incompetent and boring.  

 

We are desperate for even a sliver of national relevance.  So I do think some national celebreites bring a little needed sex appeal to a team that has zero of it right now IMO.

 

Edit:  Said differently is there an uncooler NFL team than this one?  I've mentioned before its taken some work to keep my kids fans  of this team.  My son is a basketball fan, i mentioned the Magic Johnson name and even though its before his time, he knows the name and thinks the association is cool.

The beauty of this sport is that winning resuscitates image. The Bengals, the Chiefs, the Jaguars, the Bucs all became exciting teams to watch recently despite their relatively muted heritage in comparison to that of the NFC East teams. If we string together some winning seasons, that, coupled with the franchise’s fossilized and preserved legacy, would relaunch the organization to its original glory.